Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
^Agree. When the credits start to roll, I'm always like "Wait, that was too short!"
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
S1 was great, S2 is terrible. I can't be the only one thinking that. It misses almost everything that made S1 good. I agree completely with this:
‘Reacher’ Season 2 Is Now Officially One Of The Worst Shows On TV
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/01/07/reacher-season-2-is-now-officially-one-of-the-worst-shows-on-tv/?sh=ce7e4bf21688Last edited by eXcentris; 01-08-24 at 05:48 PM.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
I am thoroughly enjoying Season 2. I've read all of the Reacher books but I barely remember this one. That said, they definitely are formulaic (Reacher wanders into a small town, stumbles into some massive crime organization, kills everyone without being killed, nails the female lead and leaves). There are a few that mix it up and this is one of those, involving his past team.
I don't agree with that review - I think the fight choreography is fine. That's a weird thing to harp on. And one of the big points they always make about the military police in the books is that these are police officers but the people they arrest are almost all trained fighters too. So of course they have to be a formidable bunch. It's nice to have Reacher bounce off people he has an existing relationship with rather than having to watch every step of a friendship/relationship grow throughout a season again.
Reacher buying new clothes happens ALL THE TIME in the books. If he goes two-three days in a story, he gets new clothes. Usually at a Goodwill-type store but again, that's part of the character. In reality he'd have an even harder time finding clothes in the books (he's even bigger there) but it's never an issue.
If they had just gone right into adapting another of the same kind of book that they used in Season 2, they'd be accused of repetition. Because I love the books, but they are repetitious as hell.
I don't agree with that review - I think the fight choreography is fine. That's a weird thing to harp on. And one of the big points they always make about the military police in the books is that these are police officers but the people they arrest are almost all trained fighters too. So of course they have to be a formidable bunch. It's nice to have Reacher bounce off people he has an existing relationship with rather than having to watch every step of a friendship/relationship grow throughout a season again.
Reacher buying new clothes happens ALL THE TIME in the books. If he goes two-three days in a story, he gets new clothes. Usually at a Goodwill-type store but again, that's part of the character. In reality he'd have an even harder time finding clothes in the books (he's even bigger there) but it's never an issue.
If they had just gone right into adapting another of the same kind of book that they used in Season 2, they'd be accused of repetition. Because I love the books, but they are repetitious as hell.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
That guy's been on the job for a two and a half weeks and 80% of his articles are "Today’s Wordle #[000] Hints, Clues And Answer For [Day and Date]. Another 10% are bitching about Reacher and Fargo and 5% are "Epic releases [X] game for free today." Did Forbes turn into a content farm?
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
^ Forbes is not the only one. Screenrant has pretty much the same criticism, except the author chooses to wrap it up with "let's hope S3 is better".Not to mention a bunch of reddit threads and YT videos with similar "S2 sucks" complaints.
https://screenrant.com/reacher-seaso...missing-great/
I was coming here expecting glorious rants about how bad Reacher S2 is, and it turns out this thread is just as disappointing as the show.
https://screenrant.com/reacher-seaso...missing-great/
I was coming here expecting glorious rants about how bad Reacher S2 is, and it turns out this thread is just as disappointing as the show.
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Yeah, I could refute most of his points (he flat out misses on several), but not worth the time. That's just the typical "try to come up with an opposing view" clickbait article. No problem if this isn't someone's cup of tea, but that article just comes off as trying to be different to get clicks (and it, of course, worked
).
Others seem like they are trying to take it waaaay to seriously.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
Maybe this is part of the problem:
" I've read a handful of the Jack Reacher books, and in general the "Reacher stumbles on a criminal conspiracy" stories are always better than the "Reacher helps out an old military colleague" stories."[/i]
Plus they failed to re-create anything remotely as good as the Reacher/Finlay/Roscoe chemistry. The characters in S2 are all blah except for Neagly and Russo, including the forgettable villain.
" I've read a handful of the Jack Reacher books, and in general the "Reacher stumbles on a criminal conspiracy" stories are always better than the "Reacher helps out an old military colleague" stories."[/i]
Plus they failed to re-create anything remotely as good as the Reacher/Finlay/Roscoe chemistry. The characters in S2 are all blah except for Neagly and Russo, including the forgettable villain.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
Yeah, I could refute most of his points (he flat out misses on several), but not worth the time. That's just the typical "try to come up with an opposing view" clickbait article. No problem if this isn't someone's cup of tea, but that article just comes off as trying to be different to get clicks (and it, of course, worked
).
Others seem like they are trying to take it waaaay to seriously.
![Smilie](/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Others seem like they are trying to take it waaaay to seriously.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
Maybe this is part of the problem:
" I've read a handful of the Jack Reacher books, and in general the "Reacher stumbles on a criminal conspiracy" stories are always better than the "Reacher helps out an old military colleague" stories."
Plus they failed to re-create anything remotely as good as the Reacher/Finlay/Roscoe chemistry. The characters in S2 are all blah except for Neagly and Russo, including the forgettable villain.
" I've read a handful of the Jack Reacher books, and in general the "Reacher stumbles on a criminal conspiracy" stories are always better than the "Reacher helps out an old military colleague" stories."
Plus they failed to re-create anything remotely as good as the Reacher/Finlay/Roscoe chemistry. The characters in S2 are all blah except for Neagly and Russo, including the forgettable villain.
And I still can’t believe anyone who has read the books can complain about the clothes thing. It’s so central to the character and happens constantly in these tiny podunk towns that wouldn’t have a single thing to fit this monster. That’s just one example of the criticisms in that article that miss the mark.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
I thought S1 was great, maybe my expectations were too high, but S2 isn't nearly the same quality.
