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fujishig 04-20-05 06:31 PM

And people were complaining about 39.99-49.99 games... :)

I kind of understand House of Flying Daggers being a little more, since it comes out on DVD the same day, but the others? Maybe it's so that the 19.99 titles seem like a bargain in comparison?

If they released Star Wars, a New Hope in it's original form and OAR, unavailable even on DVD, I doubt it would sell in UMD form for this price. Though I can't wait for the 100 dollar Season 1 of Simpsons on UMD.

I'd be interested to see if ANYONE buys these two titles for that price. This might sell 0 copies nationally.

mrmagoo 04-20-05 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tarantino
We got in Pirates of the Carribean and Kill Bill, each at $29.99. My initial reaction was to make sure the prices were right, and they were...what a horrible rip off.




$29.99!!!!

If you dont mind me asking, what store do you work for?

mrmagoo 04-20-05 08:25 PM

Ebay Ripoffs
 
Talk about a royal :hump: job!!!!! Check "sellers other items" he has a few more "advance copy's" of other titles. People like this make me sick, people that buy stuff from people like this make me sicker.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

tidwell 04-20-05 08:47 PM

Despite my bitching about the prices ($30!!!), I think I might crack and get a $13 movie or two. Luckily, I'm poor, so they should come down by the time I start buying them.

Daryl 04-20-05 09:10 PM

Out of all of the first titles - I was actually semi-interested in buying Kill Bill if I could find it for $12 or so, but $29?? I'll stick with the homemade version on my memory stick.

PerryD 04-20-05 10:42 PM

I wasted time stopping in Circuit City to get Hellboy Director's Cut and Pirates of the Caribbean, along with House of Flying Daggers on DVD. They didn't have any of them in stock. UMD-wise, they only had Once Upon a Time in Mexico (for $12.99 I guess), and Kill Bill 1 (for $24.99). Rather than waste any more of my time, I went ahead and ordered the UMD movies from Amazon, $13.97 for Hellboy, and $20.99 for Pirates, free shipping, no tax. Good enough.

Draven 04-20-05 10:44 PM

I can't remember what I just saw at Target, but I think all the UMDs were priced at at least 19.99. I remember seeing HoFD and Resident Evil at least.

Does Sony want this format to fail?

Tarantino 04-21-05 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by mrmagoo
$29.99!!!!

If you dont mind me asking, what store do you work for?

Best Buy...

jediwicz 04-21-05 06:44 AM

Picked up Hellboy at Target for 12.99 and Once Upon a Time in Mexico at Best Buy for 14.99. It's nice to be able to watch movies at work but some of those titles are overpriced, 29.99 is steep. I would have bought Kill Bill, Pirates and House of Flying Daggers if they were cheaper.

jeffdsmith 04-21-05 09:45 AM

The cost may be high, but be glad you arn't paying Japanese prices of $40 a pop. (Unless they dropped, havn't checked recently)

kakihara1 04-21-05 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by jediwicz
Picked up Hellboy at Target for 12.99 and Once Upon a Time in Mexico at Best Buy for 14.99. It's nice to be able to watch movies at work but some of those titles are overpriced, 29.99 is steep. I would have bought Kill Bill, Pirates and House of Flying Daggers if they were cheaper.

So uhh......how about getting me a job where you work? Getting paid to play games and watch movies is right up my alley.

darkside 04-21-05 11:44 AM

I played Polarium for an hour at my desk yesterday so I'm no better of an employee. :lol:

I'm confused why the Disney releases are $29.99. Why bother releasing UMD movies at all? Is the licensing fee super high on the UMD format?

I'm looking forward to people trading these movies in at places like GameStop and GameRush. Buy two get one free used UMD movies could be very cool.

fujishig 04-21-05 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by kakihara1
So uhh......how about getting me a job where you work? Getting paid to play games and watch movies is right up my alley.

Well, it's not exactly the same, but if you want to watch TV for a living...

http://abc.go.com/primetime/jimmykimmel/tvwatcher.html

discostu1337 04-21-05 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Daryl
Out of all of the first titles - I was actually semi-interested in buying Kill Bill if I could find it for $12 or so, but $29?? I'll stick with the homemade version on my memory stick.


Slightly off topic, but how did you get Kill Bill ripped to a memory stick. I tried so many times to rip the Crazy 88's scene, but it never works. I can get the .vob off the dvd fine, but when I encode to mp4, it just locks up my PSP. Everything else I ripped works fine. I even tried 2 copies of Kill Bill on 2 different PC's with numerous encoding apps.

fujishig 04-22-05 06:45 PM

Ok, maybe I'm just dense, but here's an article (note it's from a message board, and I can't find the original source, but it seems legit)
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=44335

Here's some excerpts:
"Thirty percent of our stock has sold through on House of Flying Daggers," Virgin manager Bart Saunt said. "We'll have to re-order."

Studios have been relatively conservative with their shipments of PSP movie discs, which use the small Universal Media Disc format. Sources indicate Sony shipped collectively about 500,000 units of its first five titles--Hellboy, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, XXX and Flying Daggers. (Spider-Man 2 was included in PSP hardware bundles.)

For standard DVDs, studios typically service millions of units of each new major release to stores.

About 15% of Sony's total PSP movie stock sold at retail in their first week on shelves, according to industry estimates. Buena Vista's UMDs of Kill Bill: Vol. 1 and Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl also were reported as selling briskly.

........................................................................


