New Logitech Xbox + PS2 Wireless Controllers available!
 

It seems the new and improved Logitech Wireless Controllers are appearing at stores.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...CONTENTID=8182

I just got back from WalMart where they had them for only $40, instead of the retail $50. I will report back later on it.

Well, I just played Metal Arms for about an hour, and Project Gotham Racing for about 40 minutes. I am very happy with this controller. If it does even close to its expected 50+ hours w/ vibration on (100+ without), then I don't see myself using the wired controller any time in the near future.

That said, it isn't perfect. The digital pad seems very flimsy; I much prefer the original d-pad, even though that one isn't very good either. I noticed that the triggers allow for less depression, but they make up for this by being a little bit tighter. I don't really see that as being a problem, just a small adjustment.

I did not notice any lag or loss of feedback while using the pad. I also have to say that the vibration is just as good, if not better than the original pad.

I also like the ergonomics of this pad more than the S-Controller, it feels more comfortable in my hands.

For $40, this controller is fantastic. I am eagerly looking forward to their PS2 version, that should be out shortly.

Have you tried it on Live yet? $40 for this controller sounds like a good deal. I would have liked to see a built in battery pack with a charging station. Keep us posted.

Pics:D

I was playing PGR2 on Live with it. I wasn't using a headset though. It comes with a base station to plug in headset.

OK, since you asked I'll oblige.
http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/shareI...Yn7zYuZYlY7oXx http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/shareI...Yn78P0qho7a8kh http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/shareI...Y57880C7EL78lL
http://www.gamezone.com/cgi-bin/band...23716_XB_1.jpg
Damn, you flashburn, you made me spend unnecessarily today. :D
I was all set to get the Hip Gear controller from Fry's with a $19.99 rain check when I read about this. I went to Wal Mart and that thing is so damned beautiful I couldn't resist. I guess for $40 it's a good deal, but I certainly didn't need it. I'm really impressed so far after a couple of hours. I was concerned that it would feel awkward with that left stick so high on the pad, but it works fine. I like the dual sticks more than on the controller S -- they're rounded and rubberized like a PS2 Dual Shock, not dimpled like an S. Thay have a nice amount of resistance, unlike many third party controllers. The triggers are smaller slightly, but they have good travel and resistance. Gotta agree about the D-pad, I don't like that at all. It's raised and that makes it less sturdy and responsive (fortunately you don't use it that much except in fighting games, and I have a stick for them). The buttons are pretty good, but ever so slightly clicky compared to the S. I like the placement of the black and white buttons much more than the S; they're much easiter to reach. I was concerned they'd be too easy to hit accidently, but there's a little protective ridge that seems to do the trick. It's weird not to have an on/of switch, but I guess the auto-off feature works well enough. (Maybe that's how the Wavebird works as well, I don't know since I don't have one)
I was shocked at how light the controller is, even with batteries. It must weigh a couple more ounces than an S, but you wouldn't really notice a difference. The rumble is strong, but it does feel "different" than the S. I love that there's an easy button to turn the vibration off -- a great idea in any controller, especially a wireless one. Overall, I'm really impressed so far.

Looks nice, I might have to upgrade.

I have the older version which makes the original MS controller look small. The old one is extremely large but I have large hands so it was'nt a big issue but for some games I like using S-Type size controllers.

So the new one is smaller? I found the original was a nice balance between the S and original monster, size wise.

I've used mine for almost a year and a half. Wouldn't go with anything else(wired). I might have to check this one out though.

what does the receiver unit look like on this new controller? pics of it please?

Ok. It actually looks pretty cool with translucent green plastic on the front and top button.
http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/shareI...Yg8h8Nd7jUz7AU http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/shareI...YZ8kPEgU47kaLh

And yes, the controller is considerably smaller than the older model.

I would really like one of these, but I don't know if I can break my lack of trust for 3rd party gear.

Thanks fot the PICS!


I heading to walmart and get me 2 controllers.:)

According to their website the product is "approved by Microsoft". So I'd think while this is a third party item, like the Logitech USB Headset and the Xbox Music Mixer Microphone (made by Mad Catz), this is a high-quality licensed product

edit: BTW, my WalMart also had the new Logitech wireless PS2 controller. It was almost exactly the same size as the Xbox one (ie larger than the Dual Shock). It also looked well made, but without the color coordinating plastic accents, somehow looked less "cool". Same price, $39.99.

I have never had any problems with Logitech gear. They make good products IMO. Just with they would make a force feedback wheel for the xbox.

How is the button responsiveness? I tried the other ones and the buttons didn't seem to react quickly enough for me. I play only sports games, so its pretty important. Thanks for opinions!!!

Crap! I didn't really look. I guess I will be heading back over there soon. I know I will still have to use my AirStyle and the wired pad, since the Digital pad on the PS2 model is just like the Xbox pad. They really should of just stuck with a similiar design for the D-Pad.

If the digital pad didn't suck so much, this would almost be as good as a Wavebird.

Ditto.

Plus I just can't see paying $40-50 for a third party wireless, when Nintendo can sell the wavebird for $30-35.

