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joshd2012 06-23-05 10:57 AM

Awesome find!

I added a picture of the current RSX as it currently is being test as:

http://media.teamxbox.com/dailyposts/sony/rsx.jpg

Its not final, but it does exist!

DVDFreaker 06-26-05 08:27 AM

The Playstation 3 is a nice looking system, I will be buying that plus Nintendo Revolution which is also a nice looking system next year, I can't wait!

joshd2012 06-28-05 11:25 AM


It looks like IBM processors are good for something else other than being the central nervous system of the Sony PlayStation gaming consoles or the Toshiba television sets. Thus, according to Reuters, the American manufacturer has struck a licensing deal with Mercury Computer Systems Inc., a medical and military equipments manufacturer.

The agreement refers to the IBM’s Cell processor, and Mercury intends for the processor to become the core technology to power a range of "embedded" computers it designs for magnetic resonance image scanners in medicine to missile radar and sonar systems for military uses.

IBM and Mercury have signed a multiyear agreement according to which teams of IBM engineers will develop Cell processors specially adapted to Mercury’s requirements.

The Cell processor will be used within the Sony PlayStation gaming consoles and the future line of Toshiba TVs, which are devices demanding a very high graphic processing capacity. Although many analysts have their doubts regarding Cell’s success beyond the limits of the gaming equipments industry, IBM’s officials are convinced that the processor will find itself multiple uses on the future. "We are beginning to expand the adoption of Cell into other industries," said Raj Desai, vice president of IBM engineering and technology services -- the custom chip design unit.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Cell-...les-3877.shtml

6 years, 87 day, 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 22 seconds before Cells become self-aware.

The Franchise 06-28-05 03:22 PM

From PSM:

http://www.a2astudio.com/face/Phil_Real.jpg

jeffdsmith 06-28-05 05:30 PM

One thing Sony still hasn't learned, there are no absolutes.

Honestly though, I'm really tired of these PR marketing guys spouting there mouth off about things they really have little grasp of.

Chris_D 06-28-05 07:17 PM

I'm actually more excited about the prospect having a few cells on my desktop (hopefully running something other than windows!) than having a cell in the ps3. I thought that maybe apple could migrate OSX to a modified version of the cell in the near future, but looks like they have tied themselves to Intel now..

joshd2012 06-28-05 07:36 PM

Prediction on Price by Analyst Merrill Lynch Japan:


Merrill Lynch Japan predicts Sony will lose over $1 billion on hardware during its next-gen console's first year on the market--a sum it may not be able to recoup.

According to the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, Merrill Lynch Japan Securities has recently calculated an analysis that the production of a single PlayStation 3 console will cost Sony approximately 54,000 yen to make ($494), as of its initial release in 2006.

Merrill Lynch Japan estimates that the machine's main components--namely its Cell chip, RSX, and BD-ROM drive--will cost about 11,000 yen ($101) each. After adding the other electronics that will be used in the PS3, the machine's production cost goes up to 54,000 yen.

Given that Sony's PS3 will face stiff competition from Microsoft's Xbox 360, the chances that Sony will release its console at its production cost is slim. Under the assumption that the Xbox 360 is expected to sell at around $299, Merrill Lynch Japan predicts that Sony will sell each PS3 at the price of 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan and $399 in America. That would mean Sony would suffer a loss of over 130 billion yen ($1.18 billion) during the first year of the PS3's release.

By comparison, the PlayStation 2 cost 39,800 ($364) in Japan and $299 in America when it launched in 2000. During its first year of release, Sony Computer Entertainment suffered a loss of 51.1 billion yen ($458 million), but it recovered the next year with a profit of 82.9 billion yen ($759 million), followed by 112.6 billion yen ($1.03 billion) the year after.

It is normal for game companies to take a loss on hardware whenever a new console launches, since they typically focus on acquiring market share rather than generating a profit during the first year. During the second year and afterwards, they can recover the losses with the savings that come from mass production and licensing fees from publishers.

