House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
10-25-22, 10:31 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
They mentioned that Rhaenys was patrolling the narrow seas to block off trade to Kings Landing. But yes, Rhaenys was the one to send. Rhaenerya was at the tournament when that Baratheon gave Rhaenys the favor. She basically went to Storms End with nothing more than look at our dragon and swear your allegiance again. These lords have to supply fighters and gold in a war so the Hightower offer of a marriage alliance is the stronger offer.
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10-25-22, 10:37 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
You would think she'd be even more protective of her children right after she lost one in childbirth.
10-25-22, 10:53 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
They mentioned that Rhaenys was patrolling the narrow seas to block off trade to Kings Landing. But yes, Rhaenys was the one to send. Rhaenerya was at the tournament when that Baratheon gave Rhaenys the favor. She basically went to Storms End with nothing more than look at our dragon and swear your allegiance again. These lords have to supply fighters and gold in a war so the Hightower offer of a marriage alliance is the stronger offer.
10-25-22, 12:24 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Great finale to a fantastic season 
Everyone brought their A-game, from the cast, crew, creative talent, set designers, CGI, everything. Bring on season 2.
Hate to play the comparison game but House of the Dragon wildly succeeded in every way that Rings of Power failed.
Everyone brought their A-game, from the cast, crew, creative talent, set designers, CGI, everything. Bring on season 2.Hate to play the comparison game but House of the Dragon wildly succeeded in every way that Rings of Power failed.
10-25-22, 04:54 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Got an email from Warner about the first season 4K Steelbook.
10-26-22, 07:15 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Wow, this show was a slog to get through but really paid off on the last two episodes. The dragons looked amazing. This was like the Godfather II of the series so far, very drawn out and sometimes pointless but very well made.
10-27-22, 01:41 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
What subplots or story moments would you consider pointless? I thought it was tight as a drum.
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01-03-23, 05:13 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Apparently there was more to the story about Miguel Sapochnik quitting as co-showrunner. He wanted his wife to get a producing credit for season 2 and HBO said No.
01-03-23, 09:19 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Perhaps a marriage between teenage children of HBO executives and Sapochnik with an exchange of lands and titles could mend the alliance between House HBO and House Sapochnik.
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emanon (01-04-23)
03-26-23, 09:45 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Just finished this series last night. Why did Aemond have a blue eye like a wight or white walker? And what illness killed Viserys? I know he cut himself on the Iron Throne, so was it simply a bacterial infection he got from the wound his doctors couldn't cure? All season long I kept waiting for someone to fall or get thrown onto those swords surrounding the throne. Maybe that will happen in later years and result in the extra swords getting removed for safety reasons, and then the throne will end up looking like the one from GOT.
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03-26-23, 11:29 AM
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03-26-23, 05:02 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Just finished this series last night. Why did Aemond have a blue eye like a wight or white walker? And what illness killed Viserys? I know he cut himself on the Iron Throne, so was it simply a bacterial infection he got from the wound his doctors couldn't cure? All season long I kept waiting for someone to fall or get thrown onto those swords surrounding the throne. Maybe that will happen in later years and result in the extra swords getting removed for safety reasons, and then the throne will end up looking like the one from GOT.
03-27-23, 09:27 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
The actor said that Viserys has a "form of leprosy" but I have to imagine it's a fictional equivalent since the people around him didn't get it (unless there's some non ultra contagious form of leprosy I'm not aware of).
03-27-23, 02:45 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
That's the impression that I got. Who knows what he would catch from the remnants of blood on those swords. And the throne kept cutting him each time he would sit on it, prolonging the infection, reinfecting him and not allowing the previous cuts to heal.
03-27-23, 03:52 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
They have a lot of exotic stuff, including illnesses, in Martin's world.
I'd guess that he kept cutting himself on the throne (or the throne was cutting him), and his wounds got infected with some weird Westeros leprosy-like disease.
I'd guess that he kept cutting himself on the throne (or the throne was cutting him), and his wounds got infected with some weird Westeros leprosy-like disease.
03-28-23, 08:26 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Season 2 episode order cut to 8 and they are hoping for a summer 2024 premiere
03-28-23, 09:03 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
They claim it's "story driven"
An HBO spokesperson, who confirmed to Deadline that Season 2 will contain 8 episodes, stressed that the episode count trim was story-driven.
An HBO spokesperson, who confirmed to Deadline that Season 2 will contain 8 episodes, stressed that the episode count trim was story-driven.
03-29-23, 06:15 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
Cutting it probably allows them to milk another season out of it (I think season 1 was around 1/3 of the section of the book this takes place) and with the war being the main story going forward there's going to be a lot of VFX that need to be done that will be expensive along with the shortage of VFX artists.
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03-29-23, 06:53 AM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
There is a lot of info in the article and worth noting. Doesn't seem like an issue and sounds like they are preparing for a four season run, which was the goal.
EXCLUSIVE: The upcoming second season of HBO’s House of the Dragon will consist of eight episodes, two fewer than Season 1 of the Critics Choice Award-winning Game of Thrones prequel. It is part of a long-term plan for the show, which includes HBO mulling a green light for a third season, I have learned.
