Metal Gear Solid 2 may be delayed.........
 

or even cancelled here in the West!!!!! :( :(

http://www.fgnonline.com/playstation2/news/19933.html

PlayStation 2: Konami has issued a statement regarding the development of the highly anticipated Metal Gear Solid 2 title.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty focuses on, among other topics, terrorists in New York City. Speculation has arisen suggesting that Kojima's masterpiece would either be delayed or cancelled in the West due to this week's events.

An official statement from Konami Computer Entertainment Japan said, "We do not know what effects there will be upon Metal Gear Solid 2 at this moment. We are currently collecting and analyzing information regarding this matter and would like to express our condolences to the victims of the tragedy."

As soon as further information is made available, we'll let you know.

No way in hell are they cancelling PS2's biggest title, even if they do, copies will leak out :)

I would highly doubt a cancellation as well. I do believe that they may delay the title until early next year. That would majorly blow ass. :(

I don't plan on getting a ps2, but this news does suck. I understand the issue is respect for victims, but we can't start censoring everything that has a plot that deals with terrorism. We can't give up our freedoms because of this attack.

They want to cancel a game that isn't released for 2 months? America will have moved on by then. That's just silly.

I doubt any thing will happen. Every company has to do their standard PC public relations release. At most, they might delay the game by a month until November's start of the holiday season. And besides, Snake is a hero, it's not like GTA3 where the purpose is to kill people and cause havoc.

according to rumours out there, there's a good chance of this one getting cancelled.

It ships on 11/13/01. Isn't that enough?

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Awww crap!! :( MGS2 was the reason I bought a PS2(that and FFX). I understand Konami's feelings though, anyone who has played the demo knows the game deals strongly with terrorists and is based in New York.

I understand some major movies have also been pushed back also. Its still around 2 months until MGS2 comes out, and I think by then most people will have (hopefully) gotten over the incident and moved on with their lives, there's a time to feel sorrow but we can't grieve forever, that'll only weaken our countries esteem for being free-thinking.

Besides, Snake fights terrorists in MGS!! Hopefully at the worst Konami will delay the title a few weeks rather than cancel their biggest title in the west. Otherwise I may have to get a japanese playstation to play this game.

If it does get cancelled its the stupidiest thing ever. You are stopping terrorists in the game. Must we let these maniacs win at every turn. Every thing that gets cancelled or pulled from TV is just another victory for the terrorists.

I doubt it would be cancelled. Too much money to be gotten by this game. If it is cancelled I will probably quit playing video games entirely because it is just silly to even think about cancelling this game.

I implore all of you to write a letter to Konami saying you want MGS2 out on the correct day and not to be censored in regards to terrorism and everything else. You do actually have to write a note though, as they have no e-mail address specifically for this purpose. Here is the address:

Konami of America, Inc.
1400 Bridge Parkway, Suite 101
Redwood City, California, 94065-1567

Here is the Japanese mailing address if you wish it to go there (at least I think this is the address):

KONAMI CORPORATION 3-1, Toranomon 4-chome
Minato-ku, Tokyo 105-6021
Japan

The game was still 2 months off when the tragedy happened, they should not put this game on the back burner. Also, tell them to forward the mail to Japan if need be.

Snake is American, MGS's storylines have always involved America. Whether this game is about terrorism or not should not matter because we all know in the end that Snake wins. Snake is patriotic and will beat the terrorists back for his country. We should stand united and not divided over this. We need MGS2 to come out on time and with no censoring. It will show the entertainment industry is not scared of terrorism or exposing an obvious threat in today's world. I think I've said enough, please write to Konami and let them know you want this game.

Or go to the Konami MGS2 message board and post your thoughts :

http://www.konami.co.jp/kcej/product...s/index_e.html


They have staff looking at posts/questions there.

Thanks dek...I already sent my message.

Cancelled ... ?!? No, thats muuuuuch too far. That's just ridiculous. This is THE MOST anticipated game for a long time now on ANY console. They can't just cancel it for a basically unrelated event and they won't. The game's release isn't until the November weekend after Thanksgiving. That's definitely enough time to release this.

The release is November 13, 2001 last I checked...that is well before Thansgiving. They want an advantage on sells before Thanksgiving. This is why it is coming out in the US before Japan.

Grow up.. this isn't about censorship, it's about respect to those involved in this tragedy. Releasing a game about terrorism so soon after thousands of people died because of terrorists is really bad publicity and bad taste. Hell.. I'm excited about this game just as much as anybody else, many people (with good reson) think this game is why the PS2 was made (seing as.. well.. um.. the system's selection so far has been..).