However, Merrill Lynch Japan warns the normal console business cycle may be disrupted if Microsoft cuts the Xbox 360's price when the PlayStation 3 launches. The report goes on to say such a move could hurt Sony's plans, bringing a loss of 80 billion yen ($730 million) in its first year, and 50 billion yen ($457 million) in its second year. Thus far, Sony has already invested 200 billion yen ($1.83 billion) into the development and production for the Cell chip alone.

Toyo Keizai goes on to interview Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi, who avoided revealing the PS3's price, but hinted that it would not be marked down excessively. "Whether consumers think a product is expensive or cheap all depends on the balance between its appeal and price," he said. "Our ideal [for the PS3] is for consumers to think to themselves, 'Ok, I'll work more hours and buy it'. We want people to feel that they want it, no matter what."

"When Nintendo was selling its 16-bit machine at around 12,500 yen ($114), we sold the first PlayStation at 39,800 yen ($364)," continued Kutaragi. "The press was saying that it was expensive, but it was a huge hit. It's the same thing with the PlayStation Portable from last year. The Game Boy Advance is a same handheld gaming machine, and it costs less than 10 thousand yen ($91). On the other hand, our PSP had cost 25,000 yen ($229). But people lined up overnight to buy it, and it sold out on the day of its launch.. It all depends on whether people want it. Of course, I'm confident that the PS3 is a product that people will definitely want."
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06...s_6128295.html

joshd2012 06-28-05 07:39 PM

Game developers speak out on next-gen hardware:


Executives from Square Enix, Konami, Namco, Sega, and Koei sound off on their different perspectives on the next generation of hardware.

In the latest issue of Japanese magazine Toyo Keizai, representatives of five major Japanese game publishers commented oh how the game market will be changing with the appearance of the next generation of consoles, and how they plan on adjusting their business. The magazine interviewed executives from Square Enix, Namco, Konami, Sega, and Koei, which each had different views. The following is a translation of the key quotes by each of the representatives.

Youichi Wada, President of Square Enix:

"E3 was all about next-generation console specs. That's important, but what's also important is the kind of [online] services that will be provided. Microsoft is the only one that presented a service model with Xbox Live. They're one step ahead in that point....Whether we like it or not, [publishers] will need to completely change our corporate structure, development methods, and sales methods. The market will become larger, but [publishers] won't succeed unless they understand the changes in the market, and have the ability to adapt to them. There are only a few major companies in the movie industry. Companies in the game industry will also consolidate into a limited number of major publishers. The appearance of the next-generation game consoles will be the momentum behind the change."

Michihiro Ishizuka, president of Konami’s computer & video games division:

"[We will] provide one or two flagship titles for each machine, which will take advantage of their capabilities as next-generation consoles. Most of the titles that don't require full use of technology will be released on multi-platforms, including PC. We will need to narrow down on the number of titles that we release. We will release a new Metal Gear as a flagship title for the PS3 and are developing an original product for the Xbox 360. On April, we absorbed our three development studios that are listed in the stock market, which has allowed us to prepare for development for the next-generation consoles. Our aim has been to create a framework where we can share our knowledge base, and strengthen on the development towards major titles."

Yoichi Haraguchi, company vice president of Namco:

"Our business merger with Bandai will allow use to supplement each other. Our game genres do not collide, so our core users won't overlap. One thing that's very clear about the next generation of consoles is that development costs will be extreme. Up until now, we spent a lot of effort drawing the graphics, but with the next-generation consoles, everything--such as explosions--will all be done with calculations. The method of development will change. The volume of programs will increase, so porting titles to other hardware will become difficult. Characters' [facial] expressions will be more realistic, so if the translations are wrong, it will look weird to people playing in other languages. The localization will cost more than before. From our past experiences [with consoles], we believe that one winner will take all in the Japanese market, and the publishers will have to go with that winner. The American market will be a race between multiple consoles. The European market will fall between Japan and America."

Masanao Maeda, senior executive manager of Sega:

"There's no mistake that development costs will increase for next-generation consoles. But Sega doesn't see it as a big risk. The competitive landscape will dramatically change during the shift to the next generation consoles, so it will be a big chance [for us]. Sega stopped producing its own console in 2001, so we were about two years late in entering as a game publisher. That had its effects until the end. This time, it will be a chance for us since we can start from the beginning. For the past number of years, we have released Japanese-developed games in the overseas market. While some of the games were hits, many Japanese games don't sell overseas. Our basic strategy is to develop games for the overseas market. We have already established a structure for that. We aim to become one of the top three [publishers] in both America and Japan. It may be seen as difficult, but Sega is still an acknowledged brand in America, so it should be a smooth road."

