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Seems like at some point they will be able to get AI to do most of the work. I'm not talking about shitty HD upscaling. I mean set an AI loose on the original film footage and have it select out the right cuts to edit into episodes again. That'll just leave the new HD-rendered CGI. That still won't be cheap, but it might put the whole project on a low enough budget that it can be justified financially.

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...and Very Short Trek number two:


0-2.

Yeah, these are terrible.

I guess we know what the SNL writers are doing during the strikes to buy their drugs now.

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I'm liking the animation. It's really spot on to the TAS. I like that they've gotten the original actors back in their roles and cool seeing the SNW Enterprise in that style. It's nice to see Hemmer again. Fun to see the STD crew in TAS style. And I appreciate them taking a What...if? approach to Start Trek. Something definitely noncanon that can explore characters and situations without the burden of canon.

All that being said....WTF ARE THEY THINKING???!!! Ok the first one I didn't hate too much. It was just a bit of fun and really short so sure why not have some juvenile humor. Now this next one is basically the same premise just way way worse. It's just not even funny. Not even a little bit. And even thought it's only 4 minutes long it just feels like it goes on forever because it's just so awkward. I mean I get that they're trying to be funny with it and trying something new but honestly it just comes off as being disrespectful. It's like their saying TAS was just such a cringy cheesy Star Trek show, and yeah sure it was to some degree but that's not all it was.

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Hologram short Trek received some chuckles, and I appreciate the breadth of the cast they got. However, the ending is just dumb. How does somebody think that’s funny? Completely takes you out of it.

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Should have called it "Neelix is Awful."

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Couldn't agree more. I love everything Trek, but this crap is unwatchable. I saw the first two and am not bothering with the rest. If others like it, great, enjoy. Just not for me.

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Yeah I watched the second thinking it might be better but these very short treks are horrible. Animation and casting are fine but the juvenile scripts -screwy-

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It's as if the producers brought on top-quality production and casting, then asked their 13-year-old kids to write the script.

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Star Trek: Legacy looking less and less likely to happen....

From Terry MatalasThen was asked if they could do a movie instead of a series with Legacy cast:I have to imagine the possible sale of Paramount is probably preventing a lot of things from happening.

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Yes, the Paramount sale may be the issue. It would make more sense to give viewers what they want rather than the projects they're working on right now. At least they changed the Section 31 project from a series to a streaming movie. Who wants to watch Michelle Yeoh constantly making scowling face every time she is getting ready to deliver a line of dialog. I don't thinki many people want a Starfleet Academy series set in the Discovery time period with Tilly in the lead.

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That sucks. Just watched the final 2 Picards again last night. I really want ST: Legacy... even if it's just a movie.

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I'd rather they scuttle that Starfleet Academy series, or at least put it on the back burner, and do Legacy instead.

I always sort of wanted a series set at Starfleet Academy, but I do not want to see more the 32nd century after Discovery ends. I'd much rather a Starfleet Academy series be set in the Picard/Legacy era.

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The TNG/Picard era is where a Starfleet Academy series should take place. That is usually what is referred to as the "present day" in the Star Trek franchise.

Another interesting option would have been to have it set in the 2320's when a young Picard would be at Starfleet Academy. The TOS timeline pretty much moved along at the same pace as the real world. In that even, we would be up to the year 2324 in the TOS era "if" it was still continuing". During this time, an elder Sulu (or Chekov) could be an instructor at Starfleet Academy allowing for a crossover between both generations. Takai is getting a little old now and Koenig is probably too frail, but a few years ago, something like that could have worked. It also would have allowed us to see younger versions of Admirals that were Picard's age that had guest starred on TNG in an episode or two.

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It's amusing that for years people said Trek needed to move forward instead of doing prequels like Enterprise and Discovery, but then we got SNW and Lower Decks (which is set before Picard) and everybody loves those, but then Discovery goes to the future and nobody likes it.

I guess the community needs to be better at what we're asking for. Prequels can be fine or even actually amazing if the writing is good.

Going way into the future isn't the answer either if nobody likes the characters or what they're doing there (the whole storyline of The Burn feels like a rejected Matt Smith era Doctor Who two parter that would mainly be remembered for 11 yelling a speech at the Big Bad).