Something this big is going to take a helluva lot longer than 2 months to recover from.. and in the meantime.. things are gonna have be a little cool.

Again.. this is about respect, not about "fear" or "censorship". I'm sure this game will come.. and when it does, maybe the PS2 will be worth what it costs. Okay maybe half of that.. ;)

Actually, if you want to get technical, it is about censorship. You see, a few weeks ago there was news that MGS2 may be censored for the US release. What said censoring was, no one knew. I am combining both the possible cancellation and censoring into one large group.

I do respect what has happened, but at some point things must be returned to normal along with us dealing with this tragedy. You're right, the effects will most likely be felt 2 months from now, but that is no reason to just cancel or delay a game.

Unfortunately, all entertainment is thrust into this PR game and have to make tough choices, I just think this is the wrong choice. If they cancel this, they might as well cancel all games whether they have anything to do with tragedy or not.

Sorry but if they cancel this game or edit it to not take place in NY and/or not involve terrorists it is clearly censorship. Sure it would be done out of respect, but it is censorship none the less. Delaying wouldn't be a big deal IMO, but it's really not necessary. The movies I can somewhat understand as everyone, including most of the victims families, would be subjected to trailers, tv spots, posters etc. However it is a minority of the population that plays video games. The average person doesn't know what MGS2 is much less that it involves terrorists in NY. Besides in this game the terrorists are the bad guys, it doesn't glorify terrorims. I would understand them pulling a game in which you played a terrorist.

I don't think you really understand. If Konami was FORCED to remove anything about NY and terrorists, that would be censorship.

If KONAMI decides to remove/change those elements, than that's just good judgement.

But in essence, they would be forced to do it out of fear of negative PR backlash. And it would be poor judgement, not good judgement. We shouldn't change our lives, or our entertainment, because of this attack. We shouldn't let the terrorists affect our society at all, that is their goal. Plus it would be stupid for konami to change anything. Metal Gear has always dealt with terrorist, they can't change it now. And too many people want it, and they'll make too much money off of it for them not to release it.

"Any publicity is good publicity"

I wasn't going to buy the game anyway.
But I think Konami should just alter the cityscape and change the supposed location (and title). (Tokyo maybe?)

Exactly, Konami should just release it as is. I won't be getting the game as I don't have or want a PS2 so I don't have a personal interest in the game. I just hate that terrorist are changing our lives. That is what the set out to do.

Glad I can play both import and domestic PS2 titles I'll pick it up import if they mess with the domestic....

I don't think this should be censored though, it's just a game.

If you think that this title should be censored, or even cancelled... then what are your thoughts on Microsofts "Flight simulator" PC game?

In that game, you can fly a plane over the NY city skyline, turn the plane, and actually fly it into the WTC.

Thoughts?

-k
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Horrible....

I am an American who is angry with what happened here. However I do believe this videogame that has the hero fighting terrorists should be released. I believe that canceling any title will only reward those terrorists that have attacked America. Why not donate a percentage of the profits to help victims of the horrible attack that way you still are able to release this great game and the victims are helped also.

Thank you.

this is what i posted and how i feel.

Despite the recent attacks, I think that MGS2 should be released uncensored. I would understand if they delayed the release until next year, but cancelling the most highly anticipated game is going too far. We cannot let these terrorists attacks change our lives -- that is part of their goal.

You sound as if the thought never occurred to you that you can crash a plane in a flight sim. Now add accurate cityscapes. Of course you can fly the plane into the WTC in it.
Back in middle school, I used to crash the plane into the L'Arc de Triumph in France. Is that horrible to? And ya know what? No one's done it yet in real life.

Just saw it on Headline News, Microsoft is removing the WTC from a flight simulater game.

How do you play both import and domestic PS2 titles? I've been dying to find out a way to do this in a reliable manner, there are some japanese titles I really want to play!

What exactly do you mean in a reliable manner? The only way that I am aware of is buy a mod chip. The easiest way to buy a mod chip is off the internet they cost around 40 dollars and you can either send you PS2 in or do it yourself with some simple soldering. I decided to do it myself because I wasn't surewhat the companys reputation and found it to be pretty simple to install. If you mean reliable in the sense that the PS2 works properly and doesn't break down, I have had no such problems with my PS2 after it was chipped the only downside is that this voids all warrentys on the unit and Sony will refuse to service it.
I hope that they release this MSG2 as this was one of the main reasons I bought the PS2.

They have Developer boxes which allow you to play basically anything, and the mod I recently looked at buying was a direct hookup through the USB port and it only cost 27 dollars including shipping. Easybuy had these.