Kiyoshi Komatsu, president of Koei:

"The entertainment industry will grow with the appearance of the next-generation consoles. When looking at a worldwide scale, the market will continue to expand. In addition to Japan, America, and Europe, the market in China, India, and Eastern Europe will grow in the future. We should welcome a situation where there's multiple gaming platforms, including PC. Hardware makers and software makers grow up the market together, but their interests can clash with each other, such as with licensing fees. It's not a good environment when one [console] maker has monopoly over the market. It's best to have a situation where publishers have the option of choosing another console if one company isn't favorable. Development costs will rise with the appearance of the next generation consoles, but there's no way that raising costs by 10 times will also raise profits by 10 times. Therefore, it's important to have control over development. We have the knowledge required for development management, and in addition to that, we will also strengthen our development in overseas [studios]. Whereas other publishers will need to increase their development funding by two times, we will create a [development] structure where we can do it with just an increase of 10 percent."
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06...s_6128306.html

NC-36 06-28-05 08:38 PM

Trip Hawkins tried to sell 3DO's for $700 to begin with, chanting the same "people will buy it anyway" garbage Kutaragi is spewing. Sega tried selling Saturns at $400 apiece and started drowning in red ink.

Mind you, I am a Sony fan. I plan on skipping the XB360 launch and waiting for the PS3 as my first console of the next generation. I've bought Sony first on the last 2 generations and have no complaints. But if Sony really thinks they are gonna get me to pay a dime more than $300 for a PS3 they are very much mistaken. I'll gladly pay $350 (or less) for a XB360 and a copy of Halo 3 on PS3 launch day just to spite them.

Chris_D 06-28-05 10:20 PM

Looking at the overall package that Sony is deliverying I don't think they'll have too much trouble pushing it at $400 in the first year. I suspect this would even hit the limit of their supply. And if blueray comes out on top then it will be all the easier.

joshd2012 06-29-05 06:57 AM

Mind you, that prediction is from analysts... you know... the same ones that predicted the PSP would be $300-$450! Reports out of Japan earlier on the subject (which I have in the FAQ) suggest they are aiming for the same release price as the PS1 and PS2. I can see them charging a little more than that here because of the horrendous exchange rates, but $400 is not going to happen unless 360 really bombs.

The Franchise 06-29-05 10:13 AM

A) Yes exchange rates are poor (the US dollar blows right now) which will drive import prices up

B) Haven't you all learned by now to never ever trust anything an analyst says? They know about as much as you and I know.

joshd2012 06-29-05 02:06 PM

New Anandtech article about CPUs in next gen consoles:

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2461

This is a follow-up to the article from a few days ago on general expectations of the consoles.

Edit: Pretty much says that Xbox 360 CPU will only be twice as fast as the Xbox CPU, and that Cell will not fair much better. Developers are wishing that they would have just stuck an AMD 64 in there. All developers like the GPUs and they should be very similar.

Unless Sony or MS has something up their sleve, this could turn out to be a disappointing generation.

The Franchise 06-29-05 02:34 PM

Good read on the PS2, PSP and PS3 with SCEE chief Dave Reeves

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/nid/985/...84bb76d506d8bc

ps. Didn't "analysts" say the the PS2 would cost $500? Someone with more time than me should look into that.

Chris_D 06-29-05 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
New Anandtech article about CPUs in next gen consoles:

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2461

This is a follow-up to the article from a few days ago on general expectations of the consoles.

Edit: Pretty much says that Xbox 360 CPU will only be twice as fast as the Xbox CPU, and that Cell will not fair much better. Developers are wishing that they would have just stuck an AMD 64 in there. All developers like the GPUs and they should be very similar.

btw Josh, anandtech seem to have pulled this article already (possibly due to feedback after it went to air?). Shame, I didn't get to read it, but I have been reading some of the commentary on it on another message board.

joshd2012 06-30-05 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Chris_D
btw Josh, anandtech seem to have pulled this article already (possibly due to feedback after it went to air?). Shame, I didn't get to read it, but I have been reading some of the commentary on it on another message board.

