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davidh777 06-14-16 02:09 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 12826557)
Yeah, the reminders of stuff from the past is pretty good, along with the map/locations of characters. The hosts' pop culture references aren't funny though.

I think they should just not try to be funny.

Aphex Twin 06-14-16 03:29 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Do you think Arya will get back to Winterfell in time for the battle of the bastards? Will her fighting in the dark skills be of great help?

rw2516 06-14-16 03:58 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 12826395)
Yes, I saw that and it doesn't support the arguments you had been making earlier in this thread, that Jaqen set up the whole thing, that the blindness was part of her training for a future showdown with the waif, etc. I haven't argued against what happened on screen, I've argued against your interpretation of it. I've also argued that Arya spending a 2 season arc in Braavos only to decide that she just wants to be Arya was a waste of time, and how lazy the writing was regarding Arya's wounds and the waif disregarding her lifelong assassin training to chase Arya in the middle of a crowded marketplace, etc.

I'm just trying to figure it out like everybody else. Whatever the reason for making Ayra blind, by making her train while blind, being knocked around, the end result was she learned to fight blind from it. Intended or not. I find it hard to believe nobody realized this would happen or notice that it did happen. Unless Ayra hid the fact from them by letting herself be knocked around while blind not letting on.

Why So Blu? 06-14-16 04:03 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 12826809)
I'm just trying to figure it out like everybody else. Whatever the reason for making Ayra blind, by making her train while blind, being knocked around, the end result was she learned to fight blind from it. Intended or not. I find it hard to believe nobody realized this would happen or notice that it did happen. Unless Ayra hid the fact from them by letting herself be knocked around while blind not letting on.

And she was also in an enclosed space. Hell, she was waiting for the waif.

Maz Kanata 06-14-16 06:07 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Still makes little fucking sense that she's walking around like a nose-in-the air highborn with bags of silver and no Needle. Stop making excuses for all of this, people. Arya's story was mishandled. The End.

Why So Blu? 06-14-16 06:10 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Maz Kanata (Post 12826905)
Still makes little fucking sense that she's walking around like a nose-in-the air highborn with bags of silver and no Needle. Stop making excuses for all of this, people. Arya's story was mishandled. The End.

That was part of her baiting Waif - it's as plain as fucking day!

Maz Kanata 06-14-16 06:29 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
And she still got stabbed like an imbecile. Enough already, the excuses for this nonsensical plotting are borderline idiotic now.

House 06-14-16 06:42 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Maz Kanata (Post 12826921)
And she still got stabbed like an imbecile. Enough already, the excuses for this nonsensical plotting are borderline idiotic now.

Wow you sound bitter.

Maz Kanata 06-14-16 06:59 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
I just can't stand blind 'fanboyism'. You aren't doing your favorite show/film/ book any favors when make excuses for obvious lapses.

mcnabb 06-14-16 08:34 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
I'm enjoying the Season but I do feel they have too many storylines going on. It's like anytime a scene gets real interesting, they cut to something else and don't back to it until next episode.

Dr. DVD 06-14-16 08:47 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Will season seven just be seven episodes, or will they take a Sopranos approach and make it two "mini-seasons" with seven each? Given that this is HBO's signature series, I see them milking it for all it's worth. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to build to a cliffhanger ending next year and then make a surprise announcement it will be wrapped up on a feature film.

fujishig 06-14-16 08:47 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by mcnabb (Post 12826982)
I'm enjoying the Season but I do feel they have too many storylines going on. It's like anytime a scene gets real interesting, they cut to something else and don't back to it until next episode.

Well, that's like the classic ploy to get you to tune in next time, isn't it?

I don't mind the pacing of this season at all, nothing really seems that drawn out and things are dealt with pretty quickly. Even stuff like Dany being captured, and then Dany making her way back to Mereen were dealt with pretty quickly, where I'm sure another show would have meandered a bit. And say what you will about Dorne, they moved that out of the way fairly quickly.

Josh-da-man 06-14-16 08:59 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 12826988)
Will season seven just be seven episodes, or will they take a Sopranos approach and make it two "mini-seasons" with seven each? Given that this is HBO's signature series, I see them milking it for all it's worth. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to build to a cliffhanger ending next year and then make a surprise announcement it will be wrapped up on a feature film.

From what I've heard, they're looking a thirteen episodes total; season seven part one will be seven episodes, and season seven part two will be six episodes.

So after the Bastardbowl and whatever happens in the season finale, it's thirteen episodes to wrap up all of the political intrigue and the white walker business.

Aphex Twin 06-14-16 09:10 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Don't you guys think there are prequel and sequel and spin-off possibilities like the Star Wars universe for GoT?

Bill Needle 06-14-16 09:16 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 12826999)
From what I've heard, they're looking a thirteen episodes total; season seven part one will be seven episodes, and season seven part two will be six episodes.

