The Official PS3 Thread
02-11-06 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Not to mention that the very fact that the PS3 will play blu-ray discs for its video games means that Blu-Ray has a significant leg up in this format war that will help overcome what Binger thinks are "weak" releases.
Get a life. What happened to being able to state you opinion without fanboys circling the wagons. If you actually read my posts, you would notice that I am a supporter of Blu Ray and the PS3. But, I am not, however; a blind follower and if I think that they are making mistakes in regard to their launch, I'm entitled. Get over yourself already. Look, I've said my peace and I offered an olive branch earlier, but it appears to me that you are more interested in instigating a drawn out argument. Let it go.
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02-11-06 | 01:50 PM
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A. Not a fanboy.
B. Just stating some things that are contrary to your opinion, which is not holy.
C. You don't need to respond to every post we make either, by the way.
D. Over it. Since you can't take a conversation with someone who disagrees with you, you're going on my ignore list. Bye.
B. Just stating some things that are contrary to your opinion, which is not holy.
C. You don't need to respond to every post we make either, by the way.
D. Over it. Since you can't take a conversation with someone who disagrees with you, you're going on my ignore list. Bye.
02-11-06 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
A. Not a fanboy.
B. Just stating some things that are contrary to your opinion, which is not holy.
C. You don't need to respond to every post we make either, by the way.
D. Over it. Since you can't take a conversation with someone who disagrees with you, you're going on my ignore list. Bye.
B. Just stating some things that are contrary to your opinion, which is not holy.
C. You don't need to respond to every post we make either, by the way.
D. Over it. Since you can't take a conversation with someone who disagrees with you, you're going on my ignore list. Bye.
No, please don't ignore me. Oh.. what will I do, my life is meaningless.
02-11-06 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
Hey Guys, this is a thread about PS3, so lets keep things as far away from personal as possible.
I agree, and I tried to say that a few posts up. Sorry about the situation, but if you read I tried to make peace several times, wouldn't you agree? At any rate, I agree about keeping it on topic.
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02-11-06 | 06:33 PM
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You have proved nothing. Maybe you misunderstand the definition of a new release vs a catalog release. I am in no way talking about the quantity of releases, I am talking about current films (again not catalog titles) that will better help to sell J6P, who like it or not is going to determine the outcome of which format is the standard. Let's all get back on topic, shall we.
02-11-06 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Good find Flay.
I have to say that this is a quite reassuring article. Sony's hardware strength has always been its ability to evolve (name a first generation PS2 game that looks anywhere close to MGS4 - or a first generation PS1 game that can compare to Tekken 3). As long as they set a good platform (which the article conveys they did), they have much room to grow.
I have to say that this is a quite reassuring article. Sony's hardware strength has always been its ability to evolve (name a first generation PS2 game that looks anywhere close to MGS4 - or a first generation PS1 game that can compare to Tekken 3). As long as they set a good platform (which the article conveys they did), they have much room to grow.
I found a lot of things in that article to be quite disturbing:
"The stylish PlayStation 3 casing design that SCEI boss Ken Kutaragi revealed last year is, and always has been, empty - and no signs of a final, tangible casing solution appear to be in sight. "I think to fit everything that Sony wants in there AND leave space for a 2.5 inch hard drive," explains one senior developer working on a final kit, who will be our guide for much of this report, "the machine would have to grow. The models they're showing off are way too small for what they want.""
"we're programming the game as if it will be written for a 10-speed DVD drive. Anything less would affect load time."
"We expect the visual quality and vivid realism you get from pre-rendered special effects in movies, right now, in realtime on PS3, because that's what has been promised. Now that we've played it, have they reached that goal? Really reached it? The short answer is no, of course not"
"Our insider explains: "Sony wanted 1080p, but we're working at 720p and 1080i, same as on the Xbox 360. Even with [final hardware] in mind, reaching good frame rates at 1080p with next-gen graphics is almost impossible.""
"It's certainly obvious this machine is not "twice" as powerful as 360, let alone a generational leap ahead. But the gap could become bigger: "Realistically, as libraries and experience with both machines grow, I think the PS3 will start showing things the 360 will choke at," offers the source. "But Sony will have to make available to us libraries and new routines for that to happen - something they've been severely lacking at so far."
"But our guide adds: 'Cell is weird and difficult to work with... coding has progressed with high speeds and paper specs in mind, it's one of the reasons framerate specs aren't met yet.'"
"Based on what we've seen and played, launch software will look like nice Xbox 360 material - Dead or Alive 4, Gears of War."
"But the reality, while still impressive, is nowhere near the leap beyond Xbox 360 Sony wants you to believe, and it seems many projects are still at an early enough stage for things to start getting a little worrying."
02-12-06 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
That exact same article is posted on page 1.
