DJariya

Episode 17 of 23

Original Desmond

Too much drama for my liking

not feeling this season at all

dex14

For anyone in the NY area that didn't have this air due to the baseball, it is supposed to air on Saturday now.

Flatlander

Yeah, I use to watch this live but just cant deal with the drama and bickering. If all this is setting up a "reboot" for next season they should have just condensed all this team fighting into the last few episodes. I see no need to do this during the whole season.

Xiroteus

Not the right type of drama. Infighting and being angry at each other over every little thing has gotten old.

DJariya

This episode should have been titled: "The Oliver and Diggle pissing match"

Diggle was getting bent out of shape for nothing. You do have to admit, Amell and Ramsay were great in that scene even though it was a stupid argument & very contrived. They had really great intensity between them.

Team Arrow is losing bodies left and right now.

SmithsGuy

Oliver would probably be better off not being mayor and working from the shadows ... Pesky writing that it was a big thing to find the good cop hideout when Oliver and Diggle probably haven't moved in years.

hdnmickey

Caught up on the last 4 episodes recently. This group breakup crap and Diaz as the supposedly powerful villain is easily taking Arrow down to Supergirl level . Short of a recovery before their season finales I think we'll only be seeing any characters from from Arrow and Supergirl next season when they do cross-overs.

cleaver

I should have quit this show this season because last season sucked so bad but I like Diaz from Fringe and Band of Brothers. I used to watch it live too now I’ve got it on while I play with my kid. And Diggle is right, Oliver didn’t know his DA had a kid with stage 4 cancer, he’s a bad mayor and Arrow.

And Felicity used to be this strong character. Now she exclusively runs errands or reassures her man. The main female villain is being manipulated by her father and boyfriend. I don’t know if I’ve ever watched a show with lazier writing.

PhantomStranger

I thought the Diggle-Ollie confrontation was long overdue myself. If anything, I have no idea where the fake Laurel arc is headed.

Original Desmond

We are at the point where you don't care about any character including Felicity who a few seasons ago, everyone adored.

windom

Cast addition spoiler for next season (spoilered just in case):

robin2099

I was meh in this episode. The Oliver and Diggle throw down was good but it came from such a stupid reason(Diggle wanting to be the Green Arrow) that it kind of cheapened the fight a bit. Really the whole splitting Team Arrow thing would work better if it was Diggle on one side and Ollie on the other.

Honestly if next season they get rid of everyone but Felicity, Oliver and Diggle I would be ok with that.

hdnmickey

I fully expect we'll only have Oliver, Diggle, Roy, and Felicity at the start of next season. And hopefully the folks they add are far better than this last crop of mistakes.

DJariya

I liked Dinah until she started becoming a really stubborn hot head.

But they could lose Rene and Curtis and I wouldn’t shed a tear.

PhantomStranger

That is the most inexplicable cast addition. I like the character and don't get it.

Of the "new" cast members on Arrow, I would keep Dinah in some form and let the others walk. But they've taken her character down a path that would make it hard putting her back on the team.

robin2099

I agree 100% on this. I really liked Dinah but they have ruined her character pretty bad this season. I thought Vigilante could be a fun addition but they killed him off.

Koby

Colton Haynes seemed to have put on some weight. I've liked Roy since they introduced him and enjoyed Haynes time on Teen Wolf prior. I don't mind him coming back. His character is much better than Dinah and New TA. But him returning seems like either Thea is coming back too or something happens to her, because Roy would otherwise have stayed by her side.

DJariya

Willa isn’t coming back anytime soon. Her contract expired.

We won’t know why he’s coming back until next season. But, in theory Thea could still be working with Nyssa to complete that mission.

starseed1981

Hopefully next season the writers will have the word "city" or variations of "save this city / fight for the city" stricken from the scripts. I feel like they are saying it at least 4 dozen times per episode this year.

And I'm all on board with purging the entire cast sans Felicity, Diggle & Dinah.