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Old 11-05-03 | 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by Ralph Wiggum
this is going to be a sleek, entertainment device, not just a portable game system.
If that's the case I'll be sticking with the GBA for now.
Old 11-05-03 | 10:06 AM
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Keep in mind this is the concept people and the original may (and probably will) be very different. Anyway, here are the official slides from the presentation by our boy Ken Kutaragi. (modem beware) Gives some insight into what Sony's strategy will be going forward.
Old 11-05-03 | 10:29 AM
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Don't like the looks of it.

I have no interest in a portable playstation anyway though. I love my GBA simply because it's the only place to get new 2D games.

I imagine the PSPs lineup will mirror the psx's, i.e. a bunch of crappy looking, jaggy 3D games.

I have no interest in a entertainment device either. Screen's too small for movies, and I've never gotten into mp3's.
Old 11-05-03 | 10:39 AM
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I think it looks kind of cool for concept art. Its going to be much different from this but from the picture it looks like they are aiming for something really tiny like the GBA SP. Of course the games are the selling point for me, for that I'm still waiting for some screenshots or movies...or anything! I just hope they don't put PSone games on it, they don't age as well as well as 2D games.

Damn, they ditched the all powerful WMD's for UMD's, they must be scaling back or something .
Old 11-05-03 | 11:31 AM
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Sorry I didn't know english wasn't his first language. My bad.

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Old 11-05-03 | 11:35 AM
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That was totally uncalled for. English isn't his first language. Show some maturity and respect.
Old 11-05-03 | 12:35 PM
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While lurking around on that PSP sites message board, I read some things that I didn't notice before. The concept is missing a few key things which have already been confirmed like shoulder buttons and a USB port. The USB port could be hidden on the edge of it, but I don't see where the shoulder buttons could go. I guess this is why it is just a concept and not the final version, eh?
Old 11-05-03 | 12:54 PM
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"Jaggies" [how I hate that term] are not very noticable on a small screen. Have you ever played PS1 games on a small portable DVD screen, the image looks very crisp, and the wash hides the jaggies quite well. I also assume that the PSP processor will employ several techniques the PS2 uses in PS1 emulation, and the the load times will be faster and the image will be sharper.

Either way, it's better than blurry 2d. Sharp, clear, beautiful 2d is a godsend, but the blurry and low detail 2d usually seen on the GBA [of course, many games, mostly Nintendo's first party ones, and the ones from big Japanese developers look great] American made or small Japanese developer made ones. If the PSP can do 2d games like Castlevania SOTN, Megaman 8, and Street Fighter Alpha 3, it'll be great. If it can do 3d RPG's like Xenogears and FFVII. Even better.

Anyways, short live Nintendo, the world needs more than Gameboy. All is well as long as they don't make an Xbox portable.
Old 11-05-03 | 02:02 PM
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Please drop your Nintendo bashing.

The GBA has great 2D graphics. All the good games look sharp and clear, not blurry.

Console bashing isn't allowed here, keep it up and you'll be banned.
Old 11-05-03 | 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle

I imagine the PSPs lineup will mirror the psx's, i.e. a bunch of crappy looking, jaggy 3D games.
You should take your own advice Josh.

Originally posted by Josh Hinkle

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Old 11-05-03 | 02:16 PM
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I'm not bashing the console, the PSX was a first gen 3D system (as was the N64) the graphics sucked.

The GBA is basically a more powerful SNES, thus it's second gen 2D graphics which look pretty good. If the GBA was based on the NES, I'd bitch about it having "crappy looking blocky 2D graphics."

It's not bashing when you state fact, it's bashing when you make up crap like saying GBA games are blurry.
Old 11-05-03 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by noonan4224
You should take your own advice Josh.


I'm really looking forward to this - I didn't realise that the term "concept art" in this case was just a "possible" concept.

