Noonan

This show is so good. Dule's band singing the OG theme this past week was great.

This is Us has me spoiled though; I want this show to also have segments with Cheadle and his family in more recent times.

Michael Corvin

The show is definitely growing into itself but I'll agree 100% with movieguru. The show is totally missing a solid opening tune.

albert_m

I finally had time to watch the pilot. I was (and still am) a fan of the original show. I was close to Kevin Arnold's age as well when it aired.

I thought the premise of a different point of view for the 60s sounded promising. I think that they set it up to be decent. While watching the pilot and seeing that there was a brother in Vietnam, I thought that was going to be the new show's take on the pilot of the old show. But so far, there is no real "Winnie" in the kid's life, so I totally expected bad news to be from Vietnam, though it makes sense for it to be what they did. I'm sure that the war will play into the show like it did with the original one.

MrX

Fred Savage was fired as EP after an investigation into inappropriate conduct.

https://deadline.com/2022/05/fred-sa...ct-1235018451/

Deftones

Sad to see Fred Savage is an asshole.

DJariya

That does suck if he was an ass and verbally abusive to his crews. No one deserves to be treated like that in the workplace.

I dealt with some really awful people who were my bosses early in my career in TV who cursed me out and made me feel really small and worthless. It kills morale and ruins your self esteem. Took me years to regain my confidence after that chapter of my life.

I hope he doesn’t get “canceled” but does get help if he has anger issues. I know making TV is hard and there are deadlines, but working on a TV show should not be a shitty experience.

MrX

Hope it doesn’t hurt it’s chances at being renewed, I’ve enjoyed it.

They tied this version with the original a few episodes

Michael Corvin

^ interesting. We still have a handful to watch to finish up. It's good, but just not at the top of the must watch list.

JZ1276

When ever something like this gets out, I don't believe people should assume the accused is an asshole and abusive, etc. These days the world revolves around people's feelings, which are subjective. Last week it was Bill Murray, this week Savage and next week will be someone else.

Noonan

Outside of the Savage drama, anyone else still enjoying this show? It's one of my favorites now. I wish they played the full theme song every week rather than only on occasion.

movieguru

I'm liking it. At first I thought it was a cheap stunt to capitalize off the original show's name, but this show really stands on it's own. I'm glad they don't try and rehash similar stories and have the show focus on the lead kid and his "Winnie Cooper". The only downside is I don't feel they fully capture the nostalgic feel of the late 1960's like the original show did. I wish they would have gave it an old school theme sequence and theme song like the original to really give it a retro feel.

lisadoris

I love the show and I'm so happy that Savage's behind the scene's drama didn't tank a second season.

Michael Corvin

Well we have rounded a corner and it's now Must See TV for us. I know exactly when it happened too. It was the episode, "I'm with the Band," where Dean loses first chair sax. The story, the humor and the cast just really gelled for the first time that episode, from the main cast to the supporting cast, that episode was just perfect. We're a handful of episodes past that one and it seems like everyone has just slipped into their roles perfectly since that point. So kudos to the cast and especially the writing staff for giving them some solid material to work with.

We still have a handful left, but am looking forward to getting to them. I thought for sure that a family show like this would be a one-and-done in our crumbling and hate filled world where every show has to have mean spirited characters, so I'm super happy ABC picked it up for another season. It truly is a breath of fresh air in the TV landscape. Who would have thought, given it's a remake of such a revered classic.

I can agree with that, but on the flipside should it be? A black family growing up in Montgomery, Alabama in the late 60s may not have the same nostalgia as white middle class America did. Then again, I'm a middle aged, genX, middle class white guy so I may be way off base. Someone more in the know would have to chime in. I do like how they brush on racism (side glances, weird looks and vibes, etc.) without it drowning out the family aspect of the show. The door is there for them to get heavier too which would also be interesting.

movieguru

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of making the them look like it was shot using Super 8 home video film complete with artifacts flickering in the video as well as the choppiness from the less frames per second used with that type of film. When my parents got married, they purchased one of these cameras and made a number of home movies with the same type of playback quality. Seeing that in the original show's theme instantly made someone think of the 1960's. The new show just kind of jumps right into the story without having the theme as a reference point. The theme music feels more modern, unlike the original, and doesn't make me think of the 1960's.

When the original show first came out, there was only twenty years separating present day from the era depicted on the tv screen. We are much more far removed from that now with 53 years separating the story from the present day. A slight nitpick, but the present day narrator should sound much more like a man in his late 60's then someone in their 30's or 40's. I'm guessing they did that to keep it similar to the original, but the narrator's voice and attitude feels a bit too much off with what his true age should be.

