Next Gen bandwagon jumping??
 

I already have a GC/Xbox and a PS2. PS2 gets more usage then the rest (i have a DC, Saturn and more in the closet not being used). I have a 42" Plasma monitor and i use it for my PC and for gaming (Street Fighter 2 - Championship Edition = the bomb on the plasma).

Im 100% ready to jump into the next gen bandwagon, and since the PS3 isnt out yet im really contemplating a xbox 360. I walked into best buy last week and they had them in stock, i was about to buy one but i held back. I looked at all the games available for it and they all IMHO sucked. I was honestly ready to pick one up, but i find myself just waiting for a ps3 more and more, since all my fav games come out on sony consoles vs any other system. Also, since both will have a hard drive this time around, it makes the choice a lot easier to wait.

I really do want to get a 360 tho, but i just dont have a compelling reason to, as ive played the majority of the games out so far and honestly, ive been pretty disapointed so far. It all comes down to me wanting to jump on the bandwagon but my senses are stopping me and telling me to wait. On one hand, im disapointed im not enjoying HD gaming already. On the other, im excited for my other prospects, the ps3 and rev. Which brings me to my ultimate question.

The more i think about the Rev Virtual Console, the more excited i am. However, what will put it over the edge for me and make it truely amazing, is if they'll be setting up a system where you will be able to go online with someone else, and play a NES/Snes game 2-players over the net. For example, say my buddy in detroit logs in and starts up a game of contra and i jump in via california, and we play 2-player NES contra till the finish.

Do you think this is a possobility? If it is, i will have a rev at launch no matter what it takes, the ps3 im not in any major hurry to get even when it does come out, as i know its the system for me and ill be patient enough for all the dust to settle and jump in when the time is right (i got a xbox early and got a ps2 some time later, i regret it lol). Anyhow, sorry for the long rant, i just think about this next gen transition so much in between playing Wild Arms 4, Resident Evil 4 and waiting for KH2 to be released!

It's possible, but not very likely. Nintendo hasn't put all their cards on the table yet, but I just don't see this happening.

Getting a launch system is always frustrating because its very rare that you find much worth playing the first 6-9 months the system is out. I'm waiting it out until all three have their cards on the table and we see exactly what we will be getting. Revolution is high on my list mainly because it seems like it will be a rather low cost investment with some fairly unique gameplay possibilities, however, E3 will help fill in more about that. I'm just not very excited right now by the prospects of $400 consoles and $60 games and that is really what the Xbox360 and PS3 will be all about for the next couple of years.

I, on the other hand, am convinced that this is one of the bombs Nintendo intends to drop about the Revolution. :D Downloads are good, but online play will sell people on the Revolution all by itself.

As much as I love gadgets/toys, console launches are far and away the worst time to buy them:

1. Faulty hardware
2. Sub-par software
3. Price drop all but guaranteed within 12 months

I truely hope it is one of the big surprises. It would truely seperate it from the pack and show that they're about people playing games together imo. Very excited.

I agree with you on the 360 line up and that's the biggest reason I didn't get one.....but I probably will eventually. There are some big games coming out for the 360 in the coming months -- Oblivion being one and the next Halo game.

My concerns for the 360 are the same I had for the first Xbox -- Games! About the only 2 games I enjoyed on the original Xbox were KoToR and Jade Empire, aside from that the only reason I still have my Xbox is for emulation purposes. Now, my choice of gaming is primarily RPG's so, imo, the Xbox was not a good RPG console. I think the lack of support from Japan is a big factor. With the 360's dismal launch in Japan, yet again, I'm wondering if the 360 will fair any better. I hope it will.

With Nintendo & Sony I know I'll have a larger selection of games to choose from because they do have that support and I'll more apt to buy their console at launch than I would one from Microsoft. KotOR is what got me to finally buy an Xbox and Blue Dragon, the new RPG from Final Fantasy creator Hironobu Sakaguchi, might be what gets me to finally purchase a 360.

If I were you I would base my decision on the games before the hardware. If there's games on the 360 you want to play then get one, otherwise I would wait.

If you want something that will make your plasma look amazing, get a PS3. Sony has announced 30 titles at launch, plus it will play all your PS1 and PS2 games, so you should have no problems finding games to play.

360 is awesome 'nuff said.

I'm most excited about the Revolution, just thinking about playing all the old nes,snes and n64 games again make me giddy like a lil school girl. I've been more of an Xbox fanboy the last few years but when the Revolution comes out, it will be mine, oh yes...it will be mine.. :drool:

Do you have any links to actual screenshots, demos, trailers, of PS3 titles?