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02-12-06 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fandango
Lol, how could you miss it, he pasted the full text just like you did.
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02-12-06 | 08:09 PM
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From: Blu-Ray: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Petition
Originally Posted by JM
I found a lot of things in that article to be quite disturbing
02-15-06 | 12:10 AM
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It's official. The hard drive is sold seperately.
http://www.playstation.com/business.html
Click on product outline and scroll to the bottom.
http://www.playstation.com/business.html
Click on product outline and scroll to the bottom.
02-15-06 | 01:11 AM
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Hasn't it been official for a long while now? Besides with high-capacity memory cards and without the need to jury-rig a backwards-compatible solution (cough, 360, cough), a HD really isn't needed for the console (which is already overly expensive and space-limited) anyway.
02-15-06 | 10:02 AM
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I've never heard of this site, so take with a grain of salt: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2270&Itemid=2
I've never heard of this site, so take with a grain of salt: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2270&Itemid=2
Exclusive: PS3 HUB; September Launch
Next Generation can reveal that Sony is planning to launch an online games service, largely modelled on Xbox Live, currently called PlayStation HUB. We also understand Sony is aiming for a September launch for PlayStation 3 in Japan and North America.
According to well-placed industry sources, PlayStation HUB will offer PlayStation 3 owners much the same services as Xbox Live, including chat, downloadable demos, independent games and online play. The service is also designed to support PSP online play as well as PS3. It's a departure from PlayStation 2's online strategy, widely regarded as vastly inferior to Microsoft's.
PlayStation HUB is being described to developers as a 'subscriber service' suggesting a monthly charge. We understand the service is being created by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, although this is unconfirmed.
Sony boss Howard Stringer is pushing for all media content to be available for distribution over PlayStation HUB, such as music and movies, thus opening up a powerful iTunes-like distribution network for Sony.
Developer sources are also suggesting that PlayStation 3 is currently scheduled to launch in September. A launch games release schedule seen by our sources states a September launch. Although the schedule does not explicitly state a hardware launch date, nor a launch territory, we understand Japan and U.S will both see the machine in September.
Some in the industry have taken this as a lead to speculate that September 16 would be a launch date in Japan (a Saturday before a national holiday) followed by September 21 in the U.S. These dates are not confirmed and, as always, launch dates are subject to constant revision.
A spokesperson for SCEA said the company does not comment on rumors. However, we understand Sony is preparing to announce HUB some time in the next few weeks.
Next Generation can reveal that Sony is planning to launch an online games service, largely modelled on Xbox Live, currently called PlayStation HUB. We also understand Sony is aiming for a September launch for PlayStation 3 in Japan and North America.
According to well-placed industry sources, PlayStation HUB will offer PlayStation 3 owners much the same services as Xbox Live, including chat, downloadable demos, independent games and online play. The service is also designed to support PSP online play as well as PS3. It's a departure from PlayStation 2's online strategy, widely regarded as vastly inferior to Microsoft's.
PlayStation HUB is being described to developers as a 'subscriber service' suggesting a monthly charge. We understand the service is being created by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, although this is unconfirmed.
Sony boss Howard Stringer is pushing for all media content to be available for distribution over PlayStation HUB, such as music and movies, thus opening up a powerful iTunes-like distribution network for Sony.
Developer sources are also suggesting that PlayStation 3 is currently scheduled to launch in September. A launch games release schedule seen by our sources states a September launch. Although the schedule does not explicitly state a hardware launch date, nor a launch territory, we understand Japan and U.S will both see the machine in September.
Some in the industry have taken this as a lead to speculate that September 16 would be a launch date in Japan (a Saturday before a national holiday) followed by September 21 in the U.S. These dates are not confirmed and, as always, launch dates are subject to constant revision.
A spokesperson for SCEA said the company does not comment on rumors. However, we understand Sony is preparing to announce HUB some time in the next few weeks.
02-15-06 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Decker
Hasn't it been official for a long while now? Besides with high-capacity memory cards and without the need to jury-rig a backwards-compatible solution (cough, 360, cough), a HD really isn't needed for the console (which is already overly expensive and space-limited) anyway.
A 4 gig memory card will run about $200, I hardly see how that's high capacity or how it negates the need for a HDD.
The only time a HDD becomes pointless is if there isn't an online service, but it's looking like Sony might be putting something together.
02-16-06 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tenaciousdave
It's official. The hard drive is sold seperately.
http://www.playstation.com/business.html
Click on product outline and scroll to the bottom.
http://www.playstation.com/business.html
Click on product outline and scroll to the bottom.
