sdcrym

heh, I thought the same thing. It's not the first time that's happened either.

tor_greg

Rule #1 of Referencing: Never reference something that no one knows anything about.

The Bus

(See the "bloom" / super shiny part inside the circles).

SteelgearX

If you mean the Carlos Mencia reference, I knew about it the second I saw it. So, yeah, go watch some comedy central... get a sense of humor.

Breakfast with Girls

Best ad ever:



That guy's face cracks me up. He's so into it.

SteelgearX

Yeah, he's all dee dee deeee.

MasterofDVD

In some cases I can accept the Light Bloom. It's a cute little thing that everyone uses but only a handful of games really should.

Burnout is clearly a game where it bugs me the most. They spend all that time making intentional glare and as one guy who used to work for me said about Burnout 3...."the crash effect still looks like someone throwing straw out the window". He had a point with Burnout 3 and sadly it's still true in the 360 version.



Is this Gears Of War?

If it is then let me say every picture of that game I've see has been dark. Ever video clip of that game I've watched has been dark. Then suddenly I see a glow in the dark fountain in the game and it's supposed to look realistic?

If it isn't GOW then I stand by my argument that it's still pointless and annoying.

Game985

I don't have much problems with the lighting. But I'm so glad that grass or the ground in games looks much better for the next generation. This current generation's grass or ground looks ugly.

Groucho

On the PC version of Oblivion, I found that Bloom+Anti-Aliasing looked better than HDR.

kakihara1

that's awesome

The Bus

Master: Those are some Unreal engine screenshots.

I understand the necessity to do it to show what the engine is capable of, but they have it on at unrealistic levels in every shot.

Worse yet, Unreal Tournament 2007 PS3 videos show... colored light bloom.

The whole Unreal series has always been pretty bad at this. The original Unreal was the first game with colored lighting, and it used it a lot, for no reason. When I made my first map for it, it was cool to have a slime area that was all green, etc. but by my second map I had toned it down a hell of a lot.

For example, here is a street:


Here is that same street, rendered in Oblivion-vision:

kakihara1

^^^Hmm is that the town just to the west of Kvatch??

karnblack

Dude that screenshot looks almost as real as the scene that inspired it.

The only thing unrealistisc about the bloom in Burnout 3 is that I would actually be wearing sunglasses and would use the sun visor if I was really in those situations. If these options aren't available in the game (which they aren't) then developers shouldn't use bloom in instances where it would hinder the player.

Save Ferris

the trailers I watched for oblivion were much worse than the final result on my xbox thankfully. I agree, though--the fuzzy white glow on brighter objects look really bad.

fmian

It would be nice if this kind of effect incorporated some kind of conditioning. Say for example you're in a dark tunnel, then walk through a doorway out where there is lots of light. At first everything is superbright, but gradually things tone down as your eyes adjust to the light. And vice versa too. When you go into a dark room everything is pitch black but slowly you can start to make out things. I'm sure I read somewhere that HDR did this. Or maybe I got it mixed up with some photography guide?

The Bus

The games DO do this, and it's neat. It's done in GRAW. For example, block the sun by going behind a building, and suddenly the building is very dark, because of the high contrast between the bright sky and the structure.

In Need for Speed Most Wanted, exit a tunnel and the outside is extremely bright for a few seconds.

I think in NFS:MW it is probably done best. The "art direction" in that game is great, too bad the framerate isn't up to snuff.

fmian

Doesn't do it in Oblivion for the 360.

The Bus

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Supermallet

Cute. And I've still never seen an episode of Carlos Mencia's show on Comedy Central.

chuckd21

Whoa, bump outta nowhere.

Liver&Onions

I think he prefers to be called Orlando still.

RocShemp

Sad but true.