They pulled both of their articles of the consoles. I think the official stance is that they are protecting their anon source, with an unofficial stance being that a bunch of tech sites called them out on the articles.

If you still want to read them, I have mirrored them here: Mirror

Chris_D 06-30-05 05:45 PM

Thanks for that Josh. Comments posted on other thread.

joshd2012 07-05-05 07:14 AM

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=9908

Confirmation that you will beable to surf the web and use a standard keyboard and mouse through the USB ports. Hirai said that they are working on an online structure, but that they are also working on great content. Commenting on Microsoft, "they seem to really put their eggs in the online basket" and "Talking about online is great, like I said, I'm not belittling it. But there are other important aspects that one cannot forget to ensure success to move on and transition to the next generation."

The Franchise 07-05-05 03:48 PM

Kaz interview on 1up.com

http://consolewar.1up.com/do/feature...=0&cId=3141808

joshd2012 07-11-05 07:41 AM

The router fuctionality has been dropped due to costs concerns:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10033

Centurion 07-11-05 08:17 AM

I think this is a smart move, though I'm not surprised.

I'm actually anticipating a few more of the ports to be scrapped from the final build. Perhaps they will use one proprietary port with multi-functionality (i.e. S-video, RCA jacks, optical audio, etc.) which is common for a 'videogame' console.

Lest we forget, the PS3 is not being marketed as a 'videogame' console by Mr. Kutaragi. -rolleyes-

joshd2012 07-11-05 03:01 PM

We finally have some decent media:

http://www.ninjatheory.com/blinkblin...d=38&Itemid=61

Each screen is presented in 1080p - so there is at least one game aiming for this standard that we know of. These are captures from the E3 demo vid, which is running in realtime off the machine (not prerendered graphics). I was going to post a beautiful example here, but at 1080, its not even remotely logical. Check out the link for the screens.

The Franchise 07-12-05 10:31 AM

From 1up.com - This is relevant because lack of support in Japan will be a big deciding factor for the next generation. 2% interest is not good for XBOX360 but is good for PS3


No Love for XBox 360 in Japan
Recent poll shows low interest in Microsoft's console.
by Jane Pinckard, 07/11/2005
45 of 63 users recommend this story.

Elsewhere we can write in agonizing detail about the extreme conservatism in Japanese gamers' tastes and how the Japanese games market is in dire need of resuscitation, but for now I would like to point out that a poll conducted by a Japanese news service among 1,000 gamers found that only two percent of respondents picked the Xbox 360 as their most-wanted Next Gen console. The leader, by an order of magnitide, was PS3, with a fan base of sixty percent.

It's not such a big surprise that Japanese gamers are not psyched about the Xbox 360, even after its redesigned prettification and despite some high-profile defections (Itagaki, Mizuguchi, and Sakaguchi just to name a few). Japanese consumers never really got into the Xbox: about 460,000 units have sold in Japan since launch. To put that number in perspective, think about this: the PS2 sold twice that...in the first two days.

The reason Japanese gamers find the PS3 more appealing is partly the massive brand recognition Sony has, of course; but it's also probably got a lot to do with the sheer numbers of sequels, franchises, and re-makes that Sony has at its power to command. Read the survey data: eighty percent want well-known franchises; 71.2 want RPGs. You're looking at another long string of repetitive Square Enix titles, my friend. As much as we might complain about lack of innovative game titles in the West, Japan has it even worse. Some of the quirkiest, most fascinating games ever made come from Japanese game studios, but they wither under the unending domination of Dragon Quest. A new console launch is not going to change that trend any time soon. Too bad.

Josh H 07-12-05 10:38 AM

Not surprising, I'm American, and lack of Japanese support is why I regret my X-box purchase and why I'm not considering a 360 unless things change dramatically.

jeffdsmith 07-12-05 11:15 AM

When MS released the Xbox they made the exact same mistake American car makers made thirty years ago when they tried to introduce cars there, they were more powerful, but bigger and awkward for their culture. Despite their reinvention through offering cars that are as high in quality, similar size, and even out perform their Japanese counterparts, American makers are still hard pressed to sell automobiles in Japan.

