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Old 07-19-06 | 07:34 AM
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Also, Amazon.co.jp customers seem more interested in the PS3 than the Wii:
Based soley on Final Fantasy XIII, no doubt.
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Old 07-19-06 | 09:33 AM
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Based soley on Final Fantasy XIII, no doubt.
Id say, based on actually going to a next gen system vs a new controller and nearly re-badged hardware (in regards to all Wii games at E3 being run on gamecubes). Whenever i show anyone Fight Night 3 on my plasma, they're blown away and know that its a next gen game. Wii games will just be another normal looking game.
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Id say, based on actually going to a next gen system vs a new controller and nearly re-badged hardware (in regards to all Wii games at E3 being run on gamecubes). Whenever i show anyone Fight Night 3 on my plasma, they're blown away and know that its a next gen game. Wii games will just be another normal looking game.
And that has what to do with Japan's insane obsession with Final Fantasy?
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Old 07-19-06 | 11:05 AM
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Id say, based on actually going to a next gen system vs a new controller and nearly re-badged hardware (in regards to all Wii games at E3 being run on gamecubes).
No, I think it's more FFXIII and the other games that are on the PS and insanely popular.

The Japanese market doesn't seem to be as swayed by graphics as western markets. i.e. the DS is murdering the PSP in system and especially software sales over their, and lots of quirky games with simple graphics are huge hits over there compared to here.
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I dont think its fair to compare the portable market to the home market, they dont have a thing to do with each other IMO. When i think portable gaming, im not thinking widescreen and 5.1 audio. But perhaps thats just me? Also, HD sets are very abundant and much more advanced in japan then they are in the US (japan had the 1080p plasma months ago, as an example). I think that a lot of people are waiting for the ps3 to come out in japan to really make the jump. But again, this is all assumption. Having Final Fantasy isnt going to hurt sony one bit obviously.
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PlayStation 3 production has already begun - reports
Ellie Gibson 17:14 19/07/2006
Sony said to be receiving 200,000 units this month

According to Chinese business newspaper The Commercial Times, production has already begun on the PlayStation 3 as Sony gears up for the next-gen console's November launch.

The Commercial Times reports that manufacturer Asustek Computer has been producing machines since the start of the month, and that Sony is set to receive a shipment of 200,000 machines by the end of July. More manufacturers are set to deliver shipments in August.

It seems highly likely that Sony would want to begin PS3 production as early as possible, in order to deal with any problems which may occur quickly. However, the company has yet to confirm or deny the Commercial Times' claims.
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Old 07-19-06 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
I dont think its fair to compare the portable market to the home market, they dont have a thing to do with each other IMO
Which is why I also mentioned how a lot of quirky games with simple graphics are much bigger over there than here. i.e. stuff like the Katamari games etc.
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Old 07-19-06 | 01:43 PM
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Which is why I also mentioned how a lot of quirky games with simple graphics are much bigger over there than here. i.e. stuff like the Katamari games etc.
Absolutely. Heck, Pachinko still reigns supreme in japan, so their market is a tricky one to define completely. However, i do beleive that a lot of japanese gamers have been waiting a long time to try hd gaming, especially with how popular hdtv's are in japan.
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Old 07-19-06 | 02:21 PM
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Have Japanese gamers ever really shown an interest in amazing graphics? These are the same people that will camp on the sidewalk for a new Dragon Warrior game.

I think the PS2 was strong in Japan because of Final Fantasy and a ton of Japanese-centric games. I think Sony is vastly overestimating the importance of HD graphics to most Japanese gamers.
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I agree, it's games that they want to play that will determine the winner in Japan, not fancy HD graphics.

