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dex14 04-08-20 10:44 AM

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:lol:

funkyryno 04-08-20 04:34 PM

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The Most-Watched Show in America Is a Moral Failure

Carole Fuckin' Baskin is apparently writing for The Atlantic now.



There are no heroes in Tiger King. Not Joseph “Joe Exotic” Maldonado-Passage, whose stripy mullet you’ve surely seen on social media, accompanied by a teal sequined jacket so ostentatious that the adult tiger he’s posing with looks like an afterthought. Not Bhagavan “Doc” Antle, who, one former employee alleges, coerces teenage girls working 100-hour weeks at his ranch to reach “his level of enlightenment” by sleeping with him. Not Carole Baskin, the owner of a Florida sanctuary for big cats, who Tiger King insinuates—in a strikingly unjournalistic way—might have killed her husband. And definitely not Eric Goode, the New York hotelier and animal-rights activist who co-directed the series, whose elevator pitch for it seems to have been “What if Christopher Guest, but real?” and whose disdain for the dentally challenged and leopard-print-festooned characters he captures is Tiger King’s most discernible emotion.


The Questyen 04-08-20 06:42 PM

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That's a great article.

dex14 04-09-20 06:24 PM

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Deftones 04-10-20 08:59 PM

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Enjoyed the hell out of it. Crazy story. It definitely could have been 5or 6 eps, but it was still entertaining as hell. Basically everyone involved should be locked up to some extent.

dhmac 04-11-20 12:46 PM

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Ryan George's Pitch Meeting episode for "Tiger King"




(I forgot about that off-hand sardine oil comment until watching this)

tommyp007 04-11-20 04:15 PM

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I like Joel McHale, but damn he'll do anything for a paycheck.

dex14 04-12-20 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyp007 (Post 13721996)
I like Joel McHale, but damn he'll do anything for a paycheck.

He basically made the same joke at the end of the episode.

TomOpus 04-14-20 10:00 AM

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I liked E8. It's interesting to see how many of the participants felt how they came across and what they're doing now.

spainlinx0 04-14-20 10:18 AM

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I wish Baskins was interviewed, but it's obvious why she probably turned it down.

I think this really shows that Exotic is way worse than people here thought, and I'm glad it showed how shitty he really was from the people who were closest to him. Now maybe the internet can get rid of their weird hard-on of hate for Baskins exclusively, who even if she killed her husband doesn't seem as bad as the rest of them.

Also, I'm not defending her. I think all of the owners are terrible people.

General Zod 04-14-20 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude (Post 13720067)
-However, IMHO the biggest villain of this piece is CB. She makes herself out to be pure as the driven snow, but she's the biggest scum-bag of all.

A huge issue I have with CB's so-called "animal sanctuary" is that she's making as much money (if not more $) off of these animals as the "private zoos" run by people like JE & DA. So, I see 0 difference between her & the people she's claiming are exploiting the animals - which is EXACTLY what she's doing as well.

Well with the documentary you're provided with a one-way view of her. This article gives a little more definition to the differences between what she does and the others.

https://www.outsideonline.com/241141...g-cat-industry

spainlinx0 04-14-20 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by General Zod (Post 13723467)
Well with the documentary you're provided with a one-way view of her. This article gives a little more definition to the differences between what she does and the others.

https://www.outsideonline.com/241141...g-cat-industry

Good article.

Mike86 04-14-20 03:50 PM

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That story told about that woman bringing her horse to Joe Exotic thinking he would give it a good home and how he proceeded to shoot it after she left and used it as meat for the tigers was sad. What a piece of shit.

tanman 04-15-20 04:10 AM

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I want to know more about the behind the scenes and how this documentary got made. How did they get so much footage of key events? They even got footage of Joe moving his tigers in the middle of the night and then interviewed him while he was on the run? At first I thought it was footage from Kirkman's documentary but that all went up in flames. So how did they get all this footage? Did was Joe really filming himself this whole time? But it didn't seem like it because you could tell the difference in quality between his footage and the documentary's footage. If that's the case then the people that made Tiger King had the biggest break of all time that they happened to be following Joe while this whole murder for hire plot was going down with his subsequent arrest and trail? And then in addition to that the doc happens to get released as all of America is sitting at home with nothing else to do but watch this insane story? I mean that's just crazy lucky.

Also why would you willingly let someone film all of that illegal activity for a doc? I guess he was just that obsessed. But also if you're filming a doc and then your main subject talks about hiring someone to kill someone don't you have to report that to the police?

Jay G. 04-15-20 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tanman (Post 13723994)
I want to know more about the behind the scenes and how this documentary got made. How did they get so much footage of key events?

They started filming years ago, before Joe got in trouble. So yes, they basically lucked out getting this true-crime drama basically dropped in their lap while they were filming.

