The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
03-28-19, 10:54 AM
#51
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
Ms. Melasnus pointed out to me this morning this show is getting more and more SOAPISH.
And the best of the Star Treks' episodes had a high degree of Adventure to 'em....something in short supply in The Orville.
I think she makes a good point...
And the best of the Star Treks' episodes had a high degree of Adventure to 'em....something in short supply in The Orville.
I think she makes a good point...
03-28-19, 12:54 PM
#52
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
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03-28-19, 04:30 PM
#54
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
They released Leighton Meester's complete song performance as a video:
The song is titled "That's All I've Got To Say" and was the theme to "The Last Unicorn" (and is also known for being performed by Art Garfunkel)
The song is titled "That's All I've Got To Say" and was the theme to "The Last Unicorn" (and is also known for being performed by Art Garfunkel)
03-28-19, 04:32 PM
#55
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
03-29-19, 11:58 PM
#56
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
A couple problems I'm starting to have with The Orville:
1. I'm glad they abandoned the total comedy aspect of the first few episodes - they just weren't funny to me, very strained. However, as a science fiction show, few of the ideas are very original - and, even if borrowed, they could go beyond Next Gen as a source.
2. Television Sci-fi has come a long way since the heydey of Next Gen: Babylon 5, DS9, Farscape, Firefly, and others were vastly superior to most of what TNG had to offer. While Next Gen wasn't really a bad show, I don't really want to go back there, and it is much harder to watch it with any seriousness now. Perhaps Discovery isn't it either as a lot of people didn't like the changes they made or the oppressive atmosphere of the show, but that shouldn't mean an ST clone has to go back to the same plots over and over again
3. This season has gone to the well on 'family' plots many more times than not it feels like - and that was always the WORST part of TNG, not the best....I can't believe Seth McFarlane wants to emulate that part of TNG this badly. Someone mentioned the Geordi episode, which is true, but I also kept thinking of the Minuet holodesk episode.
1. I'm glad they abandoned the total comedy aspect of the first few episodes - they just weren't funny to me, very strained. However, as a science fiction show, few of the ideas are very original - and, even if borrowed, they could go beyond Next Gen as a source.
2. Television Sci-fi has come a long way since the heydey of Next Gen: Babylon 5, DS9, Farscape, Firefly, and others were vastly superior to most of what TNG had to offer. While Next Gen wasn't really a bad show, I don't really want to go back there, and it is much harder to watch it with any seriousness now. Perhaps Discovery isn't it either as a lot of people didn't like the changes they made or the oppressive atmosphere of the show, but that shouldn't mean an ST clone has to go back to the same plots over and over again
3. This season has gone to the well on 'family' plots many more times than not it feels like - and that was always the WORST part of TNG, not the best....I can't believe Seth McFarlane wants to emulate that part of TNG this badly. Someone mentioned the Geordi episode, which is true, but I also kept thinking of the Minuet holodesk episode.
I'm the random internet guy that's going to tell you you're wrong
Yeah there have been a lot of Sci-fi which has been instrumental in changing the format of shows from an episodic to a serialized format which has resulted in a more dramatic flashier style. But I still contend that the absolute best of Star Trek are the episodes that need no prior knowledge of ships, species or even characters to enjoy. Episodes like The City of the Edge of Forever, Measure of a Man, The Inner Light, and The Visitor. Don't depend on serialized story telling or splashy special effect. They depend on thoughtful writing and execution of an interesting idea that transcends the confines of the Sci-fi world in which it inhabits. Personally I absolutely love the more "quiet" episodes. The ones that take the time to develop the characters and let you know a little more insight into who they are. As much as I love The Best of Both Worlds and the spectacle and suspense that came with that epic two parter it was the episode directly after that Family that I think is really unique to Star Trek and TNG specifically. To spend a whole episode to show how the experience really effected Picard and to provide a glimpse into Worf's childhood and parents are the kind of episodes that really elevates TNG as my favorite TV show.
In a similar vein, but to a lesser degree, I appreciate that Orville has some quiet episodes as well that focus on the characters, or a sci-fi premise and takes the time to develop that. I know I'm probably in the minority but I really like those type of episodes. It really makes you believe that the world they create is one that is that much more believable.
03-30-19, 12:06 AM
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
Brilliant episode. I knew that guy looked familiar but didn’t realize he was Tuvok.
Bortus brings the funny. Definitely my favorite character.
as for the main story, that bordered on some Black Mirror shit, and actually made me tear up a bit. Never thought The Orville would do that to me.
Bortus brings the funny. Definitely my favorite character.
as for the main story, that bordered on some Black Mirror shit, and actually made me tear up a bit. Never thought The Orville would do that to me.
I liked the episode a lot. Yeah, I noticed the obvious similarities to some Star Trek holodeck episodes but I thought the twist with the ex-boyfriend gave this episode something of its own to work with. And that Gordon deleting the old boyfriend from the program had the unintended effect of ruining Laura's personality was a nice depiction of how a large part of a person's personality is an accumulation of life experiences, and subtracting certain major experiences would change the person's personality.
Even though I don't want this show to get into the bad habit of using the environmental simulator (holodeck) as a plot crutch as the Star Trek series tended to do (particularly TNG), i think this episode handled it right.
Even though I don't want this show to get into the bad habit of using the environmental simulator (holodeck) as a plot crutch as the Star Trek series tended to do (particularly TNG), i think this episode handled it right.
I thought it was interesting having his real life wife give him advice on his on screen holographic girl friend. I don't know what Scott Grimes is like in real life but if he's anything like he was in this episode I can kind of see how he played the nice guy angle to land Palicki.
04-11-19, 12:38 AM
#58
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Re: The Orville (S2E11) -- "Lasting Impressions" -- 3/21/19
I liked the episode a lot. Yeah, I noticed the obvious similarities to some Star Trek holodeck episodes but I thought the twist with the ex-boyfriend gave this episode something of its own to work with. And that Gordon deleting the old boyfriend from the program had the unintended effect of ruining Laura's personality was a nice depiction of how a large part of a person's personality is an accumulation of life experiences, and subtracting certain major experiences would change the person's personality.
Even though I don't want this show to get into the bad habit of using the environmental simulator (holodeck) as a plot crutch as the Star Trek series tended to do (particularly TNG), i think this episode handled it right.
Even though I don't want this show to get into the bad habit of using the environmental simulator (holodeck) as a plot crutch as the Star Trek series tended to do (particularly TNG), i think this episode handled it right.
I don't get to watch much TV anymore, but the two shows I'm really digging right now are The Orville and The Rookie. Neither one of them is a big ratings hit, so I hope both of them survive for at least another season. (Well, I also love Better Call Saul, but at 10 or so episodes every 18 months that's not a whole lot to follow, unfortunately...)
