The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
12-30-21 | 02:51 PM
#176
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
In terms of the story, i see no huge differences as it's all European Culture Fantasy stuff to me.. Same ole, same ole...been there a lot and done that. I mean it's all swords and monsters, witches and prophecies, Elves and dwarfves, etc. But I'm more talking about the quality of the sets, costumes, and the acting on The Witcher compared to WoT.
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12-31-21 | 07:31 PM
#177
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Yep, was expecting GOT and it barely surpassed Shannara. Feel like book readers oversold this thing, but production really dropped the ball. The first 4-5 episodes are mostly a waste; just introducing the generic unmemorable characters then having them travel back and forth until the last couple episodes. Which was too little too late and unsatisfying.
That said the first season was not really that strong. High hopes for Season 2 which has a much more straightforward arc.
01-02-22 | 04:17 PM
#178
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Nice look at the sets:
01-03-22 | 05:56 AM
#179
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Part of the problem with the show's visual quality. We get too much of a "nice look at the sets". The lighting is really bad. There's no depth, no contrast, no context. Everything is just evenly lit, perfectly visible, even when the source is supposed to flickering candles. It makes every scene look like a stageplay and not a real world place.
01-03-22 | 01:39 PM
#180
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Part of the problem with the show's visual quality. We get too much of a "nice look at the sets". The lighting is really bad. There's no depth, no contrast, no context. Everything is just evenly lit, perfectly visible, even when the source is supposed to flickering candles. It makes every scene look like a stageplay and not a real world place.
01-04-22 | 12:42 PM
#181
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
I think that's it -- the world did not feel "lived in". Kind of like the Star Wars prequels, in a sense. Great looking sets, but they still felt like sets.
Also the revelation that the local Peddler was secretly a servant of "The Dark One" has exactly zero impact. We saw him in one small scene, once, in the first episode. Out of sight, out of mind. Big yawner.
Also the revelation that the local Peddler was secretly a servant of "The Dark One" has exactly zero impact. We saw him in one small scene, once, in the first episode. Out of sight, out of mind. Big yawner.
01-04-22 | 06:06 PM
#182
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
When you're making these high fantasy tv series and movies, you really need to make their world a living, vibrant place.
The Game of Thrones world felt old and lived-in, like Winterfell and the Red Keep and The Wall felt like they had been standing for centuries, and you could feel the history in them. The clothes they wore felt worn, the armor and weapons felt like it had seen innumerable battles.
It's kind of ironic that the fantasy worlds that are newer, cleaner, and well-pressed look cheaper (and probably are) than the grungier, grimier worlds.
01-06-22 | 11:09 AM
#183
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
If I could pile on, the stakes also seemed very small. In those last episodes when they were supposedly fighting the final battle, they had this tiny little army (outside their tiny little town with no suburbs) and five magic women. Didn't seem that massive.
The only part of this season that I found genuinely surprising and unique was that flashback to 3000 years ago and the previous Dragon Reborn, where they show the shot of the city with ships flying around.
The only part of this season that I found genuinely surprising and unique was that flashback to 3000 years ago and the previous Dragon Reborn, where they show the shot of the city with ships flying around.
01-06-22 | 11:24 AM
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
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01-07-22 | 09:36 AM
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01-07-22 | 01:48 PM
#186
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
In the books, Rand basically deals with the events at the end all by himself. I can see why the showrunners wanted to change that up to include more of their actors. But the book is right there if anyone prefers it that way.
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01-07-22 | 05:11 PM
#187
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Yeah but a bit of throwaway dialogue is not enough to establish sonething so important to the plot.
01-07-22 | 05:30 PM
#188
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
The characters displayed their powers several times during the season, especially Nynaeve.
01-07-22 | 05:33 PM
#189
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Rand is the dragon reborn but the show runners decided to side line him. Random 3 women and Nynaeve and Egwene defeated thousands of Trollocs while Rand had 2 dream sequences and an awkward “final battle.” We know more about Siuan and her dad than we do about Rand and his dad. They spent almost an entitre episode on a random minor character who killed himself but did nothing to advance the plot. Moraine spent 20 years looking for the dragon reborn but decides to let him peace out and go off to wherever. It is some bad story choices. I am not hopeful for season 2 at all.
