Cobra Kai (YouTube) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 4/24/19
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First I'm going to start out with a bit of a rant. I was on the other current home media forum browsing around, and it was full of people saying they don't want to pay for YouTube, saying they refuse to watch it if season 1 isn't on Blu-Ray, one guy saying he won't pay for it but he's going to torrent it. Sigh. Guess people need to realize that if you don't pay for a show to watch it when it initially airs, there is no incentive to renew it, and Blu-Ray sales don't matter if people don't get YouTube premium. Morons.
Anyway, I haven't finished yet as I just finished episode 6 because I had to force myself to stop. Really, really enjoying this season so far and it's been fantastic, but I don't want to get into spoiler territory. The only real weakness I see so far is that the show is carried by Zabka and Machio( with Zabka really doing the heavy lifting) and bringing in Martin Kove has been a great addition. The problem is, when it tries to focus on the kids, they just aren't as interesting. The second biggest complaint is it's still painfully obvious that none of the cast have any martial arts experience and it shows in some of the sloppiness of the fight scenes. I can't wait for the next several episodes.
Anyway, I haven't finished yet as I just finished episode 6 because I had to force myself to stop. Really, really enjoying this season so far and it's been fantastic, but I don't want to get into spoiler territory. The only real weakness I see so far is that the show is carried by Zabka and Machio( with Zabka really doing the heavy lifting) and bringing in Martin Kove has been a great addition. The problem is, when it tries to focus on the kids, they just aren't as interesting. The second biggest complaint is it's still painfully obvious that none of the cast have any martial arts experience and it shows in some of the sloppiness of the fight scenes. I can't wait for the next several episodes.
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Overall, I do agree some of the fights are a little slow and clunky, but it is understandable. This isn't some HK action film.
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Re: Cobra Kai (YouTube) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 4/24/19
First I'm going to start out with a bit of a rant. I was on the other current home media forum browsing around, and it was full of people saying they don't want to pay for YouTube, saying they refuse to watch it if season 1 isn't on Blu-Ray, one guy saying he won't pay for it but he's going to torrent it. Sigh. Guess people need to realize that if you don't pay for a show to watch it when it initially airs, there is no incentive to renew it, and Blu-Ray sales don't matter if people don't get YouTube premium. Morons.
Cobra Kai could not have been made without the financial support of YouTube or it's subscribers. One of the creators, Jon Hurwitz, said that on his Twitter feed a year ago when someone asked why do I have to pay to watch this?
There's so much quality shows now than ever before and most of it could not have been made without the support of it's subscribers. People moan and groan about so many freaking streaming services taking all my money. Well, you know, fuck them. That's the world we live in now. If you claim you can't afford $10-11 for a month, you must be doing something wrong with your checkbook. Don't have fast food for a few weeks. Cut back on the Starbucks. There you have the money. If you don't support your favorite content legally, it can't get made. Don't be some entitled dickhead who thinks entertainment should be free.
Anyways, that's my rant.
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Yeah, I saw him last summer in Carmel. He is busy promoting Porsches and doing a documentary on his dad.
As for season 2 it felt like a long movie; just like the first. Sort of like a second part of a trilogy. I hope they don't go beyond a third season and just give us a good ending. The only thing I didn't like about is that fat dude. He reminded me of Bulk from Power Rangers. So, fucking irritating.
As for season 2 it felt like a long movie; just like the first. Sort of like a second part of a trilogy. I hope they don't go beyond a third season and just give us a good ending. The only thing I didn't like about is that fat dude. He reminded me of Bulk from Power Rangers. So, fucking irritating.
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First I'm going to start out with a bit of a rant. I was on the other current home media forum browsing around, and it was full of people saying they don't want to pay for YouTube, saying they refuse to watch it if season 1 isn't on Blu-Ray, one guy saying he won't pay for it but he's going to torrent it. Sigh.
But damn, if you want to see a show that badly, don't you think the people who worked so hard to produce it should be compensated for it?
Guess people need to realize that if you don't pay for a show to watch it when it initially airs, there is no incentive to renew it, and Blu-Ray sales don't matter if people don't get YouTube premium.
Another thing that people don't realize is that some shows like this probably wouldn't have gotten made if the only options were network television and cable.
People moan and groan about so many freaking streaming services taking all my money. Well, you know, fuck them. That's the world we live in now. If you claim you can't afford $10-11 for a month, you must be doing something wrong with your checkbook.
It's weird to see CBS, WarnerBros, and Disney creating their own paid, streaming platforms when they already own television networks and cable channels. If you want to check out these new talked about shows, paying for AmazonPrime, Netflix, Hulu, YouTubePremium, CBS All-Access etc, on top of your cable and internet bill...that adds up.
That's still no excuse to use torrents and cheat the content-creators out of making a living. If you think it's too pricey, simply don't watch it.
But people like that are just looking for an excuse to get something for nothing. Like people who pay to see one movie but then see another one, justifying it because the theater "charges too much for food and drink." If the food was free, they still would've snuck into a 2nd movie.
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Re: Cobra Kai (YouTube) -- Season 2 Thread -- premieres 4/24/19
First I'm going to start out with a bit of a rant. I was on the other current home media forum browsing around, and it was full of people saying they don't want to pay for YouTube, saying they refuse to watch it if season 1 isn't on Blu-Ray, one guy saying he won't pay for it but he's going to torrent it. Sigh. Guess people need to realize that if you don't pay for a show to watch it when it initially airs, there is no incentive to renew it, and Blu-Ray sales don't matter if people don't get YouTube premium. Morons.
