13 Reasons Why (Netflix) -- Series Thread
#26
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I just finish watching this and being a father of 4... it was really good. I talk to my kids all the time and my 16 year old daughter last year told me she had no friends and no one liked her. She is a talented dancer and kids were probably jealous. She has travel twice to China for dance and this year according to her has been great.
I loved that they didnt sugar coat the suicide and they probably should've shown
. Can't wait to see where they go from here.
I loved that they didnt sugar coat the suicide and they probably should've shown
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#27
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I know this was based on a book, but this was so reminiscent of Veronica Mars season 1, especially with the piecing everything together via flashback and the general themes. Now I'm afraid, like VM, the first season is well structured but the second season won't be as good. The majority of the book is covered in the first season, right?
I like that even the other characters were frustrated at Clay for taking his time, but I thought the explanation that he was really scared and working through grief worked fine. Plus it allowed them to really flesh out the characters in the present day. It was fairly predictable but they laid the groundwork really well for everything that was going to happen.
My major problem was with Hannah's entire plan... it's even pointed out that it would never make it past a certain point. Tonys realization at the end and pointing out minor inconsistencies where we see that Hannah was a somewhat unreliable narrator help, though.
I like that even the other characters were frustrated at Clay for taking his time, but I thought the explanation that he was really scared and working through grief worked fine. Plus it allowed them to really flesh out the characters in the present day. It was fairly predictable but they laid the groundwork really well for everything that was going to happen.
My major problem was with Hannah's entire plan... it's even pointed out that it would never make it past a certain point. Tonys realization at the end and pointing out minor inconsistencies where we see that Hannah was a somewhat unreliable narrator help, though.
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#28
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http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/0...-suicides.html
This show is being blamed for the suicides of two teen girls in California. It's been all over the news the last couple of days.
This show is being blamed for the suicides of two teen girls in California. It's been all over the news the last couple of days.
#29
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It's one thing if they mimicked Hannah's tapes because they thought it was cool. But I just don't see how this show, of all shows, glamorizes suicide. In fact, I have a hard time believing the parents watched this with their kids, because if they did I would think at least some discussion that would be helpful would come out of it.
I mean does anyone watch that last episode and think hey, that's what I want to do? If anything you see how heartbreaking it is because we see a vision of her possible future which was right there for the taking.
You could argue that maybe this show taught them how to commit suicide, but again I don't see how it glamorizes anything. Now if there's a sudden rise in sophomores and juniors getting dozens of tattoos, that I can blame on this show.
I mean does anyone watch that last episode and think hey, that's what I want to do? If anything you see how heartbreaking it is because we see a vision of her possible future which was right there for the taking.
You could argue that maybe this show taught them how to commit suicide, but again I don't see how it glamorizes anything. Now if there's a sudden rise in sophomores and juniors getting dozens of tattoos, that I can blame on this show.
#30
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Just finished watching this and thought it was really good. Dark and tragic, for sure, but well done and I don't feel that it glamorizes suicide. Hopefully it may make some people more aware of signs to watch for, and it may make some people stop and think about how they treat others.
There is a 30 minute special (Beyond the Reasons) that came on after the end of the last episode showing some of the cast and also some mental health professionals discussing the issues raised in the show--suicide, rape, bullying, etc.
Not sure what to think about a season 2. The school shooter is the obvious setup, but that character is going to be a lot harder to sympathize with than Hannah, so I don't see them using him as a central, lead character. Will they drop the narrative structure from season 1 and just portray everything in the present? There are loose ends to tie up regarding the lawsuit and the consequences for characters like Bryce and the counselor.
There is a 30 minute special (Beyond the Reasons) that came on after the end of the last episode showing some of the cast and also some mental health professionals discussing the issues raised in the show--suicide, rape, bullying, etc.
Not sure what to think about a season 2. The school shooter is the obvious setup, but that character is going to be a lot harder to sympathize with than Hannah, so I don't see them using him as a central, lead character. Will they drop the narrative structure from season 1 and just portray everything in the present? There are loose ends to tie up regarding the lawsuit and the consequences for characters like Bryce and the counselor.
#31
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Season 2 - May 18th, 2018
Season 2 - May 18th, 2018
#32
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#33
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Season 2 is up on Netflix.
#34
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Watching this, this weekend.
#36
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Overall, I think Season 2 was still pretty strong, especially without the novelty of the tapes. It is still VERY dark.
The final episode was pretty heavy-handed though. Adding in the #metoo stuff, and even having Anthony Rapp playing a priest.
The ending of last scene did kind of suck. The scene overall was OK, but the way the season ends is pretty ridiculous.
The final episode was pretty heavy-handed though. Adding in the #metoo stuff, and even having Anthony Rapp playing a priest.
The ending of last scene did kind of suck. The scene overall was OK, but the way the season ends is pretty ridiculous.
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#37
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Halfway through S2 and I’m enjoying it. I don’t understand all the reviewers who hated it, but maybe they are not the demographic.
#38
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#39
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Overall, I think Season 2 was still pretty strong, especially without the novelty of the tapes. It is still VERY dark.