The news comes as production is about to begin on Season 2 in the UK for a likely summer 2024 premiere.
In what is a relatively common practice, HBO did not reveal the episode order in the Season 2 renewal announcement last summer. I hear the initial plan was for another 10-episode arc, which eventually changed, leading to some script rewrites. Given the leadership change at HBO’s parent company, some pointed at Warner Bros. Discovery leadership’s focus on cost-cutting. An HBO spokesperson, who confirmed to Deadline that Season 2 will contain 8 episodes, stressed that the episode count trim was story-driven.
It has been reported that House of the Dragon’s creative team had envisioned the series running for three or four seasons. I hear executive producer-showrunner Ryan Condal, working with author/executive producer George R.R. Martin, took a step back as Season 2 was being put together to take a big-picture view of the series, which follows Martin’s Fire & Blood, and figure out the overall narrative flow, including how to break up the stories season-to-season and what battles to include and when.
As part of that, I hear Season 3 has been mapped out and might be greenlighted, with HBO seriously considering committing to moving ahead with scripts, casting and a production plan as the network too is trying to think long-term instead of season-to-season.
With a portion of the plot originally intended for Season 2, including a major battle, moving to Season 3, I hear it is now more likely that the series would run for four seasons, but that has not been determined as Condal and Martin continue to go back-and-forth on the number of seasons (three or four) that would be optimal to tell the full story, sources said.
In an October blog post, Martin spoke of the fact that HBO series like The Sopranos used to get 13 episodes a season, which had changed to 10 by the time Game of Thrones came along. The Emmy-winning fantasy juggernaut produced six 10-episode seasons, leading into the final 13-episode chapter that was split into two. This is more than the eight-episode seasons of Amazon’s LOTR: The Rings of Power, he noted.
“I am thrilled that we still have 10 hours every season to tell our tale,” Martin said about House of the Dragon. “I hope that will continue to be true. It is going to take four full seasons of 10 episodes each to do justice to the Dance of the Dragons, from start to finish.”
House of the Dragon is set 172 years before the events of Game of Thrones and tells the story of House Targaryen.
Warner Bros. Discovery’s new regime embraced the series last summer, supporting the $200M production with the biggest marketing campaign in HBO’s history, which reached 130M people in the U.S. by company estimates.
It led to a big ratings splash for the series’ August 21 premiere, which was followed by a Season 2 renewal a few days later.
The news comes as production is about to begin on Season 2 in the UK for a likely summer 2024 premiere.
In what is a relatively common practice, HBO did not reveal the episode order in the Season 2 renewal announcement last summer. I hear the initial plan was for another 10-episode arc, which eventually changed, leading to some script rewrites. Given the leadership change at HBO’s parent company, some pointed at Warner Bros. Discovery leadership’s focus on cost-cutting. An HBO spokesperson, who confirmed to Deadline that Season 2 will contain 8 episodes, stressed that the episode count trim was story-driven.
It has been reported that House of the Dragon’s creative team had envisioned the series running for three or four seasons. I hear executive producer-showrunner Ryan Condal, working with author/executive producer George R.R. Martin, took a step back as Season 2 was being put together to take a big-picture view of the series, which follows Martin’s Fire & Blood, and figure out the overall narrative flow, including how to break up the stories season-to-season and what battles to include and when.
As part of that, I hear Season 3 has been mapped out and might be greenlighted, with HBO seriously considering committing to moving ahead with scripts, casting and a production plan as the network too is trying to think long-term instead of season-to-season.
With a portion of the plot originally intended for Season 2, including a major battle, moving to Season 3, I hear it is now more likely that the series would run for four seasons, but that has not been determined as Condal and Martin continue to go back-and-forth on the number of seasons (three or four) that would be optimal to tell the full story, sources said.
In an October blog post, Martin spoke of the fact that HBO series like The Sopranos used to get 13 episodes a season, which had changed to 10 by the time Game of Thrones came along. The Emmy-winning fantasy juggernaut produced six 10-episode seasons, leading into the final 13-episode chapter that was split into two. This is more than the eight-episode seasons of Amazon’s LOTR: The Rings of Power, he noted.
“I am thrilled that we still have 10 hours every season to tell our tale,” Martin said about House of the Dragon. “I hope that will continue to be true. It is going to take four full seasons of 10 episodes each to do justice to the Dance of the Dragons, from start to finish.”
House of the Dragon is set 172 years before the events of Game of Thrones and tells the story of House Targaryen.
Warner Bros. Discovery’s new regime embraced the series last summer, supporting the $200M production with the biggest marketing campaign in HBO’s history, which reached 130M people in the U.S. by company estimates.
It led to a big ratings splash for the series’ August 21 premiere, which was followed by a Season 2 renewal a few days later.
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Thos19 (04-04-23)
03-30-23, 05:55 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
If the drop in quality is the same as Westworld then yeah. Otherwise I think Westworld would've still had legs.
04-02-23, 03:22 PM
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Re: House of the Dragon (S1E10) -- Season Finale -- "The Black Queen" -- 10/23/22
I never got into GoT but am somewhat interested in this show. Given it's a prequel, am I safe to assume I can dive in without having gone through anything beyond season one of GoT?