Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
10-21-15 | 12:56 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
Yea... not good. But this isn't a show that I want to go on for 10 years. Two (most likely) or three excellent seasons is good. Since the creator is starting work on the X-Men show, I don't see it going on.
10-21-15 | 01:04 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
What is the deal with the UFO stuff? A sighting in the first ep and a passage from War of the Worlds last night - paired with very UFO like movements up the side of the building. Curious to see where that goes.
The beauty shop owner's pretty interesting too. Seems to want into Dunst's pants a little bit.
The beauty shop owner's pretty interesting too. Seems to want into Dunst's pants a little bit.
10-21-15 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
I don't think that is going anywhere. It's just a callout to the UFO sightings that were rampant in the late 70's. I don't think it will tie into the story by any means. They are just ribbing us.
10-21-15 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
It's one of the reasons why FX was pleaded with people to stop reporting Live+SD ratings (they'd much prefer Live+3).
10-21-15 | 01:23 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
What is the deal with the UFO stuff? A sighting in the first ep and a passage from War of the Worlds last night - paired with very UFO like movements up the side of the building. Curious to see where that goes.
The beauty shop owner's pretty interesting too. Seems to want into Dunst's pants a little bit.
The beauty shop owner's pretty interesting too. Seems to want into Dunst's pants a little bit.
What’s up with the UFO?
For me it ties into the narrative that in the ’70s everything became like “black is white, the sky is the ground.” That’s the mindset. Obviously UFOs were huge in the ’70s. What do they say in “A Serious Man”? “Accept the mystery.” It’s not in there accidentally, let’s put it that way. We’ll see what it adds up to.
The Coens used a UFO in “The Man Who Wasn’t There.”
There was some permission I felt on some level that they had addressed that issue. The ’50s and the ’70s are sort of similar in that they’re both times of major paranoia in America. That seemed interesting to me.
It also seems to play into the idea this is a “true story” in a very broad sense.
When I first went in to FX to sell them on the idea that we should do this together, I said, “The first thing we have to figure out is what’s our Mike Yanagita?” (The high school classmate from Marge Gunderson’s past who she meets for a lunch date in the movie “Fargo.”) It’s like, “Why is this in the movie?” For me it’s in there because it’s one of those details where you’re like, “Why would they put it in unless it really happened?” They had to find a way to incorporate it into the story. The question for us was, “What are those moments for us?” There would be those moments where you might get a note like, “Do we need this scene?” That’s the fun of it. I don’t know how people are going to react to every element or every detail but nothing’s there as a gimmick for me. Everything’s there for a reason.
For me it ties into the narrative that in the ’70s everything became like “black is white, the sky is the ground.” That’s the mindset. Obviously UFOs were huge in the ’70s. What do they say in “A Serious Man”? “Accept the mystery.” It’s not in there accidentally, let’s put it that way. We’ll see what it adds up to.
The Coens used a UFO in “The Man Who Wasn’t There.”
There was some permission I felt on some level that they had addressed that issue. The ’50s and the ’70s are sort of similar in that they’re both times of major paranoia in America. That seemed interesting to me.
It also seems to play into the idea this is a “true story” in a very broad sense.
When I first went in to FX to sell them on the idea that we should do this together, I said, “The first thing we have to figure out is what’s our Mike Yanagita?” (The high school classmate from Marge Gunderson’s past who she meets for a lunch date in the movie “Fargo.”) It’s like, “Why is this in the movie?” For me it’s in there because it’s one of those details where you’re like, “Why would they put it in unless it really happened?” They had to find a way to incorporate it into the story. The question for us was, “What are those moments for us?” There would be those moments where you might get a note like, “Do we need this scene?” That’s the fun of it. I don’t know how people are going to react to every element or every detail but nothing’s there as a gimmick for me. Everything’s there for a reason.
