hey circuitcity.com had just the console for 399 and a core bundle, checkout worked just fine.

it says that they are available, but the site also shows out of stock.

Ebgames.com has 4 different bundles that will be available next week. For those still looking...

Also, the xbox360 tracker site shows Circuit City having them in as well:

http://xbox360tracker.com/

Circuit City has some error going on with their website for the premium. The stock they had is sold out but the website is still showing it in stock. You get to go through everything where it is about to say 'your order is processed' and then bam, sorry for the error. Pisser

edit: they did have cores as of late last night

Kmart.com has the core in stock.

http://www.bensbargains.net/xbox360/xbox360.php

I ended up going the eBay route. $450 for a premium system with NBA2k6, media remote and play and charge kit. Better than I would have paid retail.

That is a great deal. Even forgetting the game, all that stuff would have been more then $450 retail + tax.

I bet in the days following the 360 launch, that auction would have netted over $1000.

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.p...5&page=1&pp=50


downward trend in hardware sales for x360; shortages are fun aren't they?

I tend to go to Best Buy a lot and I still have yet to ANY systems out on the floor, and this has been pretty consistant over all of CT. Anyone seen them out anywhere in CT? I work a regular 9-5 job so usually by the time I'm out and about they're gone. I wish they would put some out at 5pm so the regular folks could stand a chance. I'm not in too much of a rush though but hopefully I'll have one in time for "Dead Rising". If they haven't made enough by June then they've really got problems!

Wow! These figures amaze me on several levels!

How so?
They seem pretty typical to me.

Not too surprising. And if you're looking at 360 sales and comparing with other comperable systems, you shoud ignore the DS and PSP sales as those are in a different market then the 360.

But it does make sense with the 360, XBox, PS2 and GCN numbers.
360 is still fairly hard to find. PS2 makes up the bulk of the sales. Xbox is outdated hardware, and GCN is always the last place console.

Well for one, who would've thought that they made over 10,000 Xbox 360 units!?!?! (I'm not trying to be a smartass. )

Secondly, PSP AND PS2 are outselling the Xbox 360!??!?!

Wow!

Yeah but had 299,001 xbox 360s been available they would've outsold the PS2.

And that's why I call this a failed launch!

A failed launch would mean that no one is buying the systems and they are sitting on the shelf gathering dust.
That is far from the case. The launch units sold out immedieatly. When a store gets a shipment in, they sell our very quick. People are still anxious to get the system.
I would grant that the launch isn't 100% success, and that it could have been handled better. But it is far, far from a failed launch.

As I've said many times in this thread, I'd buy an Xbox 360 in a heartbeat if I could find a non-bundled version. There is no difficulty finding PSPs and PS2s.

I understand we're dealing with an established piece of hardware and a set manufacturing process, but it's interesting to me that the Xbox 360 is in such "high demand" they can't keep it on the shelves, but they can sell MORE PS2s and PSPs while keeping shelves stocked at all times.

So, it seems pretty clear to me that Microsoft isn't making enough of the things.

OR way too many people are left wanting a unit. The law of supply and demand. It works both ways.

High supply, no demand = failed launch.

High demand, no supply = failed launch. This is what we have with the Xbox 360.

The Best Buys I've been in either have them behind the Customer Service counter or keep them in the back. Always ask if they have any when you go in.

Circuit City also keeps them permanently in the back. You have to ask them and they look it up in the computer. They are the only store I've seen that has had them at night and/or on the weekend.

Best Buy seems to get them in the morning between Tues-Thurs of each week. And they are usually gone in a couple of hours.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/gener...arriage=befree

Bundles available at CC.com. You can remove the extra stuff.

By your definition the PS/2 was a failed launch. If I remember correctly it took two months for the PS/2 to be readily available.

Besides with the supposed delay of the PS/3 this is becoming a moot point.

We're quickly approaching 4 months since the 360 launch and shortages have eased only slightly... at least in my area. What makes the 360 launch shortages more serious was that even in spite of known shortages before the launch date, Microsoft did nothing to "soften" the launch. Try to bring demand down closer to supply.

I don't remember Sony having the massive media campaign that Microsoft did.

But in the end, the success or failure of a console launch is only a single data point and doesn't guarantee future viability. You want to consider the 360 launch a success? That's okay. But if supply remains short, what happened at launch won't matter.

How is a PS3 delay making this a moot point?

I got a PS2 on Black Friday, a few weeks or so after it launched. I have yet to see an Xbox 360 on a shelf anywhere.

I really don't understand the fact of stating a launch is a failure or sucess. I tried for months to get a PS/2 in the beginning to finally giving up. I see a console success being based on more of a long term goal. Look at the Dreamcast it sold well the first month, but in the long run it failed.

I am confuse by your statement of "known shortages before launch" every console launch I have seen always have a blur about supply shortages. I agree with you the shortage dones suck, but I have begin to more 360 on the market.

My statement about the supposed PS/3 delay making this a moot point could be true. The longer the PS/3 is held off the market only strenghten Microsoft position. But this is only my opinion.

The final opinion is left to the buying public and they vote over time.

Speaking of launches:

I don't remember having any problems getting a Dreamcast near launch. I even remenber TRU, of all places, had a trade in deal, where you could trade in a PS1 and some games for a discount on a DC. In fact, the first shortage I remember was the PS2 (when the Gamecube and Xbox came out later, I decided to wait because of how hard it was to get a PS2).