Yeah, the Xbox 360 lineup isn't going to change any time soon. If you don't like what you see now I can't recommend anything but to wait. To be honest, I don't think the first year of the PS3 will be MUCH different but at the very least there should be a few games outside of the very narrow Xbox 360 target market.

I wonder if the weaker lineups in video games is similar to when dvd launched. We didn't get Star Wars or Jaws or any other big hits until after enough people had dvd players. Same thing will happen for HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray.

I would've been more inclined to go for the Xbox 360 if they had more exclusives. Most of the games right now are either available on the Xbox/PS2/Gamecube, or on PC.

I LOVE my 360, even if I've had a few problems. MS fixed the one problem, but another arose. I know it will be solved, and they will compensate me for my problems. I still like my 360. As for the launch lineup, I enjoyed it. Condemned is GREAT, Call of Duty, PDZ, the 2K6 sports games...fun stuff.

How can you tell that from looking at a DVD case exactly? That would be a cool trick to learn. ;)

It all depends on what type of games you like. In my opinion no 360 owner should go without at least playing COD2, Condemned & Kameo. They are the only 3 MUST OWN titles, IMO. Three 4 star games from three different genres.

Burnout is just around the bend as well as Top Spin 2 & Fight Night 3 in the next couple of months. All of which look amazing.

You also can factor in the arcade games because some of them are more addicting than 360 games themselves.

I'm going to jump in with another vote for the 360 kicking ass. COD2 / Condemned / PDZ are tremendous games, and next week we get Fight Night Round 3 and College Hoops 2k6. I haven't even gotten around to opening a couple of the others I have, but I am more than satisfied with my purchase.

Yeah, the 360 lineup has done nothing for me so far as there are few exclusives and the exclusives they do have are mainly FPS games. Only Kameo has me interested at all.

But that's fairly typical at launch, even with Nintendo systems I find little I want to play and end up buying a couple of games at $50 that I don't really like much just to have something to play on my shiny new console.

I may still get a revolution at launch IF, they have the virtual console up and running by then. I'm more excited about having instant access to all the classic games than I am playing anything new next gen.

Another vote for the 360. Man COD2 in 60" HD and DD5.1 is the most immersive experience I've ever had playing a video game. It's the only one where I immediately played it again on the harder level upon completion, totally ignoring the other four new games I had waiting. Now I'm totally enjoying Need For Speed: MW and Dead or Alive 4, not to mention those kick-ass XBOX Live arcade games like Marble Madness and Geometry Wars. Looking forward to finally opening up Perfect Dark Zero as well.

I completely agree here. I at first was seriously wondering why I dropped $500 for a launch system, but once I picked up Condemned I realized why. I've got Kameo sitting on the shelf to play one I finish Condemned (1 more level) and Gun.

And yes, the arcade has actually blown me away with the quality of titles in there. I do think I play Hexic and Zuma more than I play PGR3 (which is also a good title).

Another thing I like about the 360 and before with the XBOX was/is the improved Live setup. Microsoft has a great setup for online play and with the 360, there are plenty of newer features from the old Live. The dashboard is very well laid out, the marketplace was a great idea, and of course the gaming. I'm not sure Sony or Nintendo will be able to match their online setup. But I could be wrong...

I doubt you are wrong. MS was willing to lose money last gen to get Live up and running. They have nearly perfected it now, so it will be damn near impossible for Nintendo or Sony to match it.

I don't buy the selection gripes. I think the 360 has had one of the better launches when it comes to choices. They cover just about every genre. There is something for everyone. Only a handful weren't available at launch and with the shortages persisting buying in now or in a month only gives you more options than those people on launch day.

FPS - COD2, PDZ, Gun, Quake

Adventure - Kameo, King Kong

Every sport is available (NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, Snowboarding, Skateboarding, Soccer, Golf) Tennis & Boxing soon

Racing - PGR3, NFS:MW, Ridge Racer, Full Auto

Fighting - DOA4

Survival/Horror - Condemned

Puzzle - handful of Live Arcade games

RPG - Elder Scrolls IV in 4 weeks.

Sure there is only a couple of options in each genre, but it is still an impressive showing for 2-3 months into the systems life. Compare that to other launches.

I agree, but what baseball game is available for the 360?

Whoops. MLB2k6 comes out early april.

ah, ok... thanks. I was wondering if I had missed this release. :lol:

Bad enough that THE GODFATHER and DEAD RISING have been postponed. :(

The 360 has more good games than any other console launch ever, even within the initial 90-day window. However, most of those games are available on other platforms or on the PC, as Groucho stated.

It does not, however, have a great game, like the launches of Xbox (Halo), SNES (SMW), N64 (SM64), etc.

