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Old 05-06-18 | 05:48 AM
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Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18







Debut date: SUNDAY, MAY 6 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)

There is beauty in who we are. Shouldn't we, too, try to survive?

Written by Roberto Patino & Ron Fitzgerald; directed by Richard J. Lewis.

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9:00PM hour is in my sights.
Old 05-06-18 | 08:27 PM
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Man I love how this series disguises popular rock songs. "Big Balls" on a sitar is brilliant.
Old 05-06-18 | 10:19 PM
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

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Man I love how this series disguises popular rock songs. "Big Balls" on a sitar is brilliant.
Wasn’t that 7 Nation Army? Or were they both used?
Old 05-06-18 | 11:50 PM
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Wasn’t that 7 Nation Army? Or were they both used?
Pretty sure it was 7 Nation Army.
Old 05-07-18 | 12:40 AM
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I thought it was cool that they shot the Maharajah palace stuff at The Castle Green in Pasadena CA, where some 20 years ago Mrs. Decker and I (and a few months later, Aimee Mann and Michael Penn) got married. That round room where the two Guests flirt is where our guests had hors d'ouvres. I've seen it used previously in George of the Jungle.
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

Kind of a bland episode for me, but I guess not every episode can carry some big twist or reveal. I dug whatever that Indian world was, and I guess the glimpse of Shogun world at the end too.

Maeve seemed to be able to control every other host in the world, but I guess not those natives?

Also, whatever this security team is that's trying to clean things up... they're really, really bad. I don't understand walking on foot marching in to a heavily fortified and clearly well defended building
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Best episode so far

The amount of host combatants doesn't seem proportionate to the size of the park. You wouldn't need that many soldiers to deliver the narrative

The security forces are a joke, walking straight ahead in the open with small arms with no cover. They would have access to bigger longer range guns and also some helicopters. There would definitely be helicopters available to travel around the park
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

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Best episode so far

The amount of host combatants doesn't seem proportionate to the size of the park. You wouldn't need that many soldiers to deliver the narrative

The security forces are a joke, walking straight ahead in the open with small arms with no cover. They would have access to bigger longer range guns and also some helicopters. There would definitely be helicopters available to travel around the park
correct, there was a helicopter shown in one of the first two episodes. Kind of a strange way to attack without even a riot shield or something. Still a good episode though!
Old 05-07-18 | 09:37 AM
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It is the future as well, they don't have a drone that is a weapons platform with at least a minigun.
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

Originally Posted by Original Desmond
Best episode so far

The amount of host combatants doesn't seem proportionate to the size of the park. You wouldn't need that many soldiers to deliver the narrative

The security forces are a joke, walking straight ahead in the open with small arms with no cover. They would have access to bigger longer range guns and also some helicopters. There would definitely be helicopters available to travel around the park
Unless the security force are hosts as well. Why would you send actual humans to control a threat like that if you could just send programmed hosts.
Old 05-07-18 | 10:02 AM
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

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Unless the security force are hosts as well. Why would you send actual humans to control a threat like that if you could just send programmed hosts.
Because if you can't control the Hosts in the park, why would you be certain that you could control a Security force made up of well-armed Hosts?
Old 05-07-18 | 11:40 AM
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I agree that the attack on the fort was some B-movie-grade level of action cheesiness.
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

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Because if you can't control the Hosts in the park, why would you be certain that you could control a Security force made up of well-armed Hosts?
Who says the rebelling hosts aren't following their current programs? We are led to believe they are all self-aware. Yet there's evidence that even though they are acting of their own free will that they are still following a program.
(Wyatt personality, Maeve being shown her words are scripted, etc)
Add to that that the security force (if hosts) would have their own narrative and were not involved with humans at the park. Like the drones in episode 1.
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Pretty sure it was 7 Nation Army.
http://www.wjbdradio.com/music-news/...en-nation-army
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I hope the show doesn't head towards"hosts escape into the real world", then we have another blade runner type clone/iteration
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Originally Posted by funkyryno
I agree that the attack on the fort was some B-movie-grade level of action cheesiness.
I was wondering why they didn't call in some jets to nape the fort.
Old 05-07-18 | 08:34 PM
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That episode was just plain bad in my book. Terminator Dolores is gonna get very boring very fast. Actually, I'm already bored of her. Get on with her obvious killing of Teddy or Teddy turning on her being the real evil of the season and be done with it. The whole park securty team attack on the fort was an even bigger joke. At this point the only thing I'm hoping is that Maeve and writer guy get out.
Old 05-07-18 | 11:53 PM
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Umm...yeah, I'm just going to say it: The entire Dolores plot thread is boring me to tears. I have completely lost interest in anything going on during her scenes. Every time they cut back to her I groan a little. The rest of the show is still pretty interesting.

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That episode was just plain bad in my book. Terminator Dolores is gonna get very boring very fast. Actually, I'm already bored of her. Get on with her obvious killing of Teddy or Teddy turning on her being the real evil of the season and be done with it. The whole park securty team attack on the fort was an even bigger joke. At this point the only thing I'm hoping is that Maeve and writer guy get out.
Didn't read your take before posting mine. Looks like I'm not alone.
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Re: Westworld (S2E03) -- "Virtù e Fortuna" -- 5/6/18

I really hate to say this, but I'm not totally feeling this season. Hopefully it picks up soon.

Also, maybe I'm alone in this, but I'm not at all interested in other parks. Westworld felt special, but now we're to believe there are multiple parks bordering it? Was Ford only involved with Westworld?

And like I said last week, I'm really missing the atmosphere of a functional park.
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And like I said last week, I'm really missing the atmosphere of a functional park.
Same here. I liked the mystery of the park and the maze the man in black was trying to find. They seem to be going in another direction with the show, which I'm not a fan of.
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I did like the glimpse of the other park, but the battle in this episode was pretty weak. Still enjoy this show quite a bit though.
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Originally Posted by JTH182
I really hate to say this, but I'm not totally feeling this season. Hopefully it picks up soon.

Also, maybe I'm alone in this, but I'm not at all interested in other parks. Westworld felt special, but now we're to believe there are multiple parks bordering it? Was Ford only involved with Westworld?

And like I said last week, I'm really missing the atmosphere of a functional park.
The original movie had three parks. Westworld, Roman World and Samurai World,

In the sequel West World was replaced with Future World. Most of the bad press from the first "incident" centered around West World so it was bad PR to reopen it.
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Originally Posted by Noonan
Same here. I liked the mystery of the park and the maze the man in black was trying to find. They seem to be going in another direction with the show, which I'm not a fan of.
The season preview showed the maze design on a wall. When Arnold was showing Delores the house he was constructing, there were stacks of bricks that look like they would form a maze design when put together. Has me wondering if the maze has anything to do with this house.
Old 05-08-18 | 09:36 AM
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And like I said last week, I'm really missing the atmosphere of a functional park.
I'm missing the copious, salacious, gratuitous nudity.

There, I've said it.


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