(and let me be clear I like the concept of the character of Michael Burnham. Even the part where she's a long lost sibling of Spock. No, wait, let me rephrase that: *especially* because she's a long lost sibling of Spock, that's fucking hilarious. It's the way the character is done that I'm not a fan of).

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I'm not a fan of cartoons as being in-continuity, but Lower Decks is closer to "moving forward" than the prequels. If Picard hadn't been made, Lower Decks would have been the current "present day" for the Trek franchise. It's still fairly close to the Picard era that I wouldn't consider it a prequel like those shows set around or before the TOS era. Strange New Worlds is ok, but I feel they are fairly limited in story telling as we already know what the end game is for many of the characters. Shows set in the Picard era would be the best option in my opinion as nothing is set in stone in that time frame. I pretty much ignore the Discovery future time period. I figure eventually they will retcon it as an alternate future (at least hopefully they will).

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I’m really glad Lower Decks is in continuity because I think it will be really interesting to see how they deal with that supernova and all the fallout, including the loss of Spock.

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That would probably make an interesting episode; to show the Cerritos taking part in the Romulan evacuation and refugee crisis. Might be a little too dark and heavy for Lower Decks, though.

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Starfleet Academy is scheduled to film this summer. 10 episodes will be produced. Possibly a 2026 launch. It’s a massive undertaking with a long filming schedule, sets still being built and extensive special effects.

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Sounds really lame, particularly if it's a spin-off of DISC.

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They're going to make this Dawson's Creek in Space, like they wanted to do with Enterprise back in the day.


See, this is going to be controversial but I think fandoms like this might just need a tiny little smidge of gate-keeping. Star Trek has done well for itself for over 50 years now and whenever they try to expand the audience it ends up doing something that messes up the franchise (at least the Kelvin trilogy used the alternate timeline gimmick to keep their shenanigans to themselves, and I can still enjoy the three films), but Discovery really and truly felt like everybody involved with making that show was embarrassed to be a Trekkie so they did the bare minimum to keep to canon* but then used the aesthetics of other sci fi franchises of the last 20 years for everything else (nuBSG, Lost in Space movie, Stargate Continuum, etc).


I don't want them attracting new people to the franchise like this. I just want them to make really good space opera stories that more or less adhere to the canon (while still expanding and not changing what we know from before) and let us get to know the bridge crew! How many people were affected by what happened to Hemmer vs how many people can even name the two young women that sit at the front of the bridge on the Disco?

I know I sound like a grumpy old man (and I kinda am) but I also understand how things work on a starship (to borrow a phrase) and Disco just wasn't it.


* of all the things Disco did wrong, making Michael be yet another secret family member of Spock was absolutely hilarious and a perfect bit of world building. If I could go back in time to when they were putting together the show to let them know they should stick closer to what we know of the TOS era, this is one thing I would tell them to absolutely leave in place.

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Who’s asking for this?! Guarantee some exec figure it’s a way to get the TikTok demo.

Now, if this were a long game and you actually saw how these characters evolve over time and progress in their careers that could be interesting. Think The Crown. First two years covering all of academy, next two years the next decade of first assignments and promotions, etc. until you get to command. Some will wash out, others will die, some keep the steady Lt. gig, Captain, etc.

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A Starfleet series finally after all these years? :thumbsup:
Attracting new fans? :thumbsup:
While also catering to lifelong fans? :thumbsup:
Staring Tilly???? :thmbsdwn:
Spinoff from STD??? :thmbsdwn::thmbsdwn:
Set in the 32nd century??? :thmbsdwn::thmbsdwn::thmbsdwn:

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The idea has been around since the 90s when Paramount realized the TOS crew weren't going to be around forever. The Academy movies they were considering back then would be recasts of the TOS crew, closer to what we saw in the 2009 film, but without the emergency promotions and such.


But to do as a Disco spinoff just feels...like a major missed opportunity.

The only cool thing I could see is if they take advantage of that rebuilt Enterprise D bridge set that they saved and whatever TOS Enterprise bridge set they probably still have hanging around, and use those as holodeck settings for lessons, maybe give us a different perspective on classic episodes.

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I don't mind a Starfleet show with a younger cast, if done right, but if the theory about a Tilly show turns out to be true, the show is DOA for me. Not only do I hope they bury everything tying to Discovery when the show ends, I really loath Tilly with all my heart. The character is just terrible.

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Holly Hunter has been cast as the lead of the Starfleet Academy series.