Does it incorporate the street cars like the Honda Integra, Nissan 240sx, etc... or is it strictly GT type cars? Has anyone played both this and GT3? If so, could you give a review.

Thanks!

Edited out the idiotic personal attacks with references to us "fanboys" "sucking and swallowing" Bill Gates, I see? Your true character revealed.

You seem to be digging pretty deep for something to knock the Xbox with, there. Shrek and Bruce Lee some of the most promising games of last year? Where do you come up with this stuff? Nobody expected a movie licensed platformer to be good, and it was well known way before Bruce Lee was revealed that it would be crap because Microsoft dropped it and gave it to another developer. You could have done better than that. And Bloodwake one of the worst games ever? Don't make me laugh even more.

There have been some Xbox disappointments, but many have also lived up to the hype and some even surprised. I've been disappointed with just as many Gamecube games as I have Xbox games, and I could probably just attribute that to sites hyping up Xbox games more than they should. Are the disappointments of the past a basis on which to believe future games will disappoint? Not unless they're being developed by the same development teams under the exact same conditions (in other words - no), and not any more than most any upcoming games for the PS2 or Gamecube. To believe otherwise is erroneous logic.

I've been saying for the past year of so that despite the success of Halo, that it wouldn't be enough to carry the system over the long haul. Alot of the X-Box's other games do seem to be PC ports or FPS. So if you're not a big PC gamer you're pretty much out in the cold.

One game that I am suffering from "Box envy" over is Ninja Gaiden.

Okay in short, yes there are some good games for X-Box but there are shortcomings. Same is true with all three consoles.

Worst case scenario, try "eenie meenie miney moe"

Mentioning Ninja Gaiden suggests that you're speaking of future games as well as already released ones, and if that's true, you're obviously not well informed at all on the Xbox's upcoming games if you think it's mostly comprised of "pc ports" and "first-person shooters".

I was going to upgrade my PC, but when the Xbox and the Gamecube dropped in price earlier this year I picked them up right away for just the price of a video card. Now PC gaming has taken a back seat for me. Nothing is compelling to me on the PC. I was underwhelmed by Neverwinter Nights, and Morrowind chugged on my PC. The last PC game I finished was Dungeon Siege. I may get back into it next year with TRON 2.0, but I'm enjoying myself kickin' it in my home theater with my consoles. I've already gotten my money's worth out of my Xbox with Morrowind, and I'm looking forward to Xbox Live, and Splinter Cell. On the Gamecube I'm looking forward to Zelda, and on the PS2 I'm looking forward to GTA: Vice City. Nothing beats being able to pick and choose the games that are the cream of the crop.

Give it a chance. It has even been out for a year yet.

Its line-up is certainly more impressive than the PS2's was at this point, and the same goes for the the GC.

Out of this list I only recognized 3 first person shooters (granted, Thief isn't a true "shooter") A few of the names I recognize as cross console games. And Mechassault is the only PC title that I know of on the list.

So yes I was a bit "impercise" with my comments.

But that doesn't changed the fact that the X-Box's most prominent game Halo is a FPS and the genre people that most people associate it with is the PC.

But like I also said all three systems have their pluses and minuses. So it's mostly personal preference.

You never answered Flay's question, what false advertising?

If that was the case, I hope someone reported it to a moderator. You can't make personal attacks, even if you go back and edit it later.

Actually, MechAssault is a game completely built from the ground up for the Xbox as a console game -- in terms of graphics engine and gameplay design. It plays a lot differently than the PC Mechwarrior games and even has some new neat things, like the complete and realistic destruction of any structure in the game. You'll never see MechAssault on the PC, so I don't see how you can call it a PC game. It just uses the Mech name and is set in the Mechwarrior universe, that's it.

Doom III, Thief III and Deux Ex 2 are all PC games, though (although DE2, and perhaps Thief3, is being developed for PC and Xbox in tandem).

At the moment, the Xbox's big game is Halo, indeed. But with releases like Splinter Cell, and down the road other massive 1st party releases like Fable and BC, that may change. Besides, the game that defined the N64 in the average public's eye was arguably Goldeneye- a FPS- and nobody really associated that with PC gaming.

