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Old 05-10-06 | 12:09 PM
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At the 2006 E3 trade show, Nintendo announced that it would be publishing a game entitled Elite Beat Agents, which will be released in the US sometime during the 4th quarter of 2006. Elite Beat Agents appears to use the exact same game engine as Ouendan, but it is an entirely new game with completely different characters, situations, and music.
Cool news for those that already imported Ouendan.
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Old 05-10-06 | 05:29 PM
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Nintendo Gal has setup some compilation trailers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPLpOW6mu9E
Big Brain Academy
Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol
Children of Mana
Clubhouse Games
Custom Robo Arena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6kD_0IISM
DK: King of Swing DS
DS Air
Elite Beat Agents
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Kirby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc20LHzvfdo
Magical Vacation (working title)
Magnetica
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis
Mario Hoops 3-on-3
New Super Mario Bros.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJGiqpwKzg
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team
Pokémon Ranger
Star Fox DS
Sudoku Gridmaster
Yoshi's Island 2
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is starfox ds gonna be a port? looks familiar. either way, i'm getting it
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Old 05-10-06 | 08:44 PM
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I haven't seen a single system pump out so many high quality games since the SNES. Nintendo is on a roll with the DS, and I'm eating it up. I'll end up spending more on DS games this year than I will on the PS3 console.
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Nice Castlevania video.

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/774/774649/vids_1.html

Looks sweet with some new movies and the graphics look much better than previous DS installment.
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I haven't seen a single system pump out so many high quality games since the SNES.
It is unbelievable.

Super Princess Peach
New Super Mario Bros
Yoshi's Island 2
Castlevania
Zelda: Phantom Hour Glass
Star Fox
Kirby

And that's just this year! It's like a dream for me, with all my favorite games being revived at a time when I was near ready to give up gaming as I've just gradually lost more and more interest since the move to 3D.
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Old 05-11-06 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
It is unbelievable.

Super Princess Peach
New Super Mario Bros
Yoshi's Island 2
Castlevania
Zelda: Phantom Hour Glass
Star Fox
Kirby

And that's just this year! It's like a dream for me, with all my favorite games being revived at a time when I was near ready to give up gaming as I've just gradually lost more and more interest since the move to 3D.
And that's not including Metroid Prime Hunters, Lost Magic, Contact, Final Fantasy III, Harvest Moon DS, Ouendan (or whatever they're going to call it here), etc. I know you weren't crazy on Metroid, but I love it, and I think we're in agreement in principle, even if we argue on different titles.

I play my DS now more than any of my consoles, with the exception of the 360 for Oblivion.
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Old 05-11-06 | 03:48 AM
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Yoshi's Island 2 has the same rough, hand drawn feel as the original SNES version. I absoloutely loved the original
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Old 05-11-06 | 08:35 AM
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The DS is a pretty powerful platform.

It's pretty sad when it literally kicks the ass out of it's current console. Just in one year, the DS has had more to do than the entire Gamecube generation. I would agree that DS is the best Nintendo system since the SNES era.

Not that I have any problems with it. Keep em' coming.
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Man, I think I broke my DS's microphone.

I got annoyed at the Bowser battle the 2nd go around in Peach and slammed the DS down in disgust once (not all that hard though) and then when I got through the rest of the game and went to finish the rest of the minigames the mic isn't work right on the Toad Jump game anymore and the last 2 stages I have of that are all I have left to do.

Oh well, guess if I can't get it working it gives me an excuse to upgrade to the Lite.
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Old 05-11-06 | 12:28 PM
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Seriously, Ouedan! is so freaking bad-ass. I don't know what it is, in reality it should be just another rhythm game but the stylus play seems to make it a lot more enjoyable than just button pushing. I hope the American version conveys the same level of energy and wackiness, though I FULLY understand why it's getting a complete face-life over here (which is better for me because I can have both versions, wahaha).

One level has you going against a public official attacking people with Afro Spray.
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Old 05-11-06 | 05:57 PM
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This looks interesting, fans of point & click adventure games take note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6FWRNvSXU
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
This looks interesting, fans of point & click adventure games take note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6FWRNvSXU
Hotel Dusk Room 215.

That looks interesting. Looks like you hold the DS sideways ala Brain Age for that. More like a book. I'll be keeping my eye on that one. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 05-11-06 | 06:29 PM
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I haven't heard many people mention it, but I'm really looking forward to Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis. The first one was pretty sweet.
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Old 05-11-06 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
This looks interesting, fans of point & click adventure games take note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6FWRNvSXU
This one is number 2 on my most wanted list behind Phoenix Wright. Its developed by Cing the same developer of Trace Memory. That game was good, but way too short. If they can get the play time on this one over 10 hours I will be thrilled to buy it.
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I realize I'm probably the only person that loved Boktai, but Kojima has just released details that the Boktai GBA cart can be used as a sun sensor with the new Lunar Knights for the DS.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/708/708259p1.html