Some of this can be attribuited to Japanese loyalty in "buying Japanese" (similar to what America used to experience) but its more directly tied to Japanese culture of not forgetting past transgressions.

Microsoft has set themselves a very difficult battle in Japan to win over gamers there, a battle they could have made much easier had they paid attention to history and tailored the original xbox with more global appeal.

The Franchise 07-12-05 03:49 PM

Nvidia's Chief Scientist David Kirk on RSX

RSX and the PlayStation 3

For those that don't know, if you've been living under a rock for the last few months, the graphics processor in the PlayStation 3 is NVIDIA-designed and is called RSX. How does it compare next to the 7800?

"The two products share the same heritage, the same technology. But RSX is faster," said Kirk.

But for how much longer, we wonder? With the PlayStation 3 not due until March 2006, won't the next generation of PC graphics be here by then? "At the time consoles are announced, they are so far beyond what people are used to, it's unimaginable," David comments. "At the time they're shipped, there's a narrower window until the next PC architecture." In other words, RSX looks incredible now, but when it launches, there'll be a smaller time until PC looks better.

"However, what consoles have is a huge price advantage." And 'huge' is the appropriate word: pricing is still to be announed by Sony, but Playstation 3 could debut at £399 - the price of a 7800GTX board, yet offering so much more.

Whilst their relationship with Microsoft has become publicly tenuous, what about NVIDIA's relationship with their new console partner?

"So far our relationship with Sony has been great. We have a much closer relationship and share a much broader vision for the future of computing and graphics.

"When we came together a few years ago, we found a vision and experience that we shared. It sounds cliched, but Japanese companies are often trying to create a vision and make the technology follow that, not the other way round. We believed in that."


"Our commonality with Sony has led to a number of product areas that go beyond PlayStation 3. The business deal is structured so that both companies benefit. It's a really good realtionship."

So I put it to David that there might be more to come from Sony and NVIDIA: "The deal goes beyond PS3. The future is looking good."

What does this mean exactly? Until we get some concrete details, it could in theory translate to NVIDIA-powered graphics in just about any suitable device that Sony make: Sony VAIO desktop and notebook computers would be an obvious opportunity; another distinct possibility is NVIDIA GoForce wireless media processors (WMP) inside future SonyEricsson mobile phones.

A rank outsider would be NVIDIA Inside for a future replacement for the PSP, but we should stress that this is all pure speculation. What we do know is that NVIDIA design kick-ass graphics chips and Sony make some of the most desirable consumer electronics available. Put those two together and you have quite a potent combination - we look forward to seeing what they come up with.

http://www.bit-tech.net/content_imag...ew/unreal3.jpg

I added the pic from the article since we hadn't had one in a while!

joshd2012 07-18-05 07:14 AM

Some new rumors of things to be announced at the PlayStation Meeting:


* Sony will announce a 'value bundle' for the PS3 that includes a hard drive, similar in concept to the PSP's Value Pack

* Namco will announce two titles for PS3's Japanese launch

* Koei will announce Dynasty Warriors 6 and Nobunaga's Ambition for the PS3

* Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Quest/Warrior IX to be PS3 exclusives

* Japanese and United States PS3 launches to be simultaneous in late Spring of 06; Europe and Australia to see launch in Fall

* Team Ninja developing two titles for PS3

* Resident Evil series being developed on PS3 and PSP

* Silent Hill 5 in development

* Mistwalker/Sony surprise announcement (not Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey related)

* Level 5 to develop exclusively for Sony

* Forty-five new PSP titles to launch by Fall '06

* SquareEnix developing two additional PSP titles

* PS3 and PSP will use the same online network

Some of these are obviously true - like the last one (it was already spoken about many times) - but some would be huge surprises. I'll guess we'll have to wait and see on the 21st.

jeffdsmith 07-18-05 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
* Forty-five new PSP titles to launch by Fall '06


That means Sony published titles right?

joshd2012 07-18-05 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by jeffdsmith
That means Sony published titles right?