Pretty much the exact opposite of the US where game selection matters, but graphics play a much larger role.
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Old 07-19-06 | 03:38 PM
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You assume too much. I dont even know of a single PS3 game that ive seen so far that i'd want to buy. Tekken 6 and the new final fantasy look great and hopefully a FF7 remake. None are launch titles tho. However, i want a ps3 for blu-ray movies. If sony doesnt have some significance by the end of this year, then they deserve all the bad press. However, im still giving them an opportunity. In all honesty, i consider myself much more open minded then a lot of the people who post here who refuse to beleive anything other then their own theorys.
So if it meshes with your opinion, then it is being openminded. YOU ONLY BELIEVE YOUR FUCKING THEORIES. The difference is that some of us don't consider ourselves all knowing and superior to others here.

My god do you even look at the stuff you type before you post it?
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Old 07-19-06 | 03:40 PM
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Id say, based on actually going to a next gen system vs a new controller and nearly re-badged hardware (in regards to all Wii games at E3 being run on gamecubes). Whenever i show anyone Fight Night 3 on my plasma, they're blown away and know that its a next gen game. Wii games will just be another normal looking game.
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It is literally impossible to take anything you say seriously. You are without a doubt the most biased person registered on this entire forum. If PS3 tanks, then they will have to put you on suicide watch. Ridonkulous.

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Old 07-19-06 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitz6Speed
Id say, based on actually going to a next gen system vs a new controller and nearly re-badged hardware (in regards to all Wii games at E3 being run on gamecubes). Whenever i show anyone Fight Night 3 on my plasma, they're blown away and know that its a next gen game. Wii games will just be another normal looking game.
Wrong. Again. Just you wait and see. The Wii will be 100% sold out in Japan just like the DS lite is.

Unless you think all those Japanese are chomping at the bit to play Untold Legends on the PS3.
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Qui Gon - Please tone down your comments to Blitz. You're treading close to personal attacks, and plus this is a PS3 thread. Please keep that on topic. If you can't then expect a break.

Blitz - Please keep your bashing of ANY console/company out of these threads. You are entitled to your opinion, but when others give thiers you need to respect it as well. Please keep this about PS3 and ONLY PS3. You seem to veer off topic easily and degrade threads. Keep it up, and you'll be on yet another break.
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Old 07-19-06 | 04:25 PM
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My apologies, L&O. I should know better.
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20/07/2006

Depending on who you choose to believe, the production process for PlayStation 3 is either running smoothly with plenty of redundancy built into the plan to ensure that sufficient units are ready for the market in November - or is the greatest nightmare in Sony's history as an electronics manufacturer, with low yields threatening to make the company's expensive albatross about as rare as rocking horse faeces come Christmas.

The two points of view - and let's not pretend that either of them is actually a fact at this point in time - don't reconcile terribly well with one another. Media reports supporting both of them are well distributed around the Internet; on the one hand, we have comments from IBM a few months ago indicating that yields of the Cell processor were great, whereas a directly contradictory article more recently cited an anonymous source saying that yields were far lower than expected. Some sources have reported that PS3 chipsets are already being shipped; others seem to believe that they won't ship until late August. And so on, and so forth.

In other words, nobody outside of Sony and its closest manufacturing partners actually knows what on earth is going on with the PS3 right now - but one very strong pointer in favour of the "everything on track" camp came this week from Chinese manufacturing firm Asustek, one of the companies which has been contracted to build the console.

Chinese newspaper The Commercial Times reported early in the week that Asustek was already rolling units of the PS3 off its production lines, with a shipment of 200,000 units set to go to Sony before the end of July as the stockpiling of hardware for the November launch begins. Asustek promptly and helpfully threatened to take a court action against any media source reporting such sensitive business information about its operations - which is as close to an unintentional confirmation as we can imagine, really.

If true, then this is good news. Sony's plan to ship six million units of the PS3 by the end of its financial year in March 2007 will leave the PS3 thin enough on the ground already, without the additional damage of having limited quantities available for launch right now. If it can turn out 200,000 units from Asustek by the end of this month, there's a strong chance that it could be pumping out a million units a month of the PS3 by November - which, combined with the stockpile of units assembled between now and that point, could actually mean a decent launch allocation for all of the firm's key territories, which would be a surprising but very welcome first for Sony, a company whose hardware launches have traditionally been somewhere between farcical and downright tragic in this regard.

