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Old 05-10-06 | 01:36 PM
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I'll wait. I'm sure they will slim it down by then and have a huge library of $20 games.
What he said.
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Old 05-10-06 | 03:13 PM
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I don't think you can make a fair comparison in the PS3's launch to that of the 360. The PS3 will most certainly have all the hype surrounding it much like that of the 360, but last November, the 360 was the only option you had to get yourself into the next generation of games.
Why do you think 360s sold on ebay for so much? The demand was high, the supply was low, and there were no other alternatives.

It's now the end of the year. The PS3 is ready for release with it's set of launch titles, but just to get your foot in the door, you've got to spend a minimum of $550 + tax which can't get you the next generation of high definition movies (1080p) which was part of the PS3 hype.

So what has Sony done? They've alienated the gamers who just wanted the PS3 for games because now, these people DO have another option seen in the 360 or the Wii...and if MS decides to drop the price of their 360, it only serves to sway more potential buyers into their camp.

So, the way I see it, those who absolutely need to play the 1st party and exclusive games on the PS3 will make up a huge percentage of the early adopters of the console. Sony's problems for this round is their high price and consumers having other options to choose from.
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Old 05-10-06 | 04:10 PM
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I actually see very large price drops soon after the PS3 is released. Part of the high cost of the PS3 is the Blu-Ray drive, which is unnecessarily eating up a major chunk of the cost of the PS3. As blu-ray drives costs come way down, the PS3 price will follow. There is no way that Sony wants the PS3 to stay at $400 a couple years after launch. My prediction is a $100 price drop in May 2007, and another $100 in Sept/Oct 2007, and another $100 in May 2008. That's the only way they will be able to stay in the game against Nintendo and Microsoft. Considering the #1 game series is premiering on the 360 this fall with Grand Theft Auto 4.

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Old 05-10-06 | 04:14 PM
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Considering the #1 game series is premiering on the 360 this fall with Grand Theft Auto 4.

Pretty sure that's not until Fall 2007.
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Old 05-10-06 | 04:18 PM
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Pretty sure that's not until Fall 2007.
Oops, you're right. Nevermind. Still a big deal on Microsoft's part, but by October 2007, people may not care anymore.
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Old 05-10-06 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PerryD
I actually see very large price drops soon after the PS3 is released. Part of the high cost of the PS3 is the Blu-Ray drive, which is unnecessarily eating up a major chunk of the cost of the PS3. As blu-ray drives costs come way down, the PS3 price will follow. There is no way that Sony wants the PS3 to stay at $400 a couple years after launch. My prediction is a $100 price drop in May 2007, and another $100 in Sept/Oct 2007, and another $100 in May 2008. That's the only way they will be able to stay in the game against Nintendo and Microsoft. Considering the #1 game series is premiering on the 360 this fall with Grand Theft Auto 4.
I highly doubt they will drop the price $300 in two years. Even with BR technology getting cheaper over time, that's an insane amount of price drops.
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Old 05-10-06 | 09:38 PM
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GTA4 is coming out on both Xbox 360 and PS3 simultaneously, it says so on the rockstar website. There is some exclusive content for 360 however, although whats to say there wont be some for PS3 once they get a feel for how their online service is.
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Old 05-10-06 | 10:57 PM
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Considering the speed that the PS2/Xbox price drops occured, I'll have a PS3 around 2012 I'm sure I can't hold out that long, though. I'll look into it around late 2008.
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Old 05-10-06 | 11:01 PM
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Perhaps we should have expected an exorbitant price like this, since Sony already announced strong PS2 support through 2008.
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Old 05-10-06 | 11:36 PM
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Checkout the extended MGS4 trailer at the konami site below. The ending Raiden scene is freakin amazing!

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2006/
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Old 05-11-06 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PerryD
I actually see very large price drops soon after the PS3 is released. Part of the high cost of the PS3 is the Blu-Ray drive, which is unnecessarily eating up a major chunk of the cost of the PS3. As blu-ray drives costs come way down, the PS3 price will follow. There is no way that Sony wants the PS3 to stay at $400 a couple years after launch. My prediction is a $100 price drop in May 2007, and another $100 in Sept/Oct 2007, and another $100 in May 2008. That's the only way they will be able to stay in the game against Nintendo and Microsoft. Considering the #1 game series is premiering on the 360 this fall with Grand Theft Auto 4.

are you on crack? there is no way, and i repeat, no way the price of the system is going to be cut in half in 18 months time...trust me

you will be lucky to have a $100 price cut in 18 months.

i am not a big sony fan and am very much on the fence about whether to pick up a ps3 at launch even though i can afford it, so i'm not going to post a bunch of venom about screw sony this...can't believe they priced it at that...blah...blah...blah, like everyone else is doing. i think i am going to bookmark this thread and start a txt file of people who adamantly state they are not getting a ps3, sony's not getting my money...and see which of these people have one at this time next year.
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Old 05-11-06 | 07:55 AM
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are you on crack? there is no way, and i repeat, no way the price of the system is going to be cut in half in 18 months time...trust me

you will be lucky to have a $100 price cut in 18 months.
When the sky-high $999 rumors of the PS3 came out, I thought to myself, even if it's $999, they will sell out the initial shipment on the strength of the Playstation name. They could always announce rapid, drastic price cuts to cut THAT price in half and I'm almost willing to bet they'd see the same amount of profits.