If you buy a 360, PGR3, DOA4, COD2, Condemned, and the many arcade games should keep you entertained, if you are warm-blooded. And when you're done with those, there's always NFS:MW, Amped 3, King Kong, and Kameo, which are enjoyable.

To clarify, I think it has a great lineup for most people, it just doesn't fit my narrow tastes as I really only like platformers, puzzle games, zelda type action rpgs, japanese rpgs, and the occasional quirky japanese game like Feel the Magic or WarioWare.

The 360 is missing that one killer must have game (like Halo, Mario 64 etc.) that you see at most launches though.

I don't recall the PS1 having a killer ap at launch. I remember getting Tekken and a few other games, but there was no "must have" title....and the PS1 did pretty OK.

Or have I forgotten?

If you are talking about system sellers it could be debated since COD2 is close to the 1:1 game to system ratio. Since it is available elsewhere though, it can be dismissed.

Condemned is a GREAT game with franchise written all over it if it would sell more copies.

But marquee character selling games? No. That it is lacking, but there are plenty of choices.

Both the PS1 and PS2 had pretty crappy launch lineups and neither had that killer game. Gran Turismo 3 was the first big game for the PS2. You could probably argue that Final Fantasy VII was the big one for the PS1 (that's what got me to buy one) but I"m sure there were some big games before it that I'm forgetting (probably Resident Evil and others).

Sorry, i thought people would assume that i have already played the games, which i have. Ive tried out 80% of the launch titles already (i havent played condemened tho, but first person titles arent my bag anyhow). That is how i made my assessment. I did not look at a box cover and say it sux, i am not a 14 year old =)

I agree with a lot of what has been said so far, the titles arent exclusives, they're 90% available on current gen consoles and PC's, and they're mostly sports/fps games (genre's that do not intrest me personally). Kameo felt really choppy to me, and the controls left a LOT to be desired. After playing games like God Of War, i expect controls to be at that level, aka, flawless. Im still waiting for that killer app thats going to force me into a 360, but i just havent seen anything out yet or been announced... Fight Night 3 demo did look amazing tho, i will say that.

I think that both RE and Tomb Raider were before FF7...but neither was that close to launch.

Fighting games were still all the rage then, and I think Namco really carried the PS1 early on with Tekken and Ridge Racer.

That's not a valid measure anyway, as people buying a console are going to buy at least one game and it's the best of the lot in most peoples opinion.

That doesn't mean people are going to the store to buy a 360 because they want to play COD2, which is what a system seller game entails.

People bought X-box's because they wanted to play Halo, people are buying 360's for a variety of reasons, but I've not heard many say they bought it soley to play COD2 like they did with Halo, Mario 64 etc. Especially since it can be played on PC as well and isn't exclusive.

I distinctly remember renting a PS1 with Battle Arena Toshinden and thinking that it was the shit. That would have been in Nov/Dec 95, but I don't know how close to launch that was.

I think it was a launch title. And that was a big factor. The N64 wasn't out yet, so these first gen 3D games wowed people who were playing the SNES and Genesis at the time it came out.

Though the games look like ass today.

I thought they looked like ass back then too.

I was playing SNES/Genesis and they depressed me, not wowed.

Me too. :(

But obviously the wowed the casual gamers, much to my chagrin.

I think I'm offended! ;)

I think the ace up the sleeve for Sony is the Final Fantasy 7 Remake. They're just playing coy and not divulging anything which is obvious. If they can bring that out game with the level of detail that they had shown at E3, I am sold on PS3. Same for Killzone. I think if Killzone comes out with those graphics that game will instantly push the PS3 to the front. It'll definitely be a system seller.

XBOX 360 doesn't have anything that's compelling enough for me to buy yet. COD2 is out, but I can play that on my PC. Same for Condemned which is gonna come out soon. I do like Blazing Angels ever since I saw it on Attack of the Show , but really nothing yet that makes me go out and want to buy the system.

Looks like Nintendo was smart and played the Zelda card for Revolution which makes perfect sense. I don't know why they scheduled it for a spring release and piss off people when they knew they had no intention of releasing it but hey that's Nintendo for you. Virtual Console doesn't have me too excited because I would like to see some new games and genres created but since the public ain't buyin it's gonna be hard for any of the console makers to do this. I liked the ideas of the attorney game and the surgery game that Nintendo came up very innovative and cool.


Here are my picks for how this generation's console war will play out with Sony and Nintendo fighting for the top spot.

1. PS3
2. Nintendo
3. XBOX 360

True.

There was no Tekken for PS1. The noteworthy PS1 games were Ridge Racer, Twisted Metal, and Battle Arena Toshinden. Twisted Metal was a good game/series, but it doesn't have the mass appeal of Mario Kart/PGR/Grand Turismo.