Indeed, the firm seems to be working hard to earn the benefit of the doubt in this regard; British trade newspaper MCV will this week report that Sony is talking to retailers about a pre-order scheme which would see customers making a GBP 150 deposit on machines. The venture is likely to raise hackles among consumers initially, but will ultimately reduce the level of eBay profiteering surrounding the launch - and will mean that the amount people have to pay on the day for the system is significantly smaller, which should help to boost initial software sales.

Manufacturing units well in advance and engaging with retail to discuss pre-order schemes isn't the kind of thing we'd have expected from "old" Sony - these actions, if true, are the actions of a company that has learned some very hard lessons from its own mistakes (with PSP and PS2) and indeed from the mistakes of its rivals (such as Xbox 360's under-supplied launch last winter). Of course, none of this changes the fact that PS3 will still have to compete with a lower-priced Xbox 360 with a wider catalogue of games, and with Nintendo's fascinating and bargain priced Wii - but if the firm can sort out the problems which have traditionally dogged Sony hardware launches, this Christmas' retail battle suddenly becomes much more interesting.

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I wonder how they would do with deposits of $250 or so. And I wonder what the bundles will cost. My guess is that most will be sold initially in bundles.
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I miss arguing with Joshd2012. I'm thinking his house must have been located on Sony's foot because he disappeared after E3.
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kvr, I pre-ordered at FYE. $50 deposit, $800 bundle. If I weren't selling it on ebay I would have cancelled it long ago. My guess is EB Games/Gamestop will ask for $100 deposit, and we don't force bundles. Then again, our store is probably only getting 15, so we may ask for only people willing to full pay.
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Best Buy has never bundled new consoles, or allowed preorders for that matter. I'll be camping out there for mine. Plus, I like their replacement plan and financing options.
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Old 07-23-06 | 05:31 AM
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Best Buy has never bundled new consoles
Perhaps you didn't hear about several Best Buys forcing bundles on people who waited in line, after advertising the standalone systems in their flyers?
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Perhaps you didn't hear about several Best Buys forcing bundles on people who waited in line, after advertising the standalone systems in their flyers?

Wouldn't that be cause for a false advertisement lawsuit? If I stood in line for several hours to buy a $599.99 standalone PS3 they have advertised, and then they won't sell it to me without forcing me to buy other things I don't want, you better believe that I would be mighty pissed off.
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Old 07-23-06 | 05:29 PM
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Wouldn't that be cause for a false advertisement lawsuit? If I stood in line for several hours to buy a $599.99 standalone PS3 they have advertised, and then they won't sell it to me without forcing me to buy other things I don't want, you better believe that I would be mighty pissed off.

My Best Buy not only did the bundles but didn't annouce it until 10 hours of line waiting. Lots of people complained but they weren't hearing it.

Not only that but they told the people in line who the last person that was going to get a premium and core since they had the systems all counted out. Slowly but surely the number of Premiums started shrinking as employees started whispering to each other that they now want one after seeing how long the line was. They said the number was shrinking number was because they were holding some systems back for return exchanges, which was complete BS considering I could hear what they were whispering to each other.

So to make a long story short after waiting 10 hours in line many were told in the morning that not only were they not getting the premium that they were promised earlier but that they would also have to buy an expensive bundle just to get a core system.

I remember many stores getting reprimanded for these kind of tactics though so it might be better for the PS3 launch.
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Any Best Buy that tried pulling that scam was just trying to pad their accessory number. You should have called corporate right there and see what would happen.
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I remember many stores getting reprimanded for these kind of tactics though so it might be better for the PS3 launch.

Which is why it's not going to happen for the PS3.
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