Sure this has rumble, but IMO rumble's just a useless gimmic and annoys me most of the time, so that's not a factor for me.

I really wish MS and Sony would get on the ball and put out first party wireless controllers. You know they would be high quality, and they could keep the exact same layout, so there would be no adusting to different d-pads, less sensitive triggers and so on.

Well if you look at it that way, Wavebird $35 (originally), Logitech- $40. You are talking about a $5 difference. I'm not a fan of the rumble, but 5 extra bucks is justifiable.

Wavebird was always $30 at Wal-mart, I bought one the day it came out.

So it's $10 difference, for a third party contoller, that will take some getting used to, and from the impressions here isn't quite as good as the first party wired controller (crappy D-pad, triggers are different).

That's enough to keep me from buying, even though I'd love a wireless controller for my other two systems.

I actually think the triggers are better than the S-Controller. But, yeah, the D-Pad sucks.

Looks like I may be trading in my pelican wireless controllers for one of these... Hope they hit my store soon.

I agree with flashburn. The triggers are fine.

I don't use the d-pad all that much so that makes no impact for me. I use it for games that require it as a third pad in addition to the analog ones. i.e. switching weapons or accessing a map or something silly. So I have no qualms with it.

I'm trying to think if I've used my D-Pad on my Xbox games.. maybe for Midway's Arcade pack.. but I know on Sinistar, Robotron, and Smash TV I'm using the analogs.

The D-pad gets used alot in Splinter Cell.

For what? Directing your squad or something? If so I would still consider that is minor.

I just realized that this new one only takes 2 batteries vs. 4 in the original. I use rechargables so it isn't that big a deal to me, but still impressive. I might hit wal-mart tonight.

For turning the night vision on and off and selecting inventory. It works fine for that; I tried it yesterday on SC : PT. I just wouldn't use it for an extreme game like SSX 3 or for a fighting game like SC 2.

And I don't mind the triggers at all, they have a little diffent shap and a little less travel, but they work fine and don't present any problems for either shooting or racing games.

I found the buttons very responsive, but I can't really comment on range since I have a smallish family room. I'll try playing while standing outside this evening. :)

Ahhaha.. SSX 3.. yes.. okay, I've used my D-Pad A LOT. :D

Yep, it only uses 2 AA batteries, and has an estimated life of 100+ hours with no vibration. Not too shabby. At that rate, they will last me about a year.

Logitech also has a mail-in rebate to save $10 each on the Xbox and PS2 wireless controllers, that along with the prices you guys mentioned at Wal-Mart make it a pretty good deal. :)

Here's the Logitech rebate link: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/wh.../US/EN,crid=50

It's the last two rebates on the page and they must be sent in within 30 days of purchase. Expires: Sept. 30, 2004

Nice deal on the rebate. I may have to bite the bullet and get a couple of these. I haven't had sterling experiences with wireless controllers but I tend to trust Logitech. Glad to hear that this unit is getting good reviews.

Just so you know, the part number on the rebate is for the older wirelesss controller not the new one.

rebate - 963279-0403
new controller - 963321-0403

It's actually $5 Dollar Rebate. This applies to the new controller.


The older and bigger one is $10 Dollars Rebate.

Well picked one up last night. I was hoping to PM at Best Buy but they didn't have it. Haven't used it yet, but first thing I noticed was how light this is compared to the original.

And the D-pad is quite 'loose' compared to the original as well. Not sure if that is a good thing or not.

Thanks for the heads up on the rebate. :up: Definite bargain, compared to the $60 I payed for the original when it came out.

I think once I get use to the D-Pad it will be fine.

as far as i can tell, none of the rebates on that link seems valid; the part numbers don't match.

which one are you specifically talking about?

^^ I was getting ready to post the same thing. The precision pictured is the wired version. And the cordless pictured is the original one. Who knows? I may send in the cordless one. If I get lucky, great. If not, oh well, worth a shot.

the d-pad gets used a lot in Shenmue 2. That game requires a lot of precise & timed d-pad inputs for all the quick-timer events. I had to put away my older logitech wireless controller and go back to the original wired S controller for that game. the d-pad on the original logitech wireless is not good.

How is the rumble in the new logitech wireless? How is the range? The older wireless controller from logitech had a huge range of over 30 ft (at least, in my experience). Also the rumble on it was stronger than the rumble on either of the original Microsoft wired controllers - which is pretty awesome for a wireless controller! and I love rumble! hehe

I was talking about the Xbox version. The new controller is actually called:

"Logitech® Precision™ Controller for Xbox®"

It has a $5 Mail In Rebate

here's my understanding.

"Logitech® Precision™ Controller for Xbox®" = wired controller, use rebate at logitech's link part number 963309-0403

"Logitech® Cordless Precision™ Controller for Xbox®" = wireless controller, Logitech® part number 963321-0403 - no rebate

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...S/EN,crid=1579

Yep, nothing to indicate ANY rebates for the new controllers. I'd pick one of these up for $25. Don't need one badly enough to drop $40.