I don't know how to report things like that to moderators, and he edited it out so I couldn't quote it. It was definitely a bannable offense, though.

tha_dvd_man,

For future reference,

There's a link at the bottom of each post that says "Report this post to a moderator. That will bring up a comment box you fill out, and it will then e-mail your comments and the content of the post you reported to all the moderators of the given forum.

If you're really concerned about it you could try digging up the page in your history, or hitting back a bunch of times if you haven't opened a new window and get back to the page where he hadn't edited the post and then report it or quote it.

Or you could e-mail the mods and tell them what happened. Here's static cling's email : [email protected]

The Christmas season a year after release, PS2 released an avalanche of great games. Within a three month period, PS2 got MGS2, FFX, GTA3, and Devil May Cry.

This year, Xbox has, basically, Splinter Cell and the year old MGS2 (Substance or not, it's still year-old MGS2). Blinx and ToeJam, both supposed to be "killer apps" turned out sub-par.

The PS2 had a worse start than Xbox. There wasn't a game on PS2 nearly as good as Halo for a long time, but Xbox hasn't followed Halo with anything strong, and this Christmas lineup is pretty weak.

I thought Unreal Tournament is coming out this month!I do not mind anytime as long as I get a very solid game every 3 months once.I neevr played it but with all the comotions I am going to get this this and also Mechassult

There's also a list of moderators at the top of Video Game Forum page... the names should link to e-mail addresses for me, Geoff, and namja.

How exactly do you know if the Xmas lineup is weak if it hasn't been released yet? Who's going to win the Superbowl oh mystical sir?

Question: if someone clicks on "Report this to a moderator" and sends them a message, does the Moderator see what was posted at the time it was reported, or do they only see what is currently posted (and possibly edited)?

Can you guys see the original messages when editing goes on?

/me thinks with the added xbox hype and the $199 bundle deal some people just like to piss on things...

If you don't like the box sell it and get something else. It's really that simple. No need to attack or defend any system. What was it that was said earlier... different strokes?

I for one am very happy with my choice of getting the xbox at launch for $299. And I'm currently having a great time playing the xbox exclusive "Buffy"

Someone owns three games of the 100+ available, and two of them are Wreckless and Crash Bandicoot? Then there's a complaint the system is underwhelming?

I've never seen a more clear example of cause and effect before.

We get a hyperlink pointing us to the reported post. So in between the post being reported and a moderating viewing the post, the poster may have time to edit the post. We don't see the original message. However, what you can do is copy the offending text into the "Report this post" form.

Thanks, that's too bad it doesn't CC: the original post at the time of reporting into it for yah. I imagine there could be problems with false accusations and deletions, but hopefully not. Judging from what someone allegedly posted here though, that person definitely seemed like they went off the deep end.

Yeap. It's like owning the original Atari, only owning the ET game and saying the Atari was underwhelming.

Oh yeah, at least JSRF, it's quite a nice improvement over the DC version in a number of ways, graphics, speed, and level size all being part of that.

I agree with what most people are saying. Theres nothing wrong with having more than one system. Maybe you should keep your X-Box and also get a PS2 and you'll have the best of both worlds. But if right now the only way can you afford a PS2 is if you sell your X-Box then thats your call buddy.
Ive been thinking about purchasing an X-Box lately, ive been recently interested in it because of the bundle they are offering with JSRF and Sega GT. But i looked at thier current line up of games and their upcoming line up and didnt see more than maybe 3 titles recent or forth-coming that was worth my investment. I really do though think that thier bundle is a great offer, but beyond getting a good deal for the X-Box with the 2 games for a reg price i dont see much satisfation in owning it. I have a PS2 and absolutely love it to death. I think thier line-up of games is beautiful and thier exclusive titles for me are more precious than anything X-Box has now and is planning. Now, having thought about it carefully, a Gamecube sounds like a better investment for myself. There are titles for me that sound too good to pass up, Resident Evil and the others planned, Mario Sunshine and Animal Crossing to name a few.

Threads like this make me realize how much I hate everyone elses opinion and only agree with my own