No, they get predricted release dates from manufacturers and are basing this number on what they have been told. If you look at old PSP movies, there was one which had a list of like 120 titles by 2007. And it counts up from the first PSP title revealed, all the way til the 120th (or whatever number it was) showing some clips or screens all the way.

That was from TGS 04, IIRC.

Edit: Its here: http://www.playstation.jp/tgs2004/tv.html Called "Count-up"

The Franchise 07-18-05 10:08 AM

Getting Mistwalker on board and Team Ninja will be a big blow to XBOX 360's game "exclusivity". Plus getting FF13 will be a big boost!

Of course these are only rumors.

I also heard they may make cosmetic changes to the actual chasis and drop some features like the 2nd HDMI port. Fine by me as long as the costs are kept in check.

joshd2012 07-18-05 01:11 PM

From the team who brought you The Getaway comes an exclusive PS3 game titled L.A. Noire

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10180

The Franchise 07-18-05 02:38 PM

More rumors (read with a scoop of salt handy). The source is some "insider" on a japanese forum:

In regards to the Mistwalker deal, he said he's unsure to what exact context the rumblings he's been hearing refer to. He says they may be in reference to the supposed deal that Sony and Mistwalker had for BD and LO prior to MS swooping in and paying for the games dev. He did state however that Mistwalker is NOT in any way exclusive to MS on consoles, despite what MS has said. BD and LO though have 0% chance of ever hitting PS3, even a few years from now.

All the info he posted has turned out to be the key announcements Sony is prepping to build hype for the PS3; ie. Sony will likely spread them out so as to not throw all their eggs into one basket. Thus, don't expect all these points to hit the conference anymore. Many may be postponed til TGS. The thread has now turned into a sort of general upcoming Sony announcements thread, and many are speculating what will be announced at PM, TGS, etc.

One of the two Namco titles is definitely Ridge Racer 6. No surprise there. The other is supposedly not a Tekken title.

It is looking more and more likely that Tecmo does not want Team Ninja to remain exclusive to a single console this coming gen in order to increase revenues and brand awareness.

Square Enix announcing FF and DQ being PS3 exclusive likely will not happen now (however they will still be exclusive), as Sony feels it is more significant to simply let it happen, as if it is a common occurence that happens every gen. They feel announcing it may seem as if they earned or bought the exclusive rights, whereas just letting them release makes it seem as if DQ and FF will always be PlayStation only properties.

Someone asked why Konami would bother releasing Winning Eleven in Europe (as Pro Evolution) and not in Japan, and he was reminded that Winning Eleven 9 is releasing exclusively on PS2 next month, despite Pro Evo 5 hitting Xbox in Europe later this year. The decision to keep WE exclusive to PS2 and PS3 was Konami's, Sony did not buy the rights.

From Software is likely going to port all its 360 games to PS3, including Chrome Hounds and eNchant aRm.

Sony is going to market the PSP and PS3 hand-in-hand as two companion electronics when the PS3 releases, and they are going to offer levels of connectivity between the devices beyond just gaming.

Sony will announce that PS3 titles will not be playable at TGS. They may plan a special event in early 2006 to display playable titles to the public.

Sony is confident their relationship with Game Republic will continue.

SCEI is aiming to lessen the amount of money they spend to gain exclusive contracts to increase profitability, and instead maintain their relationships through improved development tools, developer support and game development assistance.

Almost all of SCEI internals studios and second party developers have now shifted development to the PS3. SCEA has done the same, however SCEE is more evenly balanced between PS2 and PS3.

Sony is contemplating offering reduced royalty fees for original properties after the success of Nintendogs.

The PS3 console design is being slightly redesigned so it looks its best when upright, not laying flat. The slot loading drive is a key feature added to allow the upright position to be more convenient.

Sony is looking to differentiate the use of memory sticks and the HDD as memory sticks = game/online content, HDD = media content. They feel 1GB and larger sticks will retail for as low as the price of PS2 memory cards when they were first released.

Everybody's Golf 5 to be announced for Japanese launch.

It is rumored within Sony (although the insider thinks its a bit far-fetched, and personally doesn't believe its true) that 2 different internal SCEI teams are co-developing 2 PS3 titles with... are you ready?... Nintendo EAD. Yeah, I know. I don't believe it either.