Possibly cancelled!
 

Spoiler Alert!












"Konami and the creators of MGS2 recently stated that the future of their masterpiece game is unknown.

To help shed some light on this, the reason that Konami is talking cancellation is due to the game's ending which involves Solid Snake fighting against Liquid Snake and a band of terrorists inside the WTC when a plane or helicopter plows directly into the building.

The end is rumored to be very flashy and was the most expensive and time consuming part of the game (development wise), so re-doing the ending is unfeasible unless the game is delayed at least a year."





This is not a news story. This is a rumor. We all hope it is not true, but be prepared if it is.

Easy, have a Japanese PS2.

;)

-k
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Taken from the IGN site:

Konami Careful About Future of MGS2

Konami issues official statement on the future of Metal Gear Solid 2 for the holidays.

September 14, 2001

After most of the initial shock of the horrific events that occurred Tuesday morning on September 11, 2001 began to sink in, some Americans began to wonder how it would affect certain things in their lives that seemed much more important just a few days ago, such as Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Much of the questions we've received here at IGNPS2 over the past 48 or so hours have do with the status of certain games that deal with violent issues, whether it be MGS2, Grand Theft Auto III, Tribes, or any other games that have shooting in them.

The game brought up the most, however, has been Konami's highly-anticipated Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, which happens to feature terrorists in New York City as one of the game's adversarial parties. The speculation that has been circulating is that the game would either be delayed or cancelled in the West because of the recent happenings in the United States.

Yesterday and today, we received official statements from Konami Computer Entertainment Japan and from Konami of America regarding the effects of the simultaneous terrorist incidents in the United States on its upcoming product.

"Konami of America is still in shock over the recent tragic events," said a spokesperson from Konami of America. "Metal Gear Solid 2 is about the desire to end violence on a global scale, as the previous games in the series have been. Like everyone in America, Konami is evaluating the impact of these events. In the meantime, all of our thoughts are with New York City and Washington, DC and all of the people whose lives have been touched by this tragedy. There are no words to adequately express our sorrow, but we firmly believe that the people of America will come through this trial stronger than ever."

"We do not know what effects there will be upon Metal Gear Solid 2 at this moment," added a spokesperson from Konami Japan. "We are currently collecting and analyzing information regarding this matter and would like to express our condolences to the victims of the tragedy."

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I suspect that a 3-4 month delay would be a real possiblity under the circumstances. As far as a cancellation? No way. You don't shelve the greatest game of all time (potentially) over sensitivity isues. Besides, you can see they're already spinning this; that the games is about fighting terrorists. It's a tough position they'll be in, but the came WILL come out, it's got to.

Yeah, by reliable I meant that it doesn't break our PS2, I remember when the first Playstation1 modchips came out back in day, there were some serious problems with the system overheating and I heard some of the chips for PS2 don't play all the japanese titles due to sony changing/updating the copy protection (kind of like what they did with games like Vandal Hearts 2 and Dino Crisis that detect mod chips and won't run), which site did you get your chip from, I know a few like mod-chip but I don't have experience with them?

newest press release from Konami about the status of MGS2

http://www.fgnonline.com/playstation2/news/19940.html




Konami Clarifies MGS2 Status

PlayStation 2: Konami has said it may have to remove certain scenes from Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty because they show the New York City skyline, including the World Trade Center.

As the demo depicted, Solid Snake does battle in the waters off New York City. The title is now being reviewed by publisher Konami out of concern that some scenes could offend audiences after last week's attack on the WTC.

Konami will reevaluate the latest edition of the Metal Gear franchise, which is expected in mid-November.

"Right now the events in New York have just been so tragic and have just impacted so many people here that every industry in America, and most of the Western world, is going to be very careful about what they do in the coming months, especially the entertainment industry," said Chris Kramer, spokesman for Konami of America.

Some scenes may also be removed because they show the WTC as part of the New York City skyline. "Metal Gear Solid 2 is about the desire to end violence on a global scale, as the previous games in the series have been," the company added.

While Konami plans to do a version for Xbox console, no title or plot for the game have been determined, Kramer said.

Looks like I'll be picking up the <B>"unedited"</B> import version!

-k
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I was already going to do that anyhow. When metal gear solid came out to psx in import format a few months before the american version, i picked it up and beat it. without learning the language. i had just a little trouble solving some puzzles because of the language difference, but nothing major and i loved beating it. :)

:jawdrop:

:lol:

-keyser "that was TOO easy!" soze
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rotfl