Yes, I'm stoked.
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Old 05-12-06 | 06:45 AM
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This one is number 2 on my most wanted list behind Phoenix Wright. Its developed by Cing the same developer of Trace Memory. That game was good, but way too short. If they can get the play time on this one over 10 hours I will be thrilled to buy it.
Damn, Wish Room is currently only slated for Japan release. I really hope that changes or the game has an English option. It looks amazing and I love that it's played with the DS held like a book.
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Old 05-12-06 | 08:28 AM
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I haven't heard many people mention it, but I'm really looking forward to Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis. The first one was pretty sweet.
I'm with you, I just didn't mention it because I'm still riding the euphoria of Yoshi's Island 2.
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Old 05-12-06 | 08:54 AM
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I realize I'm probably the only person that loved Boktai, but Kojima has just released details that the Boktai GBA cart can be used as a sun sensor with the new Lunar Knights for the DS.
I'm interested in it, I saw the first one for $10.. should I check it out?
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Old 05-12-06 | 09:04 AM
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I'm interested in it, I saw the first one for $10.. should I check it out?
For $10 I think its well worth it. The using the sun part bothers some people, but I think its a great little action game and it mixes in puzzles and a little stealth very well.
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Old 05-12-06 | 08:17 PM
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Yet another of the point and click genre on the DS. Don't know if this one is getting a US release, but Atlus is involved so there is a great chance it will. Touch Detective is kind of a bland name though.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/708/708468p1.html
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I don't have a DS and never really had any interest in getting one til E3 rolled around.

I just wanted to say that Hotel Dusk Room 215 trailer looked very interesting. Very noirish. Though curious to know what the gameplay is like.

I've never heard the term "point & click" games before. Can someone describe this genre for me please?
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E3 thoughts

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I just got back from E3, so I thought I'd post some thoughts. I'm also happy to try to answer some questions, but I doubt my knowledge of what I saw will be in depth enough to satisfy.

Overall, as many of you have pointed out, the DS's showing at E3 was very impressive. I took a look at most of the games, and played a couple. The DS is kicking major butt and making the PSP look even weaker than it really is. The PSP had a very poor showing, in my opinion.

Anyway, I played New Super Mario again. I played it at GDC and enjoyed it, this time I played it again to get the free DS Lite case they were giving away. This one is a no brainer. Good game, controls are really tight. Its a little bizarre to see Mario animating so smoothly in a sidescroller. I got butterflies when I jumped onto the flagpole at the end of the level.

I tried out Zelda, and to be quite honest with you I'm really concerned. It looks amazing, its full 3D. When you talk to a character it zooms in and shows the two of you conversing from a side angle. The graphics are really smooth and sharp. But I'm concerned about the game play. Its controlled entirely with the stylus, from what I could tell, and this really lamed out the combat. I'm nearly CERTAIN that there were options I was missing, but all I could do in the demo was tap guys with the stylus and link would run up and swing his sword. Gone was the strategy of using your shield to block and timing your sword swing accordingly. Again, I haven't read up on this, and I really dont think Nintendo would screw it up, but the fighting that I saw really has me concerned.

I also tried StarFox DS. This is NOT a port of the old game, though it is from the original developer interestingly enough. Not only does it have the space flight flying / shooting action from the original, but it also has a tactical map mode as well. In fact, when I played it, I managed to lose the game in the map mode, which takes place between each flying mission. I'm not really sure what happened but it was clear that it was an important part of the game. The action portion controls quite nicely with the stylus. You guide your ship with the stylus and shoot with either of the trigger buttons. Very comfortable.

I also took part in contests involving both brain age games and won them both. They gave out these weird notebooks that are supposed to emphasize their line of games that are easily pick up and playable.

I saw the Beat Brothers game or whatever its called now. I have the import version and can tell you that this version is VERY similar gameplay wise but does seem to be a bit different story wise as Pixy revealed up above. Will buy this one regardless.

Atlus had both Contact and Touch Detective at their booth, so yes Touch Detective is coming to the US. I didn't really play either one, since they were a bit involved and would have required more time than I could devote. Atlus also showed a video for Trauma Center 2, it took me a while to realize though that its for the Wii, not the DS.

Hmmm what else. Phoenix Wright 2 was not playable, only shown in video form. It is coming out for celphones too, but I'm not sure if its the same game we already have or not, but keep an eye out if you are interested.

Didn't get to see Cooking Mama, never made it to Majescos booth, not sure if they had one to be honest.

Thats all I can think of off the top. But let me just say that I was more excited about the DS than any other system. That exludes the Wii though, since I never was able to devote the 4 hours to waiting in line, so I never saw it.

Two of my friends did and said it was overall really cool. Many people seemed to think the 'wand' was to sensitive, but I'm sure its something you get used to.

Ok, I'll shut up now.

Other than that, I took looks at all the other DS games being played but didn't try them myself.
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Old 05-13-06 | 06:02 AM
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I've never heard the term "point & click" games before. Can someone describe this genre for me please?
This genre of adventure type games dominated PC gaming at one time. My history is going to be quick and sketchy so anyone else that wants to clarify can. Basically, it started with text adventures like Zork. You would read the script and then type in commands to advance the story. They eventually added graphics and games like Leisure Suit Larry were born. Basically Phoenix Wright on the DS is a hybrid of the text and point and click adventure. When graphics became a more important part of PC games the text adventure evolved into the point and click Adventure. Games like Myst and Grim Fandango. This grand story or mystery that has to be solved with a mouse control. You move from area to area and move the mouse around and click to solve puzzles, advance the story, look for clues, etc.
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Old 05-13-06 | 09:11 AM
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Is the US DS Lite up for pre-order anywhere? Amazon don't have it (but then they dont ship video games internationally anyway)
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