The PS3 launch will be the largest launch software wise in the history of the Japanese games industry. Sony hopes to have over 40 titles available.

joshd2012 07-18-05 02:52 PM

I always saw the Memory Stick thing, but I just have a hard time believing it. Even if a 1 GB Memory Stick is on $35 when the system launches, will that be enough to hold all the online content out there? I guess it could be, but you definitely would run out of space after a few games.

I'm still hoping for a bundled hard drive.

joshd2012 07-18-05 05:50 PM

http://www.eetasia.com/ARTICLES/2005...UN_INT_WK2.HTM

Interview with Ken about the Cell processor and his idea of its future.

Chris_D 07-18-05 10:49 PM

Microsoft never said that Mistwalker was exclusive to 360, and that was always clear to me anyway.

* Sony will announce a 'value bundle' for the PS3 that includes a hard drive, similar in concept to the PSP's Value Pack

Just make the HD a standard feature, duh Sony.

* Namco will announce two titles for PS3's Japanese launch

woo!

* Koei will announce Dynasty Warriors 6 and Nobunaga's Ambition for the PS3

woo!

* Japanese and United States PS3 launches to be simultaneous in late Spring of 06; Europe and Australia to see launch in Fall

Possibly a mistake shafting Europe yet again (nearly as big as the Japanese market).

* Silent Hill 5 in development

I would have liked to have seen another on the ps2 hardware, but woo!

* Mistwalker/Sony surprise announcement (not Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey related)

Surprise for who :p.

* PS3 and PSP will use the same online network

What, the internet? But seriously, Sony needs to start putting some serious work into this area, their efforts so far have been an after thought.

Chris_D 07-18-05 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
I always saw the Memory Stick thing, but I just have a hard time believing it. Even if a 1 GB Memory Stick is on $35 when the system launches, will that be enough to hold all the online content out there? I guess it could be, but you definitely would run out of space after a few games.

I'm still hoping for a bundled hard drive.

I agree, even the current level of xbox live downloads would start to fill up a 1 gig stick. I don't really want to go back to the ps1 days of having a pile of memory cards for all my games.

joshd2012 07-19-05 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Chris_D
What, the internet? But seriously, Sony needs to start putting some serious work into this area, their efforts so far have been an after thought.

I disagree with that. We know there will be a "PlayStation Network" which will encompass PS2, PS3 and PSP. Beyond that, everything has been kept secret (hopefully to be revealed at TGS). We know they are working hard at a solution - even if we don't know what that solution is.

joshd2012 07-20-05 07:10 AM

http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up46829.jpg

Resident Evil 5 Confirmed for PS3 and Xbox360

kvrdave 07-20-05 06:06 PM

Here is some bad news if it turns out to be true....

The "bundled" hd or anything that isn't standard will make 3rd party people think twice. Already Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is rumored to having been pulled from the PS3. Fortunately, Sony has time to figure this out.

Also, currently the drive used is a blue ray 1x drive. That is a transfer rate of 6.75 mb/sec compared to the 12x dvd drive for MS which will do 16.65 mb/sec. If the dvd is plenty big for most games (and I think it is) sony needs to put a faster drive in by launch or this will do nothing but hurt them.

Again, plenty of time to figure these things out, but Sony seems to do some odd things at time. I can't imagine a machine with DVI out and no standard HD.

joshd2012 07-20-05 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by kvrdave
Here is some bad news if it turns out to be true....

The "bundled" hd or anything that isn't standard will make 3rd party people think twice. Already Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is rumored to having been pulled from the PS3. Fortunately, Sony has time to figure this out.

Also, currently the drive used is a blue ray 1x drive. That is a transfer rate of 6.75 mb/sec compared to the 12x dvd drive for MS which will do 16.65 mb/sec. If the dvd is plenty big for most games (and I think it is) sony needs to put a faster drive in by launch or this will do nothing but hurt them.

Again, plenty of time to figure these things out, but Sony seems to do some odd things at time. I can't imagine a machine with DVI out and no standard HD.

Where are you getting those b/s rates from?


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