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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Coral
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Unlike most shows from the 80s and 90s, Friends has multi-generational appeal.
My cousin's kid is 22 and she's a fan and so are her friends. A co-worker in India is Gen-Z and her and her friends absolutely love the show. She tells me that it's popular in India among Gen Z's. Caught some re-runs a few weeks back and other than it being obvious it's from the 90s (ie. fashion, etc.) and a few things that could be deemed offensive today, it totally holds up. The comedy isn't cringe, and the story lines for the most part is still relatable.
Originally Posted by bluetoast
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Schwimmer had an arc as the older sister’s boyfriend then husband on The Wonder Years, which I think played a factor in his hiring.
Originally Posted by Meathead
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Jennifer's father, John Aniston, was a regular on NBC's Days of Our Lives. Most likely helped with getting her the part.
Jennifer Aniston on the other hand was the last one cast. They said they burned through 200 actress auditions before finding Aniston. They mention that the character of Rachel could come off as an entitled bitch (my words, not theirs) in the wrong hands. Aniston was the only one that could make the audience like her despite being entitled. Not sure her lineage played a part, not that we'll ever know. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by diesteldorf
(Post 14344645)
I also think it could have something to do with the fact that he was the first one to go..... Friends, as you said was a huge, culturally defining show. As a Gen Xer, I didn't think about mortality as much when I was in my 20s, watching Friends, ER, Veronica's Closet...on NBC, but life changes as you get older, though I'm not quite as old as Matthew Perry...I've had friends, coworkers, acquaintances pass that were younger than he was, and also think more about my friends and relatives that are older, and ones I've already lost.
Part of the appeal of Friends, for me, is that it portrays that idealized time in one's twenties, just getting started in life, somewhat carefree, starting to take on real responsibilities. It's hard to view Friends the same way, knowing that one of them is gone, relatively young. As someone said upthread, we'll never get another reunion special, movie, etc, because one the core cast members won't be there, and it would be extremely awkward if they tried. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
The closest you're getting to another reunion is if they reboot the show and have them all stop by in various intervals.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
They could do a special reunion episode called "The One with Chandler's Funeral."
Which sounds either really ghoulish or poignant in a meta way. :( |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 14346056)
They could do a special reunion episode called "The One with Chandler's Funeral."
Which sounds either really ghoulish or poignant in a meta way. :( |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
I haven't seen Frasier in syndication in a while, but I see Friends on daily.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by movieguru
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Revival or reunion shows often have to address the passing of an actor/ character. Most recently, Fraser has done this with John Mahoney. Dukes of Hazzard had to do this as well with Boss Hogg and Uncle Jesse. If done right, it can be done with some class. It would be awkward, not to have Chandler on a reunion, but it could work if done right. It's highly unlikely they'd ever do a reunion even if Matthew Perry was still alive. They're making enough money from residuals, to need to do it for the money. Yet, Fraser is probably making a fortune on residuals and he came back, so you never know.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Meathead
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You mean another reunion? They did one in 2021.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by movieguru
(Post 14346081)
Revival or reunion shows often have to address the passing of an actor/ character. Most recently, Fraser has done this with John Mahoney. Dukes of Hazzard had to do this as well with Boss Hogg and Uncle Jesse. If done right, it can be done with some class. It would be awkward, not to have Chandler on a reunion, but it could work if done right. It's highly unlikely they'd ever do a reunion even if Matthew Perry was still alive. They're making enough money from residuals, to need to do it for the money. Yet, Fraser is probably making a fortune on residuals and he came back, so you never know.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7
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They had no interest in doing a reunion/revival before this, I doubt that will change anything.
Lately, most of these revivals haven't fared well, so it may be best to leave them in the past. Mad About You went out with a fizzle. Will and Grace lasted a few more seasons, but not very noteworthy. Fraser has received mixed reception. It's good to see the characters again, but if not done right, it may taint what came before it. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
The cast of Friends and also Seinfeld are in a unique situation of still banking millions every year from Syndication. Even if they all had a change of heart and wanted to do a revival,their are financial incentives in place not to unlike with people in all these other revivals. A poorly recieved revival could dampen the popularity of a current Syndication juggernaut.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
I don't think many people would be interested in a scripted reunion without Perry. They couldn't get away with having Chandler "out of town", which means they'd have to explain Chandler's death. And for a show about friends where all 6 characters were equally crucial to the show - it would be way too big of a bummer and would feel very off.