The final episode was pretty heavy-handed though. Adding in the #metoo stuff, and even having Anthony Rapp playing a priest.
The ending of last scene did kind of suck. The scene overall was OK, but the way the season ends is pretty ridiculous.
The final episode was pretty heavy-handed though. Adding in the #metoo stuff, and even having Anthony Rapp playing a priest.
The ending of last scene did kind of suck. The scene overall was OK, but the way the season ends is pretty ridiculous.
I enjoyed the season overall.
#40
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I'll expand my thoughts a bit. I liked how the season gave us a deeper look into everyone's lives. The court setting was a great way to give us more information that we didn't see last season. Overall the show was just as compelling as it was last year. And now, the finale...
I'm not saying I won't watch the next season but if I don't it's because of the finale.
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#41
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I'll expand my thoughts a bit. I liked how the season gave us a deeper look into everyone's lives. The court setting was a great way to give us more information that we didn't see last season. Overall the show was just as compelling as it was last year. And now, the finale...
I'm not saying I won't watch the next season but if I don't it's because of the finale.
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13 Reasons Why showrunner on season 2's assault and school shooting story lines
http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/22/13-reaso..._medium=social
#42
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Just finished Season 2 last night. Hoo boy this show is heavy. Once again we get a bunch of angsty teens whose problems could be resolved a lot faster if they simply talked to their parents or other authority figures, but I guess we wouldn't have a show if that happened. I thought the resolution to the Hannah storyline was well done.
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#43
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S1 was compelling enough to stick with it... 25 minutes into S2E1 my wife and I looked at each other and agreed we just didn't care about any of these mopey shits and gave up on the show.
#44
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That said, I really enjoyed S2 up until the last episode when things took a hard left turn. While there were so many good things about it (the call back to Hannah and Clay dancing at the Spring Fling to "The Night We Met" was particularly touching, well as Clay's eulogy, and the "reasons why not"), the Trevor story line was shocking and upsetting. If you haven't watched BEYOND THE REASONS for S2, you really should give it a watch. The writers share some very shocking statistics about several topics they covered (including what happen to Trevor!). It actually helped me see the finale in a little different light.
#45
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Please don't lecture me on the complexities of being a teenager and then somehow equating my distaste for a generally panned second season of a show which exists primarily only as a cash grab to some pretentious and inaccurate commentary on my supposed lack of empathy for an entire generation of kids.
#46
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Well that's really too bad and also a little sad. To oversimplify the complicated characters (who are rather accurate depictions of real high school teens) as "mopey shits" speaks volumes about the issues teens face in life every day. If it's not for you, it's unfortunate. However, you missed out on a compelling story full of heartbreak, anguish, emotion, friendship, love and togetherness. Yes... kids go through all of these things and their emotions can turn on a dime. That's puberty and growing up.
#47
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#48
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I will agree that kids now a days have it 100% tougher. But, half the shit people go through can be avoided. Does life suck, fuck yeah it does. But at the end of day really only give a shit about the things you can control and not the ones you can't. Just live ur life.... =)
#49
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I will agree that kids now a days have it 100% tougher. But, half the shit people go through can be avoided. Does life suck, fuck yeah it does. But at the end of day really only give a shit about the things you can control and not the ones you can't. Just live ur life.... =)
#50
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I enjoyed S1 even with the issues it had, but S2 was horrible.
This season is the pure definition of a continuation of a show that shouldn't have, but did simply for the cash-grab.
We get backstory of a bunch of stuff that we had no clue happened, yet we probably should've known.
The kids do things that make no sense - even for typical kids. And then they often did nothing at all and just accepted their situation helplessly when some of them at least would've done something.
The courtroom scene really didn't make much sense.
In the flashback scenes with Hannah, Clay didn't seem to be THAT much in love with her. Hell, he spent an entire summer with his grandparents and never reached out to Hannah even once. But after she dies, Clay suddenly (and shown more this season) has this undying love for her. It really felt like the writers decided to adjust his relationship with Hannah and made it more intense.
The ending was simply ridiculous.
I assumed there wouldn't be a S3, but that ending tells me otherwise.
The Hannah storyline should basically be over, so I'm out as I'm not interested anymore.
This season is the pure definition of a continuation of a show that shouldn't have, but did simply for the cash-grab.
We get backstory of a bunch of stuff that we had no clue happened, yet we probably should've known.
The kids do things that make no sense - even for typical kids. And then they often did nothing at all and just accepted their situation helplessly when some of them at least would've done something.
The courtroom scene really didn't make much sense.
In the flashback scenes with Hannah, Clay didn't seem to be THAT much in love with her. Hell, he spent an entire summer with his grandparents and never reached out to Hannah even once. But after she dies, Clay suddenly (and shown more this season) has this undying love for her. It really felt like the writers decided to adjust his relationship with Hannah and made it more intense.
The ending was simply ridiculous.
I assumed there wouldn't be a S3, but that ending tells me otherwise.
The Hannah storyline should basically be over, so I'm out as I'm not interested anymore.