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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by Noonan
(Post 14468747)
Anyone saying that is disingenuous. People hated Kenobi just as much, if not more.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14468714)
It's not impossible. They dumped Willow.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Actually, the icing on the cake would be removing it from canon :lol:
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by MLBFan24
(Post 14468938)
Actually, the icing on the cake would be removing it from canon :lol:
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by Artman
(Post 14468906)
I've seen some posts about Acolyte merch being completely removed from the Disney store, but I haven't bothered to check.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by MLBFan24
(Post 14468938)
Actually, the icing on the cake would be removing it from canon :lol:
Originally Posted by Cellar Door
(Post 14468941)
Make a Star Wars 'What if?' hub on Disney+ and stick it there.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
All traces of the property have been removed from the Disney store. Looks like they're going to act like this never happened.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by Noonan
(Post 14468747)
Anyone saying that is disingenuous. People hated Kenobi just as much, if not more.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by tstouder
(Post 14469108)
No, we didn't. Quite enjoyed Kenobi...found very little in The Acolyte to be fun and enjoyable other than bits and pieces of the last couple of episodes.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
In all fairness to the Acolyte, it was AWESOME for the first 10 minutes when Carrie Ann Moss was alive and went full Jedi-Fu... all downhill after that. I mean, they actually showed one of the most powerful Sith, ever, hiding in a fucking cave on some remote planet.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Yeah, I think I would have rather had a series about CAM's character than what we got.
It also continues this dumb Disney-era obsession with fan service cameos... Darth Maul in Solo, Leia in Rogue One, Boba Fett in Mandalorian,Cad Bane in Book of Book of Boba Fett, Qui Gon Jinn in Kenobi, and now Darth Plagueis here. With the exception of Fett in The Mandalorian, these never went anywhere and just sort of teased something better. (Though Leia in Rogue One was just fan service-y connective tissue.) |
Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Cad Bane is the only one that was worth while, and more than a cameo. Another season would help flesh him out, but doubt that will happen and if it does keep Rodriguez the fuck away. Cad and Cobb were the highlights of the show.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
I like the Maul cameo, it would've led somewhere if people actually saw Solo to merit a sequel. Lucas himself saw Maul as the head of the underworld in the sequel trilogy so it makes sense for him to be set up that way in Solo.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
I dislike "back from the dead / not really dead / somehow Palpatine returned" plots. It lessens the impact of the original death scene.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by Timber
(Post 14469631)
I like the Maul cameo, it would've led somewhere if people actually saw Solo to merit a sequel. Lucas himself saw Maul as the head of the underworld in the sequel trilogy so it makes sense for him to be set up that way in Solo.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
(Post 14468885)
This is basically what the discourse boils down to on social media... you have "fandom menace" culture warrior idiots who are screaming GET WOKE GO BROKE and on the other side you have an opposite group of reactionary idiots who think that anything with a diverse cast is automatically great.
There's no room for actual criticism of things like story, plot, production values, mythology, and world-building. I will say this though: As for the "woke-broke" thing, there is some merit to it. Why? Well, for the last decade or so they have been trying to sell certain types of movies to an audience that simply doesnt exist. Like - superhero, most sci-fi and action films have a largely male audience. The stats dont lie and they are out there. And, ready for this? Women are much more likely to go see rom-coms and films that target the traditional female. Uh oh. How could this be? Its called the way of things. The MCU, Star Wars, etc have all been saddled with forced diversity, especially the underdeveloped & instantly awesome female characters. Guess what? Its not a big seller. The male audience much prefers female leads like Leia, Ripley, Sarah Conner, etc. that earn their stripes and feel like real people versus corporate creations to push a narrative. In other words, trying to cater to audiences that dont exist means no money gets made. Period. They are starting to get it, I think. Look at two recent examples that got it right: Barbie was targeted right at women and it worked great. It didnt shove anything into that would deviate from the successful formula. It gave the viewers what they wanted. Made tons of money. Or, Top Gun Maverick. It was 100% action, tech and explosions. Just what us guys mostly want. No sappy, weak lead male characters that have to be one-upped by the girl boss. No side show crap with "feelings". Just good old guy stuff with competitions and an interesting story. Made tons of money. A recent failure is the Rings of Power show that has Girl boss nonsense at every turn. And, Middle Earth has characters that resemble downtown L.A. now due to forced casting. Whatever, LOL. I hope we get some legit GOOD Star Wars content now(like Andor) and the MCU gets back to business. Give the actual real fans what they want. |
Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
I thought the show was pretty mediocre overall with some pretty cool light saber scenes. Felt the story sucked, the writing was lazy, and the acting was CW level for the most part. Lee Jung Jae was amazing IMO for someone giving his lines close to phonetically. That being said, I would have no problem with them removing this from the platform entirely, In terms of removing it from canon, I wouldn't object to that entirely either. Just have a series with Darth Plagueis as the big bad and have him mention dispatching some unworthy followers to Palpatine/Sidious in passing.
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Outside of the one lightsaber battle (which may very well be the best and most brutal of the entire franchise) this show didn't click for me at all.
I do feel like when Star Wars strays away from the original trilogy era it loses its charm but that is just my 2 credits. |
Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by JoeyOhhhh
(Post 14469805)
Outside of the one lightsaber battle (which may very well be the best and most brutal of the entire franchise)
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
"Your floppy lightsaber... keep that, you may." :lol:
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
"Insiders explain that The Acolyte was canceled because viewership was bad, and that there’s really nothing more to it than that even though at least one cast member said they were surprised by the decision. I’m told that The Acolyte’s viewership collapsed following the first two episodes, whereas with Andor, viewership steadily climbed throughout the season, so the show was renewed for Season 2. Andor also drew exceptional reviews, whereas The Acolyte’s reviews were more mixed. Like all shows, The Acolyte was subject to an extensive notes process, but at the end of the day, it was very much the show that Headland wanted to make." Also, Keanu Reeves was apparently up for a role in the series, likely Sol, but there was a scheduling conflict that prevented him from signing on. Neo and Trinity would've been interesting. |
Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 14469956)
Also, Keanu Reeves was apparently up for a role in the series, likely Sol, but there was a scheduling conflict that prevented him from signing on. Neo and Trinity would've been interesting. |
Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
Here's a thought : If Keanu Reeves wants to work on your Star Wars project but has a scheduling conflict, you delay your shooting schedule to accommodate him, rather than casting a barely-known rising star who doesn't speak English for the part instead?
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Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
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Thought this was an interesting article. The Very Obvious Reason Disney Canceled ‘The Acolyte’ — It Wasn’t ‘Toxic Dudebros’ (forbes.com) |
Re: Star Wars: The Acolyte (Disney+) -- news, rumors, etc.
You cannot discount the effect that the whining from the Fandom Menace bros had on viewers.
If people don’t have time to watch every show out there then they look for reviews and see what’s buzzing online and if all they see is the complaining then they don’t watch. There is a very strong community of fans out there that gave it a chance and actually enjoyed it. It’s not perfect, but there’s plenty of worse tv shows that got the chance to find their footing and if The Acolyte had been given that chance it could have grown into something really good. |
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