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GuessWho 06-13-16 04:12 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 12825786)
To me, it's just weird. Three weeks ago he was promising to do anything to save / help his mother. Now, after two brief conversations with the High Sparrow, he's suddenly snubbing his mother, depriving her of trial by combat and acting like a puppet. It makes no sense.

Well, he's back to banging his wife and presumably under her influence as well. It's all a means to an end for her though--she has to play along with Sparrow for a bit and she personally would not mind if Cersei was outta the equation anyway.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120626001421
...a hell of a drug

Bill Needle 06-13-16 04:12 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 12825314)
I don't like that explanation, and if that's Benioff's and Weiss's explanation too then it's poor writing. It doesn't mesh with the established identity and philosophy of the Faceless Men. The inconsistency is frustrating.

Let's recap:
-You have this order of religious assassins who worship The Many Faced God, the god of Death. The assassination contracts are essentially a sacrifice or offer to their God. They are trained to perform these assassinations quickly and quietly and to make these assassinations look like accidents.

-Arya decides that this gig isn't really for her. She doesn't want to be a Faceless Man. She just wants to learn their skills in her quest for revenge. This betrayal doesn't sit well with the Faceless Men, so they send one of their assassins after her. First, how is Arya so careless? Why doesn't she use a new face until she's at least outside of Braavos?
This assassin easily finds her, stabs her repeatedly with a 5 inch blade to her stomach and she jumps into some filthy sewer canal. Frankly this alone should have killed her, those are serious wounds. But she manages to find her way to the actress she saved and she just patches her up.

-The assassin tracks her down and they have this embarrassing chase sequence. Not only was it poorly shot, but you've got this assassin with no disguise running around holding a knife...that seems to go against all their training. I love how evasive Arya is with her stab wounds to the abdomen.

-Arya then sneaks into the House of Black & White with the Waif's face, tells Jaqen that the debt to the Many Faced God is paid, and leaves (not hobbling or limping at all, I might add). Jaqen just stands there with an "OK, I guess" look. I find it extremely hard to believe these explanations that this was all Jaqen's plan and part of the training. It's such a weak and lazy explanation.

I agree with most all of this, except for Arya using a face until she escapes since that worked out poorly before. And the blade she was stabbed with was longer than 5 inches, such that if it wasn't gimmicked or CGI the Waif would have stabbed herself through Arya. There was not enough Bactine in all of Braavos to get Arya up and parkouring that quickly.

Bill Needle 06-13-16 04:21 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 12825792)
Well, he's not wrong. Trial by combat is bullshit.

:lol: There is that. Never ignore the simplest answer.

Thrush 06-13-16 06:40 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 12825786)
To me, it's just weird. Three weeks ago he was promising to do anything to save / help his mother. Now, after two brief conversations with the High Sparrow, he's suddenly snubbing his mother, depriving her of trial by combat and acting like a puppet. It makes no sense.

Tommen has no spine. He is a Windsock. Turning in whatever direction the wind happens to be blowing.

Timber 06-13-16 06:51 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
If this was the Other forum I would say that Tommen is just controlled by the pussy but that might not be appropriate in this forum...Ah fuck it, we're all adult here and know how the world works.

buckeyes8604 06-13-16 06:57 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Sorraffy (Post 12825534)
to amend a Walking Dead saying, "If Davos dies, we riot"

Yes! I could live with anyone else dying, but not Davos. No way.

Bill Needle 06-13-16 07:02 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Thrush (Post 12825918)
Tommen has no spine. He is a Windsock. Turning in whatever direction the wind happens to be blowing.

The wind:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120626001421

The Infidel 06-13-16 07:14 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by MrX (Post 12825184)
Spoiler:
Jamie and Brienne at Riverrun has passed so LSH can't send Brienne to kill him. The Brotherhood seems to be the first group outside of the Watch to realize what's coming from the other side of the wall instead of focusing on killing Freys and Lannisters.

It would cheapen Jon's return if yet another character is brought back by another Lord of Light follower.

I'm sorry, but this is what came to mind when I started reading that...


The Infidel 06-13-16 07:20 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12825200)
Missendai is so hot and she was getting drunk - so fucking hot. I love that broad. :hump:


Originally Posted by csant (Post 12825294)
Yes, I agree 100% she is super hot.

She thanks you...


Bandoman 06-13-16 07:28 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by GuessWho (Post 12825801)
Well, he's back to banging his wife and presumably under her influence as well. It's all a means to an end for her though--she has to play along with Sparrow for a bit and she personally would not mind if Cersei was outta the equation anyway.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120626001421
...a hell of a drug

:up:

I think Margery has another plan...

Dr. DVD 06-13-16 07:49 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Upon reflection after last night:

-Since the Brotherhood without Banners made L.S.H. and they didn't even hint at the character's presence last night, I don't see it happening.

-Hound and Bronn get all of the great dialogue.

-I think Margery either wants total vengeance on the Faith Militant and is willing to align with Cersei , or she's using them to help her eliminate Cersei. Either way, I don't see it ending well for her or Tommen (remember the witch's prophecy).

-Dany's return looked kind of dumb. The way she entered one would think she was looking for the ladies' room more than anything else.

-Will next week's ep.9 be another case like other semi-final episodes in even numbered seasons (i.e. all of the action is focused on that one story with no deviations)? Also, is Neil Marshall the director?