02-17-06 | 12:17 PM
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http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20060216PR206.html
Sony expects strong PS3 shipments in 2006, may work with Microsoft
Kevin Hsu, Taipei; Carrie Yu, DigiTimes.com [Thursday 16 February 2006]
Sony expects to ship over 100 million PlayStation 3 (PS3) game consoles, according to Tetsuhiko Yasuda, Sony Computer Entertainment Asia’s corporate executive managing director and senior vice president of Asia. He also said Sony may work with Microsoft in the future.
Sony has not finalized the specific time frame for the PS3 launch, as well as pricing, he said. The company aims to launch the PS3 at the same time throughout Asia. However, not all the regions in the global market will see the same launch day, as the Internet infrastructures differ in each individual market, Yasuda said.
Sony has shipped over 100 million PS1game consoles and similar amount of the PS2 game console, with Taiwan and Hong Kong accounting for 10% of its PS2 sales in Asia, Yasuda indicated.
Sony does not regard Xbox as a competitor. Rather, the company may even consider working with Microsoft to develop games together, Yasuda noted.
The company is currently showcasing the PS3 at the Taipei Game Show (TGS) 2006, which is taking place from February 16-20.
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Sony expects strong PS3 shipments in 2006, may work with Microsoft
Kevin Hsu, Taipei; Carrie Yu, DigiTimes.com [Thursday 16 February 2006]
Sony expects to ship over 100 million PlayStation 3 (PS3) game consoles, according to Tetsuhiko Yasuda, Sony Computer Entertainment Asia’s corporate executive managing director and senior vice president of Asia. He also said Sony may work with Microsoft in the future.
Sony has not finalized the specific time frame for the PS3 launch, as well as pricing, he said. The company aims to launch the PS3 at the same time throughout Asia. However, not all the regions in the global market will see the same launch day, as the Internet infrastructures differ in each individual market, Yasuda said.
Sony has shipped over 100 million PS1game consoles and similar amount of the PS2 game console, with Taiwan and Hong Kong accounting for 10% of its PS2 sales in Asia, Yasuda indicated.
Sony does not regard Xbox as a competitor. Rather, the company may even consider working with Microsoft to develop games together, Yasuda noted.
The company is currently showcasing the PS3 at the Taipei Game Show (TGS) 2006, which is taking place from February 16-20.
Chris
02-17-06 | 10:53 PM
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PS3 may not launch this year in the U.S.
http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-6041208.html
Be sure to read the Merrill Lynch report on which the article is based. It indicates that each PS3 may cost Sony $900 to manufacture initially. Given Sony's financial problems, if that is true, I don't see Sony being able to sell the PS3 at $399 to match the Xbox 360.
http://news.com.com/2061-10797_3-6041208.html
Be sure to read the Merrill Lynch report on which the article is based. It indicates that each PS3 may cost Sony $900 to manufacture initially. Given Sony's financial problems, if that is true, I don't see Sony being able to sell the PS3 at $399 to match the Xbox 360.
02-18-06 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JM
Given Sony's financial problems, if that is true, I don't see Sony being able to sell the PS3 at $399 to match the Xbox 360.
http://www.latimes.com/business/cust...business-enter
02-18-06 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
"Sony Chairman Howard Stringer is executing a sweeping restructuring of the struggling electronics and entertainment giant, with his efforts focused on reviving its electronics business that has long accounted for more than half of the company's revenue."
Other than the PlayStation line, Sony's electronics division has not been doing well at all, and Sony entertainment has also suffered some setbacks lately (rootkit fiasco anyone?). This is well known and beyond dispute. It is premature to say they are back where they want to be on the basis of one better than expected quarter (the busy holiday season no less). The bottom line is that Sony cannot afford to take a $500 hit per console to make a $399 price point (if the $900 figure is correct). I doubt Microsoft would do that either. So, if the figures are correct, either Sony is going to delay to try to wait for component prices to come down some or release at what will be a high pricetag for a console (something that has long been rumored).
02-18-06 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JM
Other than the PlayStation line, Sony's electronics division has not been doing well at all...
"Strong sales of Sony's new Bravia liquid crystal display TVs and its popular PlayStation Portable hand-held game system fueled an 18% rise in fiscal third-quarter profit, to $1.4 billion. Revenue also hit a record, climbing 10% to $20.1 billion."
So I would say their TV line - which is part of their electronics division - is doing quite well.
...and Sony entertainment has also suffered some setbacks lately (rootkit fiasco anyone?). This is well known and beyond dispute.
"Music sales were flat, but that was better than the industry overall. Sony BMG, its joint music venture with Bertelsmann, reported third-quarter sales of $1.5 billion, down less than 1% from a year earlier. Earnings were $178 million, up from $157 million, helped by cost cutting and album sales by Kelly Clarkson and Kenny Chesney."
So again I say, what financial problems? If you post profits, that means your business is doing what it is supposed to be doing. Making money.