Lovecraft Country (HBO) -- From EP Jordan Peele and J.J. Abrams -- Premieres 8/16/20
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I thought it was pretty good so far. The book had an unusual format in that the story was told as 4 or 5 short stories or novellas that were connected and continued the overarching story. Each story had a different main character, but it was all characters we’ve seen already in this first episode. Anyway, this episode only covered a portion of the first story so I’m not sure where the other poster further up is getting that this has already adapted a lot of the book. There’s a lot of story left, but I have to wonder if it’ll really tell these stories from the other character’s POVs (if they’re all told at all) or if they get reworked to include more of Atticus in each one.
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James Loewen wrote a book on Sundown Towns that fairly comprehensive. I recommend it.
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Then in this show, I googled Sundown towns and the Green book and was far less surprised to find it real too.
Gives one some perspective about how deeply racism is embedded and how whitewashed history is. I do not want to see it in every show I watch but to be honest I am glad it was included in these shows to wake me up a bit.
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But yeah, I've seen the racism in some stories, no doubt. You take a great story like The Rats in the Walls. Pretty scary, moody, and atmospheric. But seriously, Howie, did you have to name the black cat.....well, I'm sure you can guess. Could have named it "Midnight", or "Shadow", but no, he went with....that.
Most of Lovecraft's most virulent racism is in his letters; he was a prolific letter-writer.
His racism was of a brand that he basically considered any person not descended from England or Northern Europe to be subhuman. He had little use for Jews, Russians, or Italians, considering them to be racially inferior.
He was, for a time, married to a woman who was a Russian Jew, though he justified this by believing that, by marrying him, she elevated her status above the "mongrel" that she was.
A sampling of Lovecraft's views on race and ethnicity... (Spoilered for length.)
Spoiler:
#30
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Lovecraft also wasn't a fan of women either, something many screenwriters and casting directors have had to deal with when adapting his work for film; there's often ZERO female characters.
#31
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I’m starting to think this Lovecraft guy was kind of a dick.
#32
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New episode was epic! Loved the music placement including one artist that came out of left field, but rocked. From next week's preview seems like the storylines are expanding out. As if episode 1 & 2 are part of an arc and the next arc begins next week.
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I didn’t think the second episode was as strong as the first but it’s certainly an interesting show.
It felt like a stupid character decision to be caught out in the woods after dark considering what Atticus has just experienced the night before. I was glad to see the mansion go down at the end. I was worried the story would keep them there for an extended period and I was already tired of it with just this one episode.
It felt like a stupid character decision to be caught out in the woods after dark considering what Atticus has just experienced the night before. I was glad to see the mansion go down at the end. I was worried the story would keep them there for an extended period and I was already tired of it with just this one episode.
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Whitey On The Moon during the ritual was pretty great. It was the first time I heard the song. And it took a little extra concentration to listen and pay attention to what was happening. Caught me off guard.
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I didn’t think the second episode was as strong as the first but it’s certainly an interesting show.
It felt like a stupid character decision to be caught out in the woods after dark considering what Atticus has just experienced the night before. I was glad to see the mansion go down at the end. I was worried the story would keep them there for an extended period and I was already tired of it with just this one episode.
It felt like a stupid character decision to be caught out in the woods after dark considering what Atticus has just experienced the night before. I was glad to see the mansion go down at the end. I was worried the story would keep them there for an extended period and I was already tired of it with just this one episode.
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So I watched both episodes last night.
1st episode, loved. Loved that it started out as a period drama and then BOOM!! It goes full up horror.
2nd episode. Hmmm. I was watching pretty late and maybe I was a little tired, but it was really strange. I guess it tries to go a little more into the mythology, but to me they just crammed in so much stuff into that hour. I could barely keep up with everything going on. Then Leti dies, is resurrected and then Uncle George ends up dead at the end. Not sure I quite get everything that happened with Tic. So Tony Goldwyn's character is now dead I assume? It felt a little all over the place.
I was amused when they opened with the Jeffersons theme.
1st episode, loved. Loved that it started out as a period drama and then BOOM!! It goes full up horror.
2nd episode. Hmmm. I was watching pretty late and maybe I was a little tired, but it was really strange. I guess it tries to go a little more into the mythology, but to me they just crammed in so much stuff into that hour. I could barely keep up with everything going on. Then Leti dies, is resurrected and then Uncle George ends up dead at the end. Not sure I quite get everything that happened with Tic. So Tony Goldwyn's character is now dead I assume? It felt a little all over the place.
I was amused when they opened with the Jeffersons theme.
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googled the poem/song--it came up before I'd even finished typing Whitey lol....