I don't think there will be a quick price cut but I would imagine by 2007 there will be one.
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Old 05-11-06 | 08:29 AM
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Nice Resistance trailer in HD:

http://www.us.playstation.com/Conten...GMID-018/Site/
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Old 05-11-06 | 08:55 AM
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The video quality in 720p looks awesome. The game looks pretty boring, till the aliens come out, then it looks awesome, especially with whatever that was that broke through the brick building. Gears of war looks a lot better tho.
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Old 05-11-06 | 01:18 PM
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Checkout the extended MGS4 trailer at the konami site below. The ending Raiden scene is freakin amazing!

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2006/

That trailer is fricking awesome. It looks like Raiden is the new ninja. I noticed that Snake's suit looks to have some type of chameleon ability now that lets it mimic the background. This will probably be like the camo system from MGS3. I also noticed in this new trailer that Snake is no longer wearing that fancy eye patch from last year's E3 trailer. I wonder why they got rid of it.

Maybe it is just me, but the scene where Snake is saluting the grave surrounded by white roses reminded me of the ending to MGS3. I wonder whose grave that was too.

I remember in an interview from last year that Kojima said that Snake will not die in MGS4, but after seeing this trailer I wonder how that will be possible. Naomi told him that he is aging so rapidly that he only has 6 months to live. Also, by the end of the trailer, it appears that Snake wants to die. I hope Kojima does not do some lame copout ending where they find a miracle cure to the rapid aging.
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Old 05-11-06 | 08:14 PM
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I have a feeling Naomi will find some miracle cure, or at least something to stop him from aging so fast.
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You people seem to forget how quickly the 3DO's price dropped....
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Old 05-12-06 | 11:37 PM
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Hi. 103 Million PS2's sold. I think they're good on the potential buyers area.
Yes, but at least half of those are re-buys because of broken systems. Heck, a lot of people have been through more than 2 PS2's....... ALL of the first units were defective and w/out a recall/fix....
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Old 05-13-06 | 12:23 AM
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The dual HDMI thing was BS from the start.

However no HDMI in the $499 version is a huge disappointment. I wonder how the general public will react to this. Which version will everyone want?
Most people have no clue what HDMI is.

We know the end of the world is coming when parents are dropping $600 on a video game system for their 10-year-old.
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Old 05-13-06 | 12:46 AM
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I wonder if they will stock the 2 types equally.
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Old 05-13-06 | 07:35 AM
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what they need to do is drop the 'tard pack altogether.
Drop the WiFi out of box
20GB HDD
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Old 05-13-06 | 08:33 AM
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Yes, but at least half of those are re-buys because of broken systems. Heck, a lot of people have been through more than 2 PS2's....... ALL of the first units were defective and w/out a recall/fix....
I don't know about half, but I don't know anyone with a launch unit that still works who hasn't had it repaired or opened it up and repaired it themselves.

There's no way in hell I'm spending $600 on launch hardware though.

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what they need to do is drop the 'tard pack altogether.
Drop the WiFi out of box
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That's exactly what they need to do.
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Old 05-13-06 | 09:44 AM
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Yes, but at least half of those are re-buys because of broken systems. Heck, a lot of people have been through more than 2 PS2's....... ALL of the first units were defective and w/out a recall/fix....

I personally know only *1* person that has had to re-buy a ps2. I know theres stories all over the net about how bad they are, but if you listen to the net, all xbox 360s come standard with 3 flashing red lights.
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Old 05-13-06 | 10:03 AM
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I personally know only *1* person that has had to re-buy a ps2. I know theres stories all over the net about how bad they are, but if you listen to the net, all xbox 360s come standard with 3 flashing red lights.
I know 15, but none of that is scientific and a couple rebought just to get the slim model. There is no way half of the 100 million is because of bad hardware since Sony fixed many PS2s out of warranty and many sites showed how to readjust the laser yourself.
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I personally know only *1* person that has had to re-buy a ps2. I know theres stories all over the net about how bad they are, but if you listen to the net, all xbox 360s come standard with 3 flashing red lights.
I managed a Gamestop for 3 years and the problem isn't just "stories on the net". I dealt with people with broken PS2 systems every day.
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