So after the Bastardbowl and whatever happens in the season finale, it's thirteen episodes to wrap up all of the political intrigue and the white walker business.

If they do that, hopefully it's a spring/fall 2017 split schedule. Spreading the final 13 episodes out over 100 weeks following the end of this season would be ridiculous.

MikahC 06-14-16 09:45 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Aphex Twin (Post 12827007)
Don't you guys think there are prequel and sequel and spin-off possibilities like the Star Wars universe for GoT?

Yes, we think both are possibilities. But the current show runners are likely done, which is why they want to bring the show to an end in the first place. So you might end up with new show runners, new actors, and new characters. A sequel wouldn't have a roadmap established by GRRM.

Point being, Even though it would be on HBO, there's no guarantee it'd be a rock solid show that we can all unabashedly love. There's no guarantee new writers would be able to have lightning strike twice. It feels to me that it's all coming to an end. I just hope for a good denouement.

LurkerDan 06-14-16 09:59 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Maz Kanata (Post 12826905)
Still makes little fucking sense that she's walking around like a nose-in-the air highborn with bags of silver and no Needle. Stop making excuses for all of this, people. Arya's story was mishandled. The End.

pretty much agree. None of that made any sense. It's like they had ideas about a bunch of cool stuff they wanted to do with Arya (connect again with Lady Crane, have her get stabbed, have a crazy parkour chase scene, win in the end, have a cool face to face with Jaqen, etc), and they just threw it all in, without regard to how it all fit.

chowderhead 06-15-16 12:30 AM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by MikahC (Post 12827031)
Yes, we think both are possibilities. But the current show runners are likely done, which is why they want to bring the show to an end in the first place. So you might end up with new show runners, new actors, and new characters. A sequel wouldn't have a roadmap established by GRRM.

Point being, Even though it would be on HBO, there's no guarantee it'd be a rock solid show that we can all unabashedly love. There's no guarantee new writers would be able to have lightning strike twice. It feels to me that it's all coming to an end. I just hope for a good denouement.

A series based on Dunk and Egg would be great. Egg is probably one of my favorite characters in this GoT world. I also want to see this Game of Throne world through the lens of the gentry and lower houses.

PhantomStranger 06-15-16 01:29 AM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by mcnabb (Post 12826982)
I'm enjoying the Season but I do feel they have too many storylines going on. It's like anytime a scene gets real interesting, they cut to something else and don't back to it until next episode.

That has been a terrible trend this season. I haven't been a huge fan of their narrative editing this season.

This is the first season of GOT that I am not binge viewing and it does play slightly differently week to week.

rw2516 06-15-16 07:27 AM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Aphex Twin (Post 12826773)
Do you think Arya will get back to Winterfell in time for the battle of the bastards? Will her fighting in the dark skills be of great help?

With the time left for the show I think her storyline will be confined to confronting The Hound and in King's Landing. Going out on a limb... she uses her assassin skills to get close to Cersei, fights The Mountain and kills him, then Cersei.

LurkerDan 06-15-16 11:17 AM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 12827166)
With the time left for the show I think her storyline will be confined to confronting The Hound and in King's Landing. Going out on a limb... she uses her assassin skills to get close to Cersei, fights The Mountain and kills him, then Cersei.

Let's call it her Inigo Montoya moment.

Lastblade 06-15-16 11:28 AM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 12827166)
With the time left for the show I think her storyline will be confined to confronting The Hound and in King's Landing. Going out on a limb... she uses her assassin skills to get close to Cersei, fights The Mountain and kills him, then Cersei.

Arya's list is shortened, so I don't think there is really anywhere to go with her arc than to kill Cersei. Not sure about Zombie Mountain though.

I don't see her killing The Hound, she could have done it but didn't after getting to know him.

rw2516 06-15-16 03:41 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Lastblade (Post 12827365)
Arya's list is shortened, so I don't think there is really anywhere to go with her arc than to kill Cersei. Not sure about Zombie Mountain though.

I don't see her killing The Hound, she could have done it but didn't after getting to know him.

I don't think she will kill Hound either. As for Mountain, don't know anyone else who could kill him. He's sheer brute force. Ayra could dodge his blows until the right opening, then plunge Needle through the eye slit of his mask into his brain. That's how you kill a zombie. Right?

The Bus 06-15-16 03:45 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 12825314)
I don't like that explanation, and if that's Benioff's and Weiss's explanation too then it's poor writing. It doesn't mesh with the established identity and philosophy of the Faceless Men. The inconsistency is frustrating.

I would be satisfied with that explanation if it had been written and addressed properly.

Jason 06-15-16 04:20 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Maz Kanata (Post 12826905)
Still makes little fucking sense that she's walking around like a nose-in-the air highborn with bags of silver and no Needle. Stop making excuses for all of this, people. Arya's story was mishandled. The End.

Probably. I'm just glad this whole Many-Faced-God nonsense is OVER.


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