Regardless of any of our opinions, I'm 99.9% sure we won't see the show returning in any fashion. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by AaronHernandez
(Post 14346208)
The cast of Friends and also Seinfeld are in a unique situation of still banking millions every year from Syndication. Even if they all had a change of heart and wanted to do a revival,their are financial incentives in place not to unlike with people in all these other revivals. A poorly recieved revival could dampen the popularity of a current Syndication juggernaut.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Coral
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I don't think many people would be interested in a scripted reunion without Perry. They couldn't get away with having Chandler "out of town", which means they'd have to explain Chandler's death. And for a show about friends where all 6 characters were equally crucial to the show - it would be way too big of a bummer and would feel very off.
Regardless of any of our opinions, I'm 99.9% sure we won't see the show returning in any fashion. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
If there was ever a group of people who did not need to reboot their old sitcom for any reason at all, it's the cast of "Friends".
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by movieguru
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Sometimes the reunion/ sequel shows go from sitcom to drama like with The Brady Bunch, Lou Grant, and Growing Pains. Usually, that doesn't work at all. I think Lou Grant and maybe Trapper John M.D. worked ok with the switch, but most wouldn't.
It's weird when a sitcom does a reunion but leaves out the laugh track when it was used in the original show. Hell, MASH got rid of the laugh track near the end of the series - even though it was technically still a comedy (which in itself is kind of debatable). |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
They could always do what 90210 did...have a show where the cast is playing themselves while filming a Friends reunion series. Heck, 90210 even did it after a key cast member had died too.
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Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Coral
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I really don't consider Trapper John M.D. a sequel of MASH. The lead isn't the original actor - which Wayne Rogers could've played even though this show takes place about 25 years after the Korean War, since Rogers was only 5 years younger than Pernell Roberts... plus there's barely any reference to the MASH universe. They could've just made up a new character who was part of a MASH unit in Korea. This was just a dumb ploy to try and get more people to tune in.
Hell, MASH got rid of the laugh track near the end of the series - even though it was technically still a comedy (which in itself is kind of debatable). Officially, Trapper John was a sequel to the movie Mash and not the tv series because they didn't want to pay royalties to the producers of the tv series. That may be a reason why they wouldn't use Wayne Rogers for the series. Unofficially, it was a spin off og the tv series. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by movieguru
(Post 14346636)
I thought it was just the series finale and the operating room scenes that didn't have the laugh track.
Yes, they definitely didn't have a laugh track during the OR scenes. That was the compromise they made when CBS wanted a laugh track added. I think the UK never had the series with a laugh track. Officially, Trapper John was a sequel to the movie Mash and not the tv series because they didn't want to pay royalties to the producers of the tv series. That may be a reason why they wouldn't use Wayne Rogers for the series. Unofficially, it was a spin off og the tv series. Wow, I've taken us off topic. Could this thread BE any more off topic? (yes, I'm going to hell). |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 14346649)
I believe it was removed from the final season.
Yes, they definitely didn't have a laugh track during the OR scenes. That was the compromise they made when CBS wanted a laugh track added. I think the UK never had the series with a laugh track. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
The laugh track on M*A*S*H always felt of place since it was obviously not filmed on a stage. In most sit-coms, you just sort of roll with the laugh track because they're filmed on stages, often before a studio audience, so it feels like a play.
And then are examples of laugh tracks being included at really inappropriate times like when Edith was fighting off a rapist on All in the Family or when Arnold and Dudley were being groomed by a child molester on Diff'rent Strokes. -eek- |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by movieguru
(Post 14346418)
Sometimes the reunion/ sequel shows go from sitcom to drama like with The Brady Bunch, Lou Grant, and Growing Pains.
Growing Pains was not a spinoff of anything else. The only spinoff coming from Growing Pains was Just the Ten of Us, which was another comedy. GP's early 2000s reunion movies were still comedies. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Matthew Perry had a memorable 3-episode arc on Growing Pains as Carol's friend, Sandy. Spoiler, for the end of that arc, if you don't know it:
Spoiler:
Later, he made a guest appearance on Just the Ten of Us and had the punchline in a memorable scene: |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Even at the time I thought it was weird that even though the coach only had minor parts in like 5 episodes of Growing Pains, they tried to spin him off into his own show. During the shows run, did anyone even remember that character?
Coincidentally (or maybe not), the daughter Perry's character was dating was a co-star in Perry's "Home Free" sitcom a few years later. Also, one of the daughters (in the pig-tails) was the artist girl in The Outfield "Your Love" music video. |
Re: Matthew Perry (Friends) Dead at 54 from Apparent Drowning
Originally Posted by GuessWho
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Huh?
Growing Pains was not a spinoff of anything else. The only spinoff coming from Growing Pains was Just the Ten of Us, which was another comedy. GP's early 2000s reunion movies were still comedies. |
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