That said, apparently just showing the 7 Towers of Malkier was a huge battle so who knows how many changes were dictated by Amazon.
I am actually really optimistic about Season 2 as it has a totally different vibe and plotline. It should be very exciting and introduce some incredibly important new characters. It is the book that most reads like a movie script
07-21-22 | 07:42 PM
#190
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Renewed for a 3rd season before season 2 airs.
Have not started this series yet. Way behind on a lot of new series.
Have not started this series yet. Way behind on a lot of new series.
07-22-22 | 09:51 AM
#191
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
I think the consensus in this thread is you could skip it. Nobody was enamored with the final product. Some good concepts and scenes, but largely fell flat.
07-22-22 | 12:01 PM
#192
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
I’m somewhat lukewarm on the first season, but am hopeful it’ll get better. There’s a lot of great stuff to mine from the books. I realize it’s not an entirely fair comparison, but based on the first season of this and having read the books, I have higher hopes for it eventually being great than I do for the new GoT or LotR prequels, based on what we’ve seen so far of them.
07-22-22 | 12:15 PM
#193
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
However, if they can get back to the story as in the books it should get quite compelling. The first season was really affected by Covid as well.
05-24-23 | 05:45 PM
#194
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Season 2 is coming September 1st.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/the-whe...235378242/amp/
https://deadline.com/2023/05/the-whe...235378242/amp/
Prime Video has set September 1 for the Season 2 premiere of fantasy epic series The Wheel of Time. It comes almost two years after the series’ first season scored one of the streamer’s biggest premieres. We’re also getting a first look at the second season in some new images released today.
Based on the best-selling Robert Jordan fantasy series The Wheel of Time, a humble farm boy, Rand al’Thor (Josha Stradowski), learns he is The Dragon Reborn—a dangerous figure from history destined to save the world … or break it. Desperate to protect him from the Dark One, an army of powerful sorceresses must reckon with his burgeoning power and encroaching madness. The Wheel of Time turns, and the Last Battle approaches. Though Rand thought he destroyed the Dark One, evil is not gone from the world. In Season Two, threats new and very old seek out the young friends from the Two Rivers, now scattered over the world. The woman who found and guided them is now powerless to help, and so they must find other sources of strength. In each other, or themselves. In the Light … or the Dark.
Based on the best-selling Robert Jordan fantasy series The Wheel of Time, a humble farm boy, Rand al’Thor (Josha Stradowski), learns he is The Dragon Reborn—a dangerous figure from history destined to save the world … or break it. Desperate to protect him from the Dark One, an army of powerful sorceresses must reckon with his burgeoning power and encroaching madness. The Wheel of Time turns, and the Last Battle approaches. Though Rand thought he destroyed the Dark One, evil is not gone from the world. In Season Two, threats new and very old seek out the young friends from the Two Rivers, now scattered over the world. The woman who found and guided them is now powerless to help, and so they must find other sources of strength. In each other, or themselves. In the Light … or the Dark.
05-25-23 | 01:19 AM
#195
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Not a huge deal yet it would be cool if eight-episode seasons like this could be once a year and not almost two. Likely reasons for that this time around.
05-25-23 | 03:17 PM
#196
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Guess this means I need to try and watch the first season. The wife is a huge fan of the novels (I've never cracked one), but I heard not a peep about the show after she watched it. Not a good sign. But if I get caught up at least this is something we could watch together.
05-30-23 | 06:08 PM
#197
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
05-30-23 | 09:41 PM
#198
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05-30-23 | 10:38 PM
#199
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
I think I watched this. I don't remember. I'm not even interested enough to scroll through the thread to see if I posted here.
I bet I watched this. Isn't there like a big gate in a field toward the end?
I'm not the epitome of viewership, but if my attitude is anything like a lot of other potential viewers, they're in trouble.
I bet I watched this. Isn't there like a big gate in a field toward the end?
I'm not the epitome of viewership, but if my attitude is anything like a lot of other potential viewers, they're in trouble.
05-30-23 | 11:16 PM
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