I waiting for the new chip too. No new chip no XBOX 360.

They know what is causing 90% of the failures, and one assumes that it will be fixed in manufacturing at some point, if not already.

yep, hardware failure. ;)

I'm planning to hold out until I can be guaranteed that I get a 360 with 65nm CPU/GPU with an HDMI port. I don't really care when it happens, but I'll get one when it does.

I second that. Can someone please add a question mark to the topic title?

I have four immediate friends that own 360s, so I can understand the urging of forum members to jump aboard the 360 wagon. The system is hella fun and is by far the best next-gen system available from a games standpoint.

However, two of those 360s have gone triple-red in the past year. I realize some might say that this is anectodal evidence (and it is), but there aren't isolated reports of consoles failing. The retailer-estimated failure rate is as high as 33%!*

I cannot justify spending that kind of money ($500 CDN) for an electronic item with that kind of failure rate, and I do not understand how anyone else can either. I can accept that 'lemons' will happen in any product and that Microsoft now extending the warranty a second time is an attempt to make good on consumer purchases, but it's just too much for me to want to lay out that kind of money for anything with that high a failure rate.

I'm hoping, as many are, that the 65nm process may lower the lemon rate. I'm hoping that MS gets a handle on whatever is causing the hardware failures. I keep hoping because I won't be a 360 owner until then.

And I really want to be a 360 owner. :)

*Source=http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...1/article.html

what happened to the elite coming in white also?

What's nice is that if you swap it out for another one during the warranty period, you get the newer model, lower price (if there is one), any other promotion at the time, and still keep your replacement warranty active.
I just returned my faulty HD-DVD drive and got a new one with two free HD-DVDs for no additional money and my warranty is still active.

I believe the rumor is this will be the new premium sku this Fall. I think they'll keep the Core sku, since they probably make a ton of money off of accessory items.

who do you have the warranty with? at Best Buy?

Yes, Best Buy.

I wonder if the fix occurred before the Elites started shipping. Probably wishful thinking though.

My friend got the BB warranty too... his X360 got the RROD, but he can't get a new one from BB, since the BB's warranty is the EXTENDED warranty and his X360 died within the MS's warranty period, so he has to sent it to MS to get it fixed.

*sigh*, personally, i can't handle this kind of stress.... sending the thing in for repair and have your live account put on hold etc....

No longer a rumor Falcon

I'll get one.

I'm in.

Details for those at work?

Not really.

Ah, thanks anyway. :)

The code name thing sounds like good news to me. We first heard the "Zephyr" code name back in January, and it was just a couple, three months later that the Elite hit the shelves. So maybe/hopefully this could mean the new chips will be out in the fall. . .

Yippee kay yay, Mister Falcon!

Ok, done. And added "When?"

I really wish that falcon had built in wifi and the hd-dvd drive installed along with an hdmi that could pass truehd.

One can only wish.

dude, join the praying club... i really really really want that, even at $650!

The Falcon is just an improved, cooler running computer chip that will replace the existing chip. It will not be another new SKU. Microsoft is not crazy enough to have four SKUs on the market (or at least I hope they are not that crazy).