One more thing, I read the dude put on 30 pounds for S2. He doesn't look better, he just looks... stiff.
I didn't give a hoot about the clothes thing.
Also, I realize that "attention to details", and "you don't mess with the special investigators" is a running gag kinda thing, but to me, it's just cringe.
Maybe I should do weed before watching this, it might brighten my outlook.
One more thing, I read the dude put on 30 pounds for S2. He doesn't look better, he just looks... stiff.
I didn't give a hoot about the clothes thing.
Also, I realize that "attention to details", and "you don't mess with the special investigators" is a running gag kinda thing, but to me, it's just cringe.
Maybe I should do weed before watching this, it might brighten my outlook.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
In a nutshell, to me, loner/fish out of water Reacher in a small town is more interesting than Reacher in NYC with his pals.Since this is supposed to be like the 11-12th book, non readers would know nothing about Reacher's Special Investigator team so it's hard to care about any of them.
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I am thoroughly enjoying Season 2. I've read all of the Reacher books but I barely remember this one. That said, they definitely are formulaic (Reacher wanders into a small town, stumbles into some massive crime organization, kills everyone without being killed, nails the female lead and leaves). There are a few that mix it up and this is one of those, involving his past team.
I don't agree with that review - I think the fight choreography is fine. That's a weird thing to harp on. And one of the big points they always make about the military police in the books is that these are police officers but the people they arrest are almost all trained fighters too. So of course they have to be a formidable bunch. It's nice to have Reacher bounce off people he has an existing relationship with rather than having to watch every step of a friendship/relationship grow throughout a season again.
Reacher buying new clothes happens ALL THE TIME in the books. If he goes two-three days in a story, he gets new clothes. Usually at a Goodwill-type store but again, that's part of the character. In reality he'd have an even harder time finding clothes in the books (he's even bigger there) but it's never an issue.
If they had just gone right into adapting another of the same kind of book that they used in Season 2, they'd be accused of repetition. Because I love the books, but they are repetitious as hell.
I don't agree with that review - I think the fight choreography is fine. That's a weird thing to harp on. And one of the big points they always make about the military police in the books is that these are police officers but the people they arrest are almost all trained fighters too. So of course they have to be a formidable bunch. It's nice to have Reacher bounce off people he has an existing relationship with rather than having to watch every step of a friendship/relationship grow throughout a season again.
Reacher buying new clothes happens ALL THE TIME in the books. If he goes two-three days in a story, he gets new clothes. Usually at a Goodwill-type store but again, that's part of the character. In reality he'd have an even harder time finding clothes in the books (he's even bigger there) but it's never an issue.
If they had just gone right into adapting another of the same kind of book that they used in Season 2, they'd be accused of repetition. Because I love the books, but they are repetitious as hell.
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Re: Reacher (Amazon) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 12/15/23
Season 2 is far superior to 1 IMHO.
I have no issues with it with the exception of what happened at the end of this episode. That was a bummer.
I have no issues with it with the exception of what happened at the end of this episode. That was a bummer.
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In a nutshell, to me, loner/fish out of water Reacher in a small town is more interesting than Reacher in NYC with his pals.Since this is supposed to be like the 11-12th book, non readers would know nothing about Reacher's Special Investigator team so it's hard to care about any of them.
Yeah, there are things like Reachers clothing and how he stays ripped wandering from town to town and eating at greasy diner’s all the time. But those are far and few between and really shouldn’t affect one’s enjoyment of the show.
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I like both season equally. But I am weird, so...
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I'm interested in Reacher and his pals because I like the look into his past with his special investigators team. We only met Neagley from season 1, so to have more of her and the whole team is a bonus.
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Personally, I think this season has done a good job of introducing the characters and showing the camaraderie between them. The scenes a couple of episodes ago when they're sitting together in the diner planning strategy and talking about music was great. In every episode, they're frequently good-naturedly ribbing each other in a way that feels natural. I'm finding it all very entertaining. I recently rewatched season 1, which I also really liked, and I don't see this season as being very different in terms of storytelling quality.
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The only thing I don't like about this season is that I'm getting sick of seeing Patrick play generic military/security turned bad guy. It's literally the only role I see him in these days and it has lost the appeal of seeing the T-1000 be a bad guy in new projects. Get someone else to play that role, please.
Otherwise, (as a non book reader) I'm enjoying the season quite a bit.
Otherwise, (as a non book reader) I'm enjoying the season quite a bit.
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But in the books, at this point, the reader doesn't really know anything about the Special Investigators either. Most Reacher books are set after his military service. I think there was one book before this one that is set when he's an MP, but not with the Special Investigators group.
Personally, I think this season has done a good job of introducing the characters and showing the camaraderie between them. The scenes a couple of episodes ago when they're sitting together in the diner planning strategy and talking about music was great. In every episode, they're frequently good-naturedly ribbing each other in a way that feels natural. I'm finding it all very entertaining. I recently rewatched season 1, which I also really liked, and I don't see this season as being very different in terms of storytelling quality.
Personally, I think this season has done a good job of introducing the characters and showing the camaraderie between them. The scenes a couple of episodes ago when they're sitting together in the diner planning strategy and talking about music was great. In every episode, they're frequently good-naturedly ribbing each other in a way that feels natural. I'm finding it all very entertaining. I recently rewatched season 1, which I also really liked, and I don't see this season as being very different in terms of storytelling quality.