Maggie died on the way back to her home planet.

Decent episode.

That's one helluva time jump though.

Agreed that a 7 or 8 year old Judith being able to handle the recoil, nevermind being a marksmen is silly.

Rick's lost way too much blood to get as far as he has - nevermind still be alive.

If I'm on a horse I'm sure I'd be able to get enough distance between me and the walkers just by riding hard for 5 minutes in a direction they're not currently walking (ie. not on a path). They're slow and would've lost Rick and just keep walking in the direction they last saw him.

The group at the end... the walkers are spread out a healthy distance - why allow them to enclose all around you making it even harder to get by? So many large openings between them - just run past these slow-as-fuck walkers.

Nice to see the cameos. I get why Shane and Herschel would be in Rick's imagination, but why would Sasha? She didn't play that big a role in Rick's life. No other actor was available?
Wonder how long before Scott Wilson died when he filmed his scene.

They tried to get Glenn but his schedule was conflicting. Negan was also involved in that scene but that was cut out.

Was there ever any in cannon explanation given for what happens when the walkers eat people or animals? Does it possibly slow the rate of decay of the walkers, or reverse the affects somewhat?

I imagine there would be some that had their stomachs torn out, so eating and flesh would just go down their throat and fall out and back onto the ground. But for the ones that can "eat", does it do them any good?

Rescued by the helicopter just as most people figured. So only the bridge element was a surprise. Along with the dynamite? And the horse that supposedly was spooked by the walker hoard, but then slowly trotted along ahead of them? And the miracle hole in the abdomen then didn't bleed out?

Would have been far better if Jadis had initially saved him and all that introspection took place while he was out cold on the helicopter. BTW, how do the others (including those they have on watch) not hear that helicopter land by the bridge?

That Maggie/Negan scene was terrible. But it will be interesting to see how they explain Maggie's not being in the time jump timeline.

Was the "what's you wound?" voice the same one on the radio to Jadis? Seemed similar.

Yeah, some of this probably came down to schedules. Glenn, Lori, Dale, and Andrea would have been people he probably would have seen before Sasha.

And if I was Chandler Riggs, I would have told them to go fuck themselves if they called me up to do a cameo.

It was kind of funny that of all three people he sees none are his wife or son, but one is someone whose name he probably wouldn't remember.

Why is he so bitter toward the show? Everyone gets killed off, but he took it so badly.

The helicopter didn't land near the bridge. It looks like Rick floated a couple miles or so down the river, and the helicopter came from the opposite side of the bridge and didn't fly over it. Although maybe the gang by the bridge should be able to hear it from there - but certainly the watchout would be able to spot it you would figure.

And what was the dynamite doing at the bridge? They were fixing the bridge and not blowing up anything to re-route the water or anything - which would've attracted walker where they really didn't want them anyway. Plus, why would they just leave the dynamite there for any possible enemies to use against them? Did they leave their weapons there as well?

Riggs was pissed because they had him signed for years and he uprooted his entire life to relocate to GA, then right after that they cut him from the show. He didn't do well with Gimple and I believe Gimple cut him out of the show for spite in my opinion.

I still want to know the difference between an "A" & a "B"

When the show first started, a lot of people thought Carol looked like Jamie Lee Curtis with her short gray hair. Now we have the new Halloween movie where Jamie Lee Curtis has long hair and Carol just so happens to have long hair...

I’m assuming its “alpha” and “beta,” though those particular terms are already taken, as we shall see later, so they might have just gone with the letters.

I’ve read some speculation that “A” subjects were non-compliant, and “B” subjects won’t offer resistance. Recall that Anne classified Rick and Negan as As previously, and upgraded Gabriel from a B to an A when he stood up to her. And she downgraded a gravely injured Rick to a B in the last episode.

Or it also might tie into the storyline currently running in the comic book, and a new group that has been discovered. It wouldn’t surprise me if Georgie the LP collector or the helicopter (or both) were tied to the new group in the comics.

It would have been much more interesting if Maggie had come across Garbage Lady and Rick before the helicopter arrived. Maggie could have fought and knocked out GL just the helicopter arrived, which would then take both of them, as Maggie has to be at least a B to these people (whatever the fuck that means). GL is left behind, as the man on the walkie didn't sound to interested in taking her anyhow. She wakes up in the field, confused and alone, and the herd gets her. Taa-daa.

[QUOTE=Coral;13438725]The helicopter didn't land near the bridge. It looks like Rick floated a couple miles or so down the river, and the helicopter came from the opposite side of the bridge and didn't fly over it. Although maybe the gang by the bridge should be able to hear it from there - but certainly the watchout would be able to spot it you would figure.[quote]

The point was that is was close enough even with the copter approaching from the other side. One issue the show often ignores (when convenient) is just how silent that world would be and how easy it would be to hear any kind of motorized vehicle approaching.

One plausible explanation would be that the workers working against them hid it within the supplies in an attempt at sabotage. But they didn't set that up in any way.

Its clear the posters in this thread have put more thought into the writing of the show than the writers. just sayin....

A lot of things didn't make sense with these scenes. Why was the river water flowing so fast? It looked like there was just a major storm and more water was getting in the river than it could handle. Not even Great Falls which is near there has water that flows that rapid.

Also, how much good would making the hoard of zombies fall into the river going to do? They can't drown. Many or most will be able to get out or wash up on shore somewhere down stream. They acted like making them fall into the river killed them like when you stab their brain.

If this was Maggie's final episode as well, they don't really need an explantion for her departure. When the next episode picks up it will be six years later. So much time has passed that people will have moved on from Rick's death, and if Maggie "died" or disappeared some short time to a few years after that, it won't be fresh on the minds of people in the community, so all they have to do is not mention her or what happened to her.

Someone else could be in control of Hilltop and no explanation would be needed. Her departure could be left to be very ambiguous. Health could even be back in the next episode, and have been back for a good portion of those six years and the writers wouldn't have to explan a thing unless they wanted to do a side episode that focused on him.

it really is amazing how they managed to fuck up the complete ratings and media darling this show once was. I think it's surpassed "Heroes" in that way.

with that said, I'm totally down with a trio of Rick Grimes Zombie Hunter movies.

They fired him because he played hardball with AMC. He was holding college over their heads to get a payday to stay. Given how notoriously cheap AMC likes to be cheap so they just fired him.

As for Andrea and Dale, those actors are Darabont's friends and hires so I doubt AMC would even bother with them. Jeff Demunn asked to be written out after Darbont was fired and Laurie Holden has been bitter about being written out in every interview I've read recently.

Exactly. I stopped watching this show a few seasons ago. From Zombie Survivalism to Days Of Our Zombie Lives.

However, I read about Rick's trilogy and I'm interested in it, but hope it's not the same whiny-ass dude he became later in the series.

If that really is the case, he should sue for those years. He'd probably get it in civil court outside of doing stuff that demanded his being cut from the series (drinking, always late for filming, etc.).

I thought so.

I'm guessing Negan is going to be the new camp Alpha. In one 5 minute scene they made him human and humble... allegedly. I can't see this show being carried by an 8 year old girl or Darryl for that matter. I do NOT want to see a dozen millenials making do week after week either. I'll give this show thru the season and see if I come back for S10. The only intriguing thing now is the evolution of the walkers.

I doubt the walkers are evolving. Don't know if you've read the comics but it there's a clear explanation of what they showed in the previews that it won't be as it appeared to be.

I wonder if Judith will play the role that Carl did in the comics of being the one that befriends and confides in Negal while he is in the jail cell. Assuming they still have him in the cell after the time jump.

I think they've thrown the comic out as source material, so all bets are off.