Why So Blu? 06-13-16 07:58 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 12825981)
Upon reflection after last night:

-Since the Brotherhood without Banners made L.S.H. and they didn't even hint at the character's presence last night, I don't see it happening.

-Hound and Bronn get all of the great dialogue.

-I think Margery either wants total vengeance on the Faith Militant and is willing to align with Cersei , or she's using them to help her eliminate Cersei. Either way, I don't see it ending well for her or Tommen (remember the witch's prophecy).

-Dany's return looked kind of dumb. The way she entered one would think she was looking for the ladies' room more than anything else.

-Will next week's ep.9 be another case like other semi-final episodes in even numbered seasons (i.e. all of the action is focused on that one story with no deviations)? Also, is Neil Marshall the director?



Yes and no.

Greedoshotfirst 06-13-16 08:05 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 12825981)
-Will next week's ep.9 be another case like other semi-final episodes in even numbered seasons (i.e. all of the action is focused on that one story with no deviations)? Also, is Neil Marshall the director?

I think the battle will be most of the focused of this next episode, but they may sneak in a scene or two of something else before it's over. However, i'm perfectly fine with it being the whole episode. It is being directed by Miguel Sapochnik who did "Hardhome." The Season Finale will probably wrap up Dany and King's Landing story lines and i'm hoping we get one more White Walker scene before it's over.

slop101 06-13-16 08:07 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 12825981)
Also, is Neil Marshall the director?

It's gonna be Miguel Sapochnik, same guy who directed last season's Hardhome.

slop101 06-13-16 08:08 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Jinx!

Dr. DVD 06-13-16 08:36 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12825998)
It's gonna be Miguel Sapochnik, same guy who directed last season's Hardhome.

So that means we may get a peak into other aspects of Westeros, but the entire second half will be devoted to Jon vs. Ramsay. I could work with that or an entire ep. devoted to battle.

slop101 06-13-16 08:46 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Not necessarily. The trailer I posted only had scenes from the Jon vs. Ramsay battle, but I guess they could squeeze other settings in there.

johnnysd 06-13-16 09:35 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 12826031)
So that means we may get a peak into other aspects of Westeros, but the entire second half will be devoted to Jon vs. Ramsay. I could work with that or an entire ep. devoted to battle.

I find the battles a bit boring to be honest but Hardhome was intense, but this one will be more medieval warfare which is really really dull. Hopefully it is only 15 minutes or so.

Funny thing is no one is acknowledging that Arya's arc may end the same way in the books more or less.

Ropes Pierre 06-13-16 09:45 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
[QUOTE=Osiris3657;12825520The price is always high or dear, but within the means of the person if they are willing to make the sacrifice. The cost of their services depends on the prominence and security of the target.[/QUOTE]

i seem to recall something about a third of your fortune. whether it is a penny or a million as the price for an assassination.

Lifepawn 06-13-16 10:20 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
Arya Stark is no one...in the eyes of the many-faced god. She can't be killed because he doesn't know her name. Magical plot armor!

Ropes Pierre 06-13-16 10:47 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
"The price is always high or dear, but within the means of the person if they are willing to make the sacrifice. The cost of their services depends on the prominence and security of the target"

i seem to recall something about a third of your fortune. whether it is a penny or a million as the price for an assassination.

PhantomStranger 06-13-16 11:16 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 
I can't believe no one has mentioned that absolutely pointless scene with Tyrion Lannister telling jokes to the translator. That should have been left on the cutting room floor, it was useless padding.

I really have to wonder if GOT's main producers were handling this episode. Everything felt like it was second-rate GOT.

DaveyJoe 06-13-16 11:18 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12826157)
I can't believe no one has mentioned that absolutely pointless scene with Tyrion Lannister telling jokes to the translator. That should have been left on the cutting room floor, it was useless padding.

I really have to wonder if GOT's main producers were handling this episode. Everything felt like it was second-rate GOT.

They actually wrote this episode. I think it was a follow-up to his goodbye to Varys, who was his only friend in Essos. Tyrion is an alcoholic who has been exiled from his home, and he is desperately trying to reach out and build connections with people in this strange land. Just because a scene doesn't move the plot forward, doesn't mean it's pointless. I thought it was a funny, sad, and touching scene.

PhantomStranger 06-13-16 11:34 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 12826158)
They actually wrote this episode. I think it was a follow-up to his goodbye to Varys, who was his only friend in Essos. Tyrion is an alcoholic who has been exiled from his home, and he is desperately trying to reach out and build connections with people in this strange land. Just because a scene doesn't move the plot forward, doesn't mean it's pointless. I thought it was a funny, sad, and touching scene.

They could have written the script but left others to shepherd it through filming, which is always a critical part of a complex series like GOT. I get the feeling more of their attention was on the big, upcoming episode.

fumanstan 06-13-16 11:38 PM

Re: Game of Thrones (S6E08) -- "No One" -- 6/12/16
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12826157)
I can't believe no one has mentioned that absolutely pointless scene with Tyrion Lannister telling jokes to the translator. That should have been left on the cutting room floor, it was useless padding.

A few people mentioned it, actually.

I thought it started off terribly, but liked it when Greyworm actually got something in.


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