Netflix UK & Ireland did an interview with the director and producer that gives some more details:

DVD Josh 04-15-20 09:54 AM

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I don't know how anyone can honest say that Carole did not play some role in her husband's disappearance. 1) The restraining order, which other people in romantic relationships have filed against her; 2) the POA letter which references disappearance (those NEVER use that language); 3) the fact that POA was PREPARED by Baskins...even though Don had a lawyer; 4) the differences in the handwriting b/w the restraining order and POA letter; 5) there is no evidence I can find that she ever made any real effort to find him, offer a reward for information, ANYTHING that a wife would do when her husband goes up and missing out of the blue; 6) he would go to CR when Carole was on her period to fool around with other women; and 7) she has never sued anyone for slander or libel for claiming outright that she killed her husband and fed him to the cats. She is EXTREMELY litigious, you mean to tell me that if she was innocent she would fear having to testify under oath about her involvement or respond to discovery about it? Come on. This is all enough to convince me she was involved in his disappearance, and I personally believe she killed the guy,

d2cheer 04-15-20 11:29 AM

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Whoever investigated the first time did a piss poor job investigating Carole. There have been convictions for less I would bet.

Cellar Door 04-18-20 02:42 PM

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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e63c28625d.jpg

actionjackson29 04-19-20 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by d2cheer (Post 13724172)
Whoever investigated the first time did a piss poor job investigating Carole. There have been convictions for less I would bet.

With no body it’s hard to convict someone of murder. Plenty of crimes go unsolved when they can’t get the evidence.

dhmac 04-19-20 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 13724102)
I don't know how anyone can honest say that Carole did not play some role in her husband's disappearance

There's one possibility that would lead me to think Carole Fuckin' Baskin didn't kill her previous husband Don Lewis. That is the possibility that his plane went down over the Gulf of Mexico while flying to Costa Rica and sunk to to bottom of the ocean. I looked it up and going from Tampa, Florida to Costa Rica is about a 3 hour flight of around 1200 miles so his plane would need to have that range to make the trip. That's why a couple of questions I have is "What type of plane did Don Lewis own?" and "What happened to the plane?" But if that one possibility could be explained away then, yeah, I would conclude she killed him and successfully got rid of his body somehow.

Also, the t-shirt designs out there are hilarious, like this one

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...23a5f03030.jpg

Abob Teff 04-19-20 08:00 PM

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That theory relies on a single piece of information that I have not heard confirmation or denial of ... I know they said he flew without a license (and thus did not file flight plans) and owned multiple planes ... but was one missing?

The lawyer said his theory was somebody threw him out of a plane ... hence I tend to think there was no plane missing.

TheDude 04-20-20 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 13724102)
I don't know how anyone can honest say that Carole did not play some role in her husband's disappearance. 1) The restraining order, which other people in romantic relationships have filed against her; 2) the POA letter which references disappearance (those NEVER use that language); 3) the fact that POA was PREPARED by Baskins...even though Don had a lawyer; 4) the differences in the handwriting b/w the restraining order and POA letter; 5) there is no evidence I can find that she ever made any real effort to find him, offer a reward for information, ANYTHING that a wife would do when her husband goes up and missing out of the blue; 6) he would go to CR when Carole was on her period to fool around with other women; and 7) she has never sued anyone for slander or libel for claiming outright that she killed her husband and fed him to the cats. She is EXTREMELY litigious, you mean to tell me that if she was innocent she would fear having to testify under oath about her involvement or respond to discovery about it? Come on. This is all enough to convince me she was involved in his disappearance, and I personally believe she killed the guy,

Exactly. She either did it on her own, or with someone's help/assistance (possibly a family member). And, while I don't think she necessarily fed his body to the tigers....since she lives in FL where there is a lot of water/swampland, there are plenty of ways she could have disposed of the body without anyone ever finding a trace.

dhmac 04-21-20 01:03 PM

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Honest Trailer for "Tiger King"


Howiefan 04-21-20 03:34 PM

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Misogyny is real

TomOpus 06-02-20 12:20 AM

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Federal judge awards Carole Baskin control over 'Joe Exotic’s' former zoo



OKLAHOMA CITY —A federal judge on Monday granted control over “Joe Exotic’s” former zoo in Wynnewood to Carole Baskin, an animal rights activist whose feud with the former zoo owner was documented on a popular Netflix show.

Court documents show that Joseph Maldonado-Passage fraudulently transferred zoo ownership to his mother to avoid creditors.

Maldonado-Passage was convicted in April 2019 of conspiring to kill Baskin in Florida, along with killing five tigers, and selling and offering to sell tiger cubs. Maldonado-Passage, who is better known as “Joe Exotic,” was sentenced to serve 22 years in federal prison.

The feud between Maldonado-Passage and Baskin was featured earlier this year on the hit docuseries “Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness.”

The court ruling also ruled that the Greater Wynnewood Development Group has 120 days to leave the zoo premises. All of the animals at the zoo must also be removed from the area.

"After spending $2.5 million to secure a million-dollar judgement against Joe, we feel that her securing this land is the appropriate outcome," Jeff Lowe told sister station KOCO 5. "And that allows us sufficient time to open up Tiger King Park in Thackerville, behind the WinStar Casino."


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