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fumanstan 10-25-05 09:35 AM

Interesting if that's true, especially regarding a possible global launch.

gimmepilotwings 10-25-05 09:58 AM

The $200 launch price is what has me. If it is at $200 or below, I will buy it launch date.

jeffdsmith 10-25-05 10:03 AM

Nintendo will and would not include a HD. If anything, they might increase the onboard flash. HD's are to troublesome for the N.

gimmepilotwings 10-25-05 11:40 AM

^^^ curious if HD has any bearing on the new controller at all? If the controller would react differently...

pinata242 10-25-05 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings
^^^ curious if HD has any bearing on the new controller at all? If the controller would react differently...

Since the sensors are external to the display, I can't imagine it would make any difference at all. No different than different size displays would have. This is assuming the sensors simply triangulate position and movement.

jeffdsmith 10-25-05 12:52 PM

oops, I was thinking HD = Hard Drive, I realize now he meant High Definition.

Michael Corvin 10-25-05 02:28 PM

Yep.

HD = Hi-Def
HDD = Hard Drive

So if it doesn't support HD, will those that play games in any other mode (stretched, zoomed, etc) will that affect the play control? If the sensors expect a pixel in a certain area and don't find it(because it is stretched to a different area of the screen, etc), will it throw it off?

sdcrym 10-25-05 02:42 PM

Well technically HDD stands for hard disk drive :p ;)

gimmepilotwings 10-25-05 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Yep.

HD = Hi-Def
HDD = Hard Drive

So if it doesn't support HD, will those that play games in any other mode (stretched, zoomed, etc) will that affect the play control? If the sensors expect a pixel in a certain area and don't find it(because it is stretched to a different area of the screen, etc), will it throw it off?

This is the kind of questioning that I was referring to.

I just dont see the Revolution supporting anything about 480p, if anything at all.

Josh H 10-25-05 03:00 PM

I wouldn't think any of that would affect the control since the sensor is a seperate unit that sits on or near the tv. It's not like a light gun that is kind of taking a picture of the screen or whatever.

jediwicz 10-25-05 09:19 PM

gonintendo.com now has *rumored* first screenshots of a Revolution game. The photos look incredible and are from a Test Drive game that was taken from a Brazilian website. Nothing is official but if the photos are accurate then the Revolution may be comparable to the 360 (or the photos are for a 360 game).

jeffdsmith 10-25-05 11:29 PM

It's just a mistake. The exact same screen shots are at IGN under the 360 section for the game.

ChrisKnudsen 10-26-05 12:24 AM

According to the gonintendo forums, a Canadian survey asked if they thought the price tag of 189.99 dollars was reasonable enough for the system. If that comes true, then the system would be like $150 American.

pinata242 10-26-05 09:20 AM

From Nintendojo

In addition in his interview, Iwata stated that he hopes the next generation console will sell more units than the Gamecube, that former Nintendo President Hiroshi Yamauchi was not involved with the creation of the Revolution controller, and that the controller can be used with any type of monitor, including digital projectors.
Of course, that doesn't confirm it will work in an HD mode since they don't (currently) intended to support HD.

Michael Corvin 10-26-05 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by pinata242
Of course, that doesn't confirm it will work in an HD mode since they don't (currently) intended to support HD.

But with tons of complaints 9 months prior to launch and possible loss of sales because of it, I'm betting they are seriously reconsidering it.

They can go their own route and do whatever they want, but something as simple as HD that the consumers demand shouldn't just be blown off. Especially if they intend to sell more units than the GCN did.

orangecrush 10-26-05 10:34 AM

If they launch at $150, I don't think the lack of HD support will affect there sales.

pinata242 10-26-05 10:34 AM

Gonintendo has posted an interview with Jim Merrick, Head of NOE's Marketing. Link

It sure sounds like HD is not being considered. Although I sure hope he is WAY overestimating on that price guess and if so, he may be wrong on the HD thing as well.

Michael Corvin 10-26-05 11:17 AM

$484?

If their goal is to take first by getting new people into gaming, a $500 system is not the way to do it. :lol:

Can someone please explain how outputting video to 16x9 would significantly raise the cost of the system?

GoVegan 10-26-05 11:40 AM

Ye-ouch. He HOPES that not having HD will help keep the price below $500? I was just starting to believe the $150-200 figures being tossed about. I'd definitely be in at launch for $150, but anything higher than that and it's going to have to wait a bit. $200 I'd still consider, but I prefer to spend most of my gaming budget on actual games. At $500 I'd have to choose between a new system or 16 games for my DS.

jeffdsmith 10-26-05 12:23 PM

The system will not cost more then $300, Nintendo has said this many times over. I suspect a $250 price will be likely. Everyone wants the revolution to be more powerful, support HD, etc. while still costing half of the 360 cost. ($200) It doesn't work like that.

GoVegan 10-26-05 01:33 PM

Then why do their spokespeople keep saying such crazy things? They're scaring me. Those people need a script. (Or I just need to stop reading about the Revolution until all decisions have been made and the specs are finalized.)

My preference is for them to make two version of the system, both able to play the same games - one lower cost system and one HD system (or accomplish the same thing with an add-on), but I realize that's extremely unrealistic.

Michael Corvin 10-26-05 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
Then why do their spokespeople keep saying such crazy things? They're scaring me. Those people need a script.

I agree.

Dash 10-26-05 02:23 PM

i think a $250 price tag sounds reasonable

jeffdsmith 10-26-05 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
Then why do their spokespeople keep saying such crazy things? They're scaring me. Those people need a script. (Or I just need to stop reading about the Revolution until all decisions have been made and the specs are finalized.)

I understand your concern. However, in this case it could have easily been a translation error.

Ralph Wiggum 10-26-05 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by GoVegan
Then why do their spokespeople keep saying such crazy things? They're scaring me. Those people need a script. (Or I just need to stop reading about the Revolution until all decisions have been made and the specs are finalized.)

My preference is for them to make two version of the system, both able to play the same games - one lower cost system and one HD system (or accomplish the same thing with an add-on), but I realize that's extremely unrealistic.

It's just a big game of chicken between them and Sony. Oversell your product out of one side of your mouth, undersell it out of the other, and blow everyone away with the amazing final price. :rolleyes:

I'd love to see Nintendo deviate from course a bit and launch at $250 - with a pair of controllers and Mario Revolution packed in. Maybe a free classic download, too.


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