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I realized after the poem (which really took me away) that I had barely paid attention to anything on the screen and it was important to the plot. So mebbe too distracting? Had to back up and rewatch that part. But good stuff.
googled the poem/song--it came up before I'd even finished typing Whitey lol....
googled the poem/song--it came up before I'd even finished typing Whitey lol....
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Never read any of Lovecraft himself, I found his prose style next to impossible. I haven't admitted that before, but I don't feel as bad about it now that I know what a racist asshole he was.
I've seen most of the movie adaptations, which are generally so loosely based that you'd never know when two are based on the same story. Jeffrey Combs was a local high-school acquaintance, which also half-explains why I'm a DS9 partisan.
I've seen most of the movie adaptations, which are generally so loosely based that you'd never know when two are based on the same story. Jeffrey Combs was a local high-school acquaintance, which also half-explains why I'm a DS9 partisan.
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Solid second episode, but agree not as strong as the first. I had to rewind several scenes in the mansion to figure out what was what exactly. The fact that they wound up in the woods after sundown again seemed pretty foolish. Sad ending to the episode with Uncle George.
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"Whitey's on the Moon" seemed really odd because more of a spoken word poem, and it almost felt like part of the scene, and all I can think about is how this series takes place about fifteen years before Apollo 11.
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I'm kind of liking it. I love Vance, he's always great. The main character is fine, but I don't like Smollett. She reminds me of Ola Ray in Michael Jackson's "Thriller", especially when she screams. Annoying.
I really enjoyed seeing my neighborhood in the first episode. In Chicago, they took 3 blocks of 18th street and turned it into the 1950s. I walked around the area when filming finished and what a treat to see it.
I really enjoyed seeing my neighborhood in the first episode. In Chicago, they took 3 blocks of 18th street and turned it into the 1950s. I walked around the area when filming finished and what a treat to see it.
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The opening (tonight's episode) had a weird segue that threw me off in how it showed the passage of time from the end of last week's story arc. I thought the episode was cool and reminded me of 13 Ghosts.
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Here’s a bit of local-ish news from my state.
https://www.cbs42.com/news/local/lov...sundown-towns/
These areas are north of Birminham, and frankly I think they’re STILL considered sundown towns to an extent. Most of my life I’ve heard people only half-jokingly say “Don’t let the sun set on your black ass in Walker County.” Walker Co. is one of those places pretty much everyone from AL knows about, not in a good way.
https://www.cbs42.com/news/local/lov...sundown-towns/
These areas are north of Birminham, and frankly I think they’re STILL considered sundown towns to an extent. Most of my life I’ve heard people only half-jokingly say “Don’t let the sun set on your black ass in Walker County.” Walker Co. is one of those places pretty much everyone from AL knows about, not in a good way.
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I liked this episode the best so far. The drama of the neighbours was horrifying, and played perfectly into a "haunted house" story.
I also thought the visual effects were a huge step-up from the cartoonish CGI in the first episode.
Saw this on twitter and was really creeped out/bummed out:
I also thought the visual effects were a huge step-up from the cartoonish CGI in the first episode.
Saw this on twitter and was really creeped out/bummed out:
Spoiler:
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Wow - wonder if he'll be mentioned again, or if that was just the one scene. Kudos to the show for incorporating that - he was indeed from Chicago. I did not recognize the tie, so didn't catch it.
I also liked this episode - the show is going with an anthology series feel, while keeping the main characters across the stories (and an underlying mystery across all of them). I haven't read the source material, but from what was mentioned above, seems to be what the book did as well.
I also liked this episode - the show is going with an anthology series feel, while keeping the main characters across the stories (and an underlying mystery across all of them). I haven't read the source material, but from what was mentioned above, seems to be what the book did as well.
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Once I figured out where this episode fit in the timeline (I spent the first 10-15 minutes thinking it was a flashback or alternate timeline) I enjoyed it the best of the first 3 episodes. Of course, I find haunted house stories a lot scarier and more interesting than satanic cult stories.
The Emmett Till connection is spooky. I wondered if they would expand on that kid’s story after the Ouija board scene.
The Emmett Till connection is spooky. I wondered if they would expand on that kid’s story after the Ouija board scene.
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I thought maybe the kid was a connection to Emmett Till considering the anniversary of his death was this past week but I wasn't sure.
The rough ride the cops put Leti through in the episode made me think of Freddie Gray.
The rough ride the cops put Leti through in the episode made me think of Freddie Gray.
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Re: Lovecraft Country (HBO) -- From EP Jordan Peele and J.J. Abrams -- Premieres 8/16/20
"Whitey on the moon" poem talks about how with all the suffering going on in the world white people have the luxury of spending time thinking about getting to the moon. Or in this case "going back to Eden" where all the white men can rule again and live forever.
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