Ok, those were the two I thought for sure would bomb because of the ridiculous price. I guess the stores ordered modestly, but still, who's buying this stuff? (no offense if it's people on this board, btw...)

darkside 04-22-05 07:19 PM

From what I have seen the Sony titles sold very well, however, the Buena Vista ones are stacked up in the stores I found them. I doubt they sold at all. I honestly can't see anyone paying $24.99-$29.99 for a UMD movie when the Sony ones are half the price.

PerryD 04-22-05 09:38 PM

I was browsing on DVD empires page, and found a slew of new Sony UMD releases that I didn't know about:

5/24 Are We There Yet?, Charlies Angels (oh, yea, guilty pleasure!)
5/31 Hollow Man, Boogeyman
6/14 Spider-Man: New Animated Series, Daddy Day Care, Hitch
6/28 Grudge, Anacondas

This plus the Lion's Gate releases on 6/7 (Terminator 2, Saw, Van Wilder, Punisher, Open Water), and Disney's 5/3 releases (National Treasure, Hero, Reign of Fire), UMD movies are supported in much greater quantity that I would have ever imagined.

I'm not sure why Sony hasn't announced the first Spider-Man movie on UMD yet, or how about Men in Black, Fifth Element, Starship Troopers, or Leon (!) I'd definitely buy any of those for the $12.99 sale price.

Daryl 04-22-05 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by discostu1337
Slightly off topic, but how did you get Kill Bill ripped to a memory stick. I tried so many times to rip the Crazy 88's scene, but it never works. I can get the .vob off the dvd fine, but when I encode to mp4, it just locks up my PSP. Everything else I ripped works fine. I even tried 2 copies of Kill Bill on 2 different PC's with numerous encoding apps.

full disclosure: it was a, ahem, "copy", of the Japanese unrated version

Gizmo 04-22-05 11:41 PM

The only title of intrest is Spiderman the Animated Series. Most of the movies will retail for atleast $24.99.

amped 04-22-05 11:50 PM

More releases announced by Buena Vista:

June 21st

* King Arthur: Extended Unrated Director's Cut
* Hostage
* Cursed
* Tron

July 19th

* Kill Bill: Vol. 2
* Armageddon
* Gone in 60 Seconds Unrated Director's Cut
* From Dusk Till Dawn

Also,


Daniel Silverberg, New Business Development Executive Director of Buena Vista, mentioned that the majority of the earlier UMD releases will be those of director's cuts/unrated versions, and that an eventual price drop of the PSP hardware by the end of the year would allow the company to shift its focus on more of a younger audience with the release of animated titles.

Silverberg went on to say that The Incredibles may see a release onto UMD format in time for Christmas.
http://discuss.mobiledeviant.com/sho...=4465#post4465

Edison 04-23-05 08:36 AM

I would like to see multi-packs at some point especially with the "day & date" release titles. Where you can buy the DVD or a DVD/UMD pack for like ~$10 more. I noticed they announced one title in japan like this, and it seems like a good idea.

darkside 04-23-05 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Edison
I would like to see multi-packs at some point especially with the "day & date" release titles. Where you can buy the DVD or a DVD/UMD pack for like ~$10 more. I noticed they announced one title in japan like this, and it seems like a good idea.

This is what I'm hoping for. I could definitely go for a DVD/UMD bundle for $10 extra. However, $24.99 for UMD movies is just not going to happen. The prices should keep dropping though the longer the PSP is out. Not to mention stores will eventually clearance out all the expensive titles that don't sell.

amped 04-23-05 10:44 AM

It seems that the movie umds are selling well:


APRIL 22 | Retailers say PlayStation Portable game software is selling as well as expected, but movie titles for play on the handheld console also are going great guns.

The software sales are considered especially strong considering that PSP hardware hasn't leaped off shelves as quickly as projected.

"PSP achieved a solid tie ratio of 1.7 to 1 [games to system purchases] in the first month after availability," estimated Edward Williams, senior VP at investment firm Harris Nesbitt. "This exceeds the launch tie ratios of Game Boy Advance and Nintendo DS [and] is equal to the initial tie-in ratio for the PlayStation 2."

The first wave of PSP movies launched April 19, comprised of just five titles from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment and two from Buena Vista Home Entertainment. But Musicland, Best Buy and Virgin Entertainment Group reported unit sales are exceeding projections.

"Thirty percent of our stock has sold through on House of Flying Daggers," Virgin manager Bart Saunt said. "We'll have to re-order."

Studios have been relatively conservative with their shipments of PSP movie discs, which use the small Universal Media Disc format. Sources indicate Sony shipped collectively about 500,000 units of its first five titles--Hellboy, Once Upon a Time in Mexico, Resident Evil: Apocalypse, XXX and Flying Daggers. (Spider-Man 2 was included in PSP hardware bundles.)

For standard DVDs, studios typically service millions of units of each new major release to stores.

About 15% of Sony's total PSP movie stock sold at retail in their first week on shelves, according to industry estimates. Buena Vista's UMDs of Kill Bill: Vol. 1 and Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl also were reported as selling briskly.
http://discuss.mobiledeviant.com/showthread.php?t=656

Edison 04-23-05 12:29 PM

I know at work (EB) we got an intial shipment of 1 of everything except OUaTiM which we received 2, and we have sold through everything except 1 OUaTiM. We have already restocked about half of the titles. Keep in mind also we don't match prices, and ours are priced retail at $19.99, $27.99 (House of Flying Daggers), and $29.99 (BV titles).

fujishig 04-25-05 04:19 PM

So people actually paid 29.99 for these? They weren't just stolen or something? And these people knew that it wasn't some kind of Kill Bill videogame they were getting instead? This is really amazing to me... 12.99 I can understand places selling, but full retail? Granted, only one copy of each, and maybe some rich guy bought all of them or something but still...


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