I'm betting it will look more like the mock-ups I saw in this months GamePro(?) - which is basically a slightly modified GameBoy Advance SP handheld. It will also retain the established button layout for the controls - that much is known... he says... according to the magazine at least
Old 11-05-03 | 02:25 PM
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Well I wouldn't exactly consider "a bunch of crappy looking, jaggy 3D games" a fact. That sounds much more like an opinion to me. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are/were very happy with PS1's graphics. Why is it okay for you to say that the PS1 has jaggy graphics, but when someone says the GBA has blurry graphics, it's console bashing?

And by the way, just coming out and saying that the graphics for different systems "suck" is indeed the definition of console bashing.
Old 11-05-03 | 02:28 PM
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i like the PSX in the slide show pdf posted above. if it has tivo like capabilities, i may pick that up also.
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Well, maybe "crappy" was out of line, but the PS1's graphics are jaggy, the NES's graphics are blocky, the N64's graphics are blurry. It is opinion whether that bothers you or not, but it is fact.

I mean it's like saying the graphics in Mario Sunshine are colorful. You can't argue with it.

But you're right in that I shouldn't assume everyone hates the PSX's jaggy graphics, and I liked quite a few PSX games.

I just don't think they hold up well. Just like NES games don't hold up well but SNES do. I still play my SNES, and I see myself playing PS2/GC/Xbox games 10 years down the road as well. But I don't still play my NES, and similarly I don't see myself playing PSX/N64 games in the future.

On the otherhand, the GBAs graphics are not blurry. He's free to dislike them, but they aren't blurry.

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Old 11-05-03 | 03:16 PM
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I thought the GBA's graphics were very shiny!!
Old 11-05-03 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by PixyJunket
I thought the GBA's graphics were very shiny!!
Yeah, maybe - but the FACT IS... they're "slinky"
Old 11-05-03 | 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I'm not bashing the console, the PSX was a first gen 3D system (as was the N64) the graphics sucked.

The GBA is basically a more powerful SNES, thus it's second gen 2D graphics which look pretty good. If the GBA was based on the NES, I'd bitch about it having "crappy looking blocky 2D graphics."

It's not bashing when you state fact, it's bashing when you make up crap like saying GBA games are blurry.
ok - now I'm confused...

Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
As I said many times in the past, graphics mean nothing to me.
Old 11-05-03 | 03:55 PM
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By that I mean I won't let "crappy" graphics keep me from enjoying a game.

But I will let it keep me from buying a new system that has Jaggy graphics from last generation. I can play PSX games on my PS2 for that.
Old 11-05-03 | 03:55 PM
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Here an interesting article regarding PSP development and PS3. Skip past the first part regarding the PStwo to get the lowdown. Sounds like next year's E3 will hold a few bombshell (or shall I say megaton!) announcements.
Old 11-05-03 | 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by The Franchise
Here an interesting article regarding PSP development and PS3. Skip past the first part regarding the PStwo to get the lowdown. Sounds like next year's E3 will hold a few bombshell (or shall I say megaton!) announcements.
Old news. Ken already said that they will have a tech demo by March for the Cell and that the PSP would be revealed at E3.
Old 11-05-03 | 05:21 PM
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Either way, it's better than blurry 2d. Sharp, clear, beautiful 2d is a godsend
Yeah I hate when 2D is blurry as well, good thing that isn't a problem on the GBA and GBA SP because of the screen resolution.
Old 11-05-03 | 05:22 PM
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Yeah I hate blurry 2D as well, good thing that isn't a problem on the GBA and GBA SP because of the screen resolution.
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Old 11-05-03 | 05:23 PM
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Yeah I hate when 2D is blurry as well, good thing that isn't a problem on the GBA and GBA SP because of the screen resolution.
My point exactly.
Old 11-05-03 | 09:54 PM
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Screen resolution doesn't really have anything to do with bluriness. The blurriness on older portables (Game Gear, Lynx, the original Game Boy) had little if anything to do with the screen resolution and everything to do with the quality of the LCD.


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