10-21-15 | 02:14 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
The fact that a show like this isn't getting good ratings is a clear reflection of how fucking stupid people in the 18-49 have become. We are doomed. 
10-21-15 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
What’s up with the UFO?
For me it ties into the narrative that in the ’70s everything became like “black is white, the sky is the ground.” That’s the mindset. Obviously UFOs were huge in the ’70s. What do they say in “A Serious Man”? “Accept the mystery.” It’s not in there accidentally, let’s put it that way. We’ll see what it adds up to.
"I don’t know how people are going to react to every element or every detail but nothing’s there as a gimmick for me. Everything’s there for a reason."
So it may not just be a one-off joke. When I saw the first ep, it also reminded me of Man Who Wasn't There and thought it was an homage. But on Monday, along with the vertical panning, there were lights reflecting off the building. And I suppose the 'WotW' narration could be a metaphor for the family business vs the new corporate business, or something similar, but that ending felt weightier. I'm not saying actual aliens will show up, but it just seems more than just a ribbing now to me.
For me it ties into the narrative that in the ’70s everything became like “black is white, the sky is the ground.” That’s the mindset. Obviously UFOs were huge in the ’70s. What do they say in “A Serious Man”? “Accept the mystery.” It’s not in there accidentally, let’s put it that way. We’ll see what it adds up to.
"I don’t know how people are going to react to every element or every detail but nothing’s there as a gimmick for me. Everything’s there for a reason."
So it may not just be a one-off joke. When I saw the first ep, it also reminded me of Man Who Wasn't There and thought it was an homage. But on Monday, along with the vertical panning, there were lights reflecting off the building. And I suppose the 'WotW' narration could be a metaphor for the family business vs the new corporate business, or something similar, but that ending felt weightier. I'm not saying actual aliens will show up, but it just seems more than just a ribbing now to me.
10-21-15 | 03:22 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
Absolutely. Maybe FX should have just bitten the bullet and put the damn thing on Sunday nights, like every other network does with their best shows.
10-21-15 | 03:28 PM
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I am ok with this going under the radar actually. I think the network is getting a lot of curiosity in the form of dvd.
10-21-15 | 03:38 PM
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10-21-15 | 03:42 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
Uhhh... Mr. Robot? I can see people not liking that show for its content, but the cinematography is simply fantastic. It "feels like a feature film" even down to the opening credits. Just a few examples.
But this show is on a whole new level.
10-22-15 | 12:58 AM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
Uhhh... Mr. Robot? I can see people not liking that show for its content, but the cinematography is simply fantastic. It "feels like a feature film" even down to the opening credits. Just a few examples.
But Fargo is simply stunning, and so far there has not been a single throw away second in the entire two episodes and it is so magnificent to watch.
10-22-15 | 02:26 AM
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10-24-15 | 10:08 AM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
Loved this episode as well. Had to wait to the weekend to watch it with my daughter. I hope Live + 7 ratings count for something. Plus if this show goes on to clean up at the Emmys (which feels possible), FX might keep it around for prestige. Anyways, I thought it was great and I'm liking it more than the beginning of Season One (which annoyed me at the time me because it seemed like everyone on that show besides Malvo was acting like an idiot until they shifted the focus to Molly in the second half). I think Ted Danson is great in this -- he's pretty much great in everything, but his mixture of paternal caring and world-weary experience is a fascinating watch in this show. And yeah, Bokeem Woodbine's unspoken menace is fantastic. To compare his exchange with Danson in this episode to the traffic stop of Malvo by Gus in the Pilot -- here it felt like a real stand-off between worthy foes as opposed to a clear mismatch in Season One.
11-27-15 | 04:14 PM
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Re: Fargo (S2E02) -- "Before The Law" -- 10/19/15
It was from the Brillaint Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds
with Richard Burton as narrator. One of the best things he ever did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_W..._of_the_Worlds
with Richard Burton as narrator. One of the best things he ever did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_W..._of_the_Worlds
