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dex14 06-18-15 05:25 AM
Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...0f&oe=563370A0
"HANNIBAL"

"SECONDO"

06/18/2015 (10:00PM - 11:00PM) (Thursday) : WILL GRAHAM ENCOUNTERS A POSSIBLE ALLY IN HIS SEARCH FOR HANNIBAL LECTER -- Will