While this series shows a black family in Montgomery, Alabama in the 1960's, this family appears to be much better off and more educated than the average black family in that era and in that part of the country. They touch on racism a bit in this show, but it would probably be much different if the family was less affluent.

Dvdlovr24

Don Cheadle will be 58 this year, so he’s not too far off.

movieguru

He's still younger and sounds more youthful. It feels like they are trying to keep it similar to the narrator in the original show. But the narrator in that show should sound like he was in his early to mid thirties because that was how old he should have been at that time. It's just a minor thing though and I like the show.

Michael Corvin

This will probably be unpopular but I think Cheadle is the weakest part of the show. Not to say he's bad but maybe he's just not a good voice actor. He needs to emote more. Everything is too monotone in a "I'm just reading this dialog for a paycheck" kind of way.

ViewAskewbian

Fred Savage's Wonder Years Reboot Colleagues Allege Sexual Harassment and Assault: 'His Eyes Would Go Dead'

Dark new details surrounding Fred Savage's abrupt firing from ABC's reboot of The Wonder Years are surfacing.

On Tuesday, The Hollywood Reporter published accounts of six female crew members alleging sexual harassment by Savage, 46. The story details the series of events leading up to the women sending a complaint to Disney and speaking to a human resources executive about their concerns with Savage's behavior toward women on set.

Per the report, the group of women are claiming they "saw two very different sides of Savage: a charismatic, seemingly supportive colleague and a far darker, angrier alter ego." They also claim he "could flip to the latter persona in an instant and in such moments, one says, 'His eyes would go dead.'" But one woman said he never behaved this way in front of actors or executives, who would only "see his absolute perfect, best face."

One former female employee described an encounter she said she had with Savage when she joined the crew for a night out at a local bar. Upon exiting the stall of the women's restroom, she claimed Savage was waiting for her. He allegedly proceeded to push her against a wall and "put his mouth on mine very forcefully." She was able to thwart his advances and leave, later ignoring an apology text from him on the matter.

Representatives for ABC did not immediately respond to PEOPLE's request for comment, but Savage did issue a statement to THR: "Since I was 6 years old, I have worked on hundreds of sets with thousands of people, and have always strived to contribute to an inclusive, safe and supportive work environment," it read.

"It is devastating to learn that there are co-workers who feel I have fallen short of these goals. While there are some incidents being reported that absolutely did not and could not have happened, any one person who feels hurt or offended by my actions is one person too many," the statement continued.

Norm de Plume

"Striven."

Jeez, it's just hard to picture Savage as a sexual predator.

AaronHernandez

I believe the original wonder years was cancelled because of what him and Jason Harvey did to some female crew members.

No wonder his acting was so good as a Professor who sexually harasses Topanga on Boy Meets World.

Count Dooku

I'll just quote what wikipedia says

Norm de Plume

I was aware of that and Alley Mills's reaction. When it's a single allegation or a couple of them, certainly there's the possibility of a vendetta on the part of the accuser(s). The more alleged victims come forward, the higher the likelihood of the accused's guilt. Therefore, with now six accusers, I find Savage's innocence improbable. It's just hard to imagine because of the wholesome image he has always projected, like Cosby.

Count Dooku

You need to read The Hollywood Reporter article that lays out the charges being made.

There are not six women accusing Savage of some kind of assault. There are six women saying that Savage was quick to anger and would become verbally abusive with yelling and insults, which echoes a charge made about Savage from The Grinder days: that Savage constantly hurled profanities at women employees.

What those six women also claim is that they observed him sexually harassing other women. For example. they claim that Savage made unwanted advances toward a young woman working for the production, but that woman is not accusing Savage of any workplace wrongdoing and, in fact, says that while she was working for the show, Savage was a good friend to her.
She says that after she was no longer working for the show, she attended a party where this happened:Make what you will of that, but she never reported his behavior to the police, and it didn't happen in the workplace, and she was no longer his employee.

The other charge again is not being made by "the victim," but involves Savage's behavior with a woman he was having an affair with, and how he treated her when the relationship went south. Again, all the charges about Savage's bad behavior towards this woman are what other people observed and what their impressions were.

Norm de Plume

^ Thanks. See, that's what I get for not reading the details before commenting.

JeffTheAlpaca

Season 2 premiered last night Wed 6/14/2023

Strange it is airing in the Summer and not the Fall or a mid-season replacement show or maybe something to fill time later this year if the strike continues?

Guess ABC does not have faith in the show.