I assume these are the same morons that still pirate music.
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Another solid season filled with even more nostalgia, but in a tasteful, not over the top way. Very interested to see where this heads.
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I watched the whole thing in one sitting yesterday. I'm still loving the show. My thoughts:
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Finished the season because I really, really wanted to get to episode 10. Overall, I really enjoyed it. If season 1 was a 5/5 for me, then I would give season 2 a 4.5/5. I agree that Zabka really carries this show, but I think that Machio is somewhat being underrated as well. I really buy into them both as well developed characters, with Machio's struggle to try and live up to Mr. Miyagi's legacy, and Johnny seeing the negative effect that Kreese was having on his students. I also appreciate how they still have fun at Johnny's expense and don't try to turn him into a cool guy. For me, the biggest weakness is still the kids, but by the final episode most of them grew on me. Not sure how I feel about Peyton List's character though since she seemed to only exist to be a foil to Samantha. I will give the cast credit too, they really stepped the fight choreography up in episode 10.
But man I look forward to a third season. Lots of unresolved questions that I can't wait to see how they decide to answer,
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But man I look forward to a third season. Lots of unresolved questions that I can't wait to see how they decide to answer,
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Ok, here's a theory about how that character could fit in to Season 3 and a connection to a new Season 2 character...
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^ Interesting theory....
Of the whole thing, IMO Dmitri is an annoying, mouthy dickhead that doesn't know when to shut up. I get why Hawk got tired of his shit.
Of the whole thing, IMO Dmitri is an annoying, mouthy dickhead that doesn't know when to shut up. I get why Hawk got tired of his shit.
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I enjoyed this season as much as the first and this is not a complaint but the entire series is basically a dramatic version of Three's Company, one misunderstanding after the next... And I can't believe I've been the only one to comment on Macchio's Trump comb-over.
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Finished last night. Great follow up to the first season.
I hope they make it as a trope of the show to have Daniel and Johnny have a meal somewhere, almost bond, and have everything gained blown to hell the next day.
I hope they make it as a trope of the show to have Daniel and Johnny have a meal somewhere, almost bond, and have everything gained blown to hell the next day.
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I'm watching this and it's sad and awesome at the same time. We have two late-middle aged men replaying their youth. It's both brilliant and tragic.
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this show has to be the most surprising show in history. Who would have thought a movie from the 80s with shitty acting can lead us to them 30 years later and make me give a shit.
this show is so good and worth the subscription.
this show is so good and worth the subscription.
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Now I have to go and rewatch the 2nd and 3rd movies because I barely remember either of them (other than they sucked).
The more I watch the more I think they're both idiots.
The more I watch the more I think they're both idiots.
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I agree that 3 sucked for the most part, but it had moments.
But, I totally disagree about 2. It was a good follow up to the 1st movie and I loved the setting in Okinawa, Japan giving some of Miyagi's backstory. Some of that movie was referenced in the show. Part 2 was actually a huge box office hit and made more money than the 1st movie.
But, I totally disagree about 2. It was a good follow up to the 1st movie and I loved the setting in Okinawa, Japan giving some of Miyagi's backstory. Some of that movie was referenced in the show. Part 2 was actually a huge box office hit and made more money than the 1st movie.
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I agree that 3 sucked for the most part, but it had moments.
But, I totally disagree about 2. It was a good follow up to the 1st movie and I loved the setting in Okinawa, Japan giving some of Miyagi's backstory. Some of that movie was referenced in the show. Part 2 was actually a huge box office hit and made more money than the 1st movie.
But, I totally disagree about 2. It was a good follow up to the 1st movie and I loved the setting in Okinawa, Japan giving some of Miyagi's backstory. Some of that movie was referenced in the show. Part 2 was actually a huge box office hit and made more money than the 1st movie.
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I agree that 3 sucked for the most part, but it had moments.
But, I totally disagree about 2. It was a good follow up to the 1st movie and I loved the setting in Okinawa, Japan giving some of Miyagi's backstory. Some of that movie was referenced in the show. Part 2 was actually a huge box office hit and made more money than the 1st movie.
But, I totally disagree about 2. It was a good follow up to the 1st movie and I loved the setting in Okinawa, Japan giving some of Miyagi's backstory. Some of that movie was referenced in the show. Part 2 was actually a huge box office hit and made more money than the 1st movie.
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As much as I love KK2, I still have a problem with rewriting Miyagi's history a bit with Yukie still pining after him after he had a wife and child. Unless they got married rather quickly before they both die in childbirth, it made no sense for Yukie to continue waiting if Sato was there.
And did they forget that Daniel was supposed to be the first non-family member to be taught Miyagi-Do? But now Sato too?
But yeah, still an great sequel. And Kumiko was a better match for Daniel than Ali.
The Karate Kid was like the kid-friendly version Rocky, which itself was a drama.
Then The Karate Kid Pt II turned the story into an over-the-top actioner, much like Rocky IV did the Rocky series.
The only thing I liked was how intense Mike Barnes was as a villain. But everything else about that movie was awful.
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