ITS TRUE!!!!!
ITS TRUE!!!!

ITS TRUE!!!!


this means xbox will drop too! thats good news considering i need to buy 2 xboxes for my lil bros this xmas!

cube will prob drop to $75

and this also means the new versions of these systems are upon us...psx and the enhanced xbox

EDIT: link fixed...sorry deb

Young Vito. I clicked on the link...

Oh it wasn't a joke, it was a real link... you just forgot to put the link address where it went so that the page you go to is insert.link.here or something like that

Holy snap, does this apply to the online enabled model too? I'm picking one up if that's the case.

The link doesn't confirm anything. It's still a rumor, and I still think it's doubtful.

If it does happen, it's good, but I'm not holding my breath.

please note that despite what Young Vito wrote about "IT'S TRUE!!!", the article that he linked to clearly states that this is still an unconfirmed rumor

I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet.

The fact that IGN posed the question (Sony to Drop PS2 to $99?) based on the same unsubstantiated rumors posted here earlier doesn't lend it any more credibility. In fact, IGN questions the validity of the rumors and doubts that SCEA would take such a drastic measure.

While we can all hope it is true (and Xbox follows suit...I already own a PS2 ) it's still a "friend-of-a-friend's" information.

Where in that article does it state that Sony has comfirmed this price drop?

That IGN article states exactly what the first post linked to in this thread.

Also no one has heard of this price drop at other stores. Like the IGN article stated why would Sony single out just Target for the price drop?

Now, I'm not saying it won't happen, just that it doesn't make sense for Sony to drop from 179.99 to 99.99 that quickly when they sell well at 179.99.

If it does happen though I feel sorry for Microsoft heh. They are already losing money on each Xbox sold and having to drop to 99.99 isn't gonna sit well with investors. Yes, Microsoft said they were in it for the long haul but still.

A few points:

- How does anyone know what the cost of these system's is to manufacture? People always quote that "they are already making a loss" and "they are losing so much money on each system sold". Is this your preception or do you have some insider info? What do the semiconductors cost to FAB? I have no idea.

- We had a talk from a financial analyst the other day who said "When you have dominant market share, at some point you have to be willing to turn the key" Meaning that at some point you have to exert massive pressure on the market and force your competitors' hand. If this price drop is true, and I don't know if it is, it's Sony's way of saying "Show me what you got?"

- If all 3 consoles were at $99, software companies would have a field day this Christmas and the "Big Three" would all be making mad bank on licensing fees.

From the Puget Sound Business Journal: (09/22/2003)
Complete article...

That's the only reason I could see Sony dropping price. All the financial reports have shown the X-box division at MS taking huge losses. Forcing them to drop would just increase this. MS has said their willing to lose whatever to gain market share, but in the long run, they can only lose so much before investors start to bitch.

The Franchise, the "losses" are based on a couple of things. Sony and MS from time to time devulge their costs. For instance, at launch MS said the X-box was costing (if I remember correctly) $325/unit to produce.

Also, sometimes you fine articles with analysts estimating how much they cost to make by adding up the cost of the components, shipping etc.

Even if your skeptical of that, once you factor in the millions spent to research and design the system and the marketing through out the life span fo the console (take these and divide total cost by total units sold and add it to each units cost) it's clear that every console loses money.

Not to mention that Nintendo and others have stated repeatedly that they take losses on hardware, and that the games are where they make their profit, as they sell them for $50 a pop, and they cost much less than that to produce and market.

Some of these are old articles last one is from June this year it looks like. Also Microsoft has never said how much it cost to manufacture the Xbox*I was mistaken apparently* just analysts and others, but it's pretty much accepted as fact they are losing money on each one sold.

http://www.manufacturing.net/pur/ind...cleid=CA237778

http://www.circuitree.com/CDA/Articl...,91482,00.html

http://www.xboxvillage.com/shownews.asp?id_=7761

http://www.xboxsolution.com/article154.html June '03

Hey everybody, spread this rumor. I overheard a homeless guy on the street that xbox will be $99 before Christmas. Beat that.

Yep. It's pretty much accepted for all the consoles in every generation.

It's not just the cost to manufacture the system (and likely this alone is more than what they sell fore) but also, as I said above, all the total R&D and Marketing costs divided by total consoles sold over the consoles life span that makes up the total cost to the manufacturer.

Usually console makers eventually start making money on each hardware unit sold(within it's generation) though and some are predicting that might not happen at all with the Xbox.

Target Jtnguyen12

good times.

OK so I've got a theory.

It's probably gonna be a black friday deal! Get PS2 for $99, between certain hours or if you spend over $300 buck or something like that.

I hope this is true but I don't see it happening since the Cube just dropped in price, why would it drop again so soon. I would believe a drop to $149, maybe even $129 before $99 any of the week.

Good article.

I can see the PS2 going to possbley $149 or maybe even $129. But $99? That's a little too much of a price drop to go in one shot. Unless of course they've actually streamlined production costs enough to be able to sell ithe XBox at $99 and still have some profit margin left.

If Sony really did want to stick it MS and run the XBox into the ground ( as a couple of you have suggested) they could do it very easily this holiday season. SOCOM 2, and Jak 2 are going to be big titles, not really system sellers though. But at a reduced price the console would sell itself. The XBox is going into the holiday season without a really big "I gotta play this game or my life is not complete" title this year. Ninja Gaiden looks nice but is it going to be a system seller? I don't know. Halo2 and Half Life 2 are still a while away. I don't know about you guys, but on Christmas morning I want to hook up my new console and play right away. I really don't want to wait till June to play something.

I don't know guys your guess is as good as mine as to the "truth" behind this rumor.

Clearly, there's nothing to play on Xbox until next June.

Forget Amped 2 (or SSX 3), Crimson Skies, ESPN NBA Basketball (or Inside Drive), Tony Hawk, Rainbow Six 3, Top Spin, Amped 2, True Crime, Grand Theft Auto, Lord of the Rings, XIII, ESPN College Hoops, and Links.

These are just some of the games (coming out in a three-week period) that people with a new system will obviously ignore, come Christmas morning.

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For the rest of us, there are plenty of quality games available on any system you could choose. Except for the N-Gage, of course. (I kid, Nokia, I kid!)

And don't start the "system seller" talk again. Besides the fact that most people can't wrap their minds around the thought that a non-sequel can be a system-seller (see last year's prediction threads and Splinter Cell), they also discount that having a wide variety of above-average titles is more important to actually selling a system than having one or two obvious stellar games everyone can point to.

I think all of the current systems fall under this category.


As far as the PS2 rumor goes, well it would be nice, but having Ed McMahon show up at my door with a giant check would be nice too.

I think GoLucky's black Friday theory is the most realistic one so far.

Anyone else think of Madeline Kahn in "Blazing Saddles" when they here that line?

DAMMIT!

I just bought a cube like two #@%#@% days ago. And three games. MOTHER #^%#%^#@ SON OF A @%#@%%^!!!!!

I dont play games enough to want or need two systems. And the ps2 has more games that I like. This sucks balls. SHIT!

So you're happy about it?

Half of those titles you mentioned are multiplatform. Multiplatform titles will not sell people on the Xbox, exclusive games and Xbox Live will sell the Xbox hardware.

You forgot Ninja Gaiden in your list.

I'll give you 125 for it