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Sounds like a rumor, so I will wait for official confirmation before I freak out haha.

Only Orville news I have is that Jon Cassar (Director) confirmed that most of the season 3 episodes will be close to an hour long (as opposed to ~45 minutes, which former episodes were due to commercial breaks).

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I've seen it as a you.tube posting, -today, in fact, -but it's not a reliable site.

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I really hope not but was really worried about it because it seemed like such a fringe show and it seems like every show has to be a massive hit to justify itself these days.

I will always love Orville for giving us this moment.

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Until Seth McFarlane or another producer confirms it, The Orville is not cancelled.

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I saw that report maybe 2 weeks ago also. Something about they knew it would end after S3 when it moved to Hulu. Now I don't recall what site the article was posted to.

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I can only find one mention on twitter, by The Cinema Spot. No clue as to how reliable they are.

If this is true, it just deepens my hatred of streaming services getting their hands on awesome shows and then dropping them after 3 seasons. How do they expect to get a backlog of binge-able shows like Star Trek, Friends, Seinfeld, etc, if they don't invest in them?

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I don't even know if there are that many Trek newcomers who are fans of the Kurtzman era Trek.

I have seldom witness people even talk about the newer Trek shows except to say how bad they how.

I mean, the new shows are exclusive to a streaming service whose main perk is Trek-related media. Look at how little original content it has so far that isn't Trek. I think you almost have to a Trekkie to want to subscribe.

Am I wrong?

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Disco and Picard both had some great ideas and great moments, but were too interested in navel gazing to be really great overall.

The Orville has the advantage of being able to lift the TNG structure, and just get right into storytelling. It's what we wanted from Trek for so many years, just do more TNG style episodes.

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CBS I’m sure wants that casual fan though. They want to sell these new shows as more accessible to an audience who doesn’t care. I think they’ve been banking on the diehard Trek fans to flock to whatever they put out. Sadly some still do. There has been more of a divide though. Much like what happened with Star Wars and the Sequel Trilogy.

Star Trek has always been a bit of an odd franchise though. It’s something that has a fanbase for sure, but at the same time has long been looked at as the geekiest of the genre if you ask me. There aren’t many casual Trek fans. Maybe some who have seen a handful of the episodes and some of the movies. Generally though I find people love it or are indifferent to it.

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I probably count as more of a casual fan, both of Trek and Wars to be frank. But that's for another thread, I guess.

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Step outside of dvdtalk. This place is notorious for people complaining and hating shows/films and obsessively bitching in posts over and over and over. It's like a polite slice of Toxic Fandom that can't call each other names and cuss each other out. Anyway, there are tons of folks who love these shows. Some new to Trek many old...

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While I was caught a bit off guard at first, I came to appreciate the fact that The Orville took its sci-fi elements so seriously. MacFarlane could have easily just done something like Family Guy in space, but he chose to actually try and give us some stories with depth and add humor to lighten the mood, not be the whole show.

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I'm no Trekkie, I don't care about canon or what others believe a Trek show should be like. If I evaluate Discovery and the Orville on their own merits, Discovery started meh but managed to consistently improve while The Orville went the other direction and spun it's wheels. I won't miss it.

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I would agree with you about the direction both shows have taken. But I’d still like to see if a third season would improve. And season 2 wasn’t really bad, it just wasn’t on the same level as season 1. The two-parter regarding Isaac’s species and the Leighton Meester episode were great tv..

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I thought Season 2 was a significant improvement over Season 1 for the Orville. And Season 1 was really good.

If we only get 3 seasons I'll be OK with that. Not happy, of course, but OK. It was borderline on getting a 2nd season, let alone a 3rd, so if they get through 3 I'll be happy.

I love the show.

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Every time this thread moves up on the page and I see the words: "and why it has a place on TV" I think, "Hey Orville, there's a place for you on TV! Put some new episodes in there!"

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The worst thing about The Orville now is that it will no longer be on free TV. There doesn't seem to be an HD disc option and it looks like it will be at least $20 a season on Amazon. Does anyone know how many episodes will be in the new season?

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Wait for whole season, sign up for free Hulu trial, blast through it. No cost option.

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Did they even shoot any of season 3? I went through Jon Cassar's Twitter feed and there's nothing going back to March.

I'm afraid you won't see a 3rd season until late 2021 at the earliest.

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I think they'd shot most of the season when they got shut down.

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They are editing now, though I'm not sure how many episodes have filming completed.

I tweeted Jon Cassar a few weeks ago and got a response:


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I always found myself looking forward to each episode and enjoying them every time.

Can’t say that about any new Trek. :shrug:

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This is why I absolutely hate CBS's decision to use Star Trek as their sacrificial lamb to put on the alter of their stupid streaming service. With Star Trek being so different then us old folks are used to it would have been nice if the very least they had attracted a new audience. I'm all for new approaches for Star Trek as it is a really long running franchise that, in order to survive, has to evolve and attract new fans. How are you going to do that behind a paywall?! Especially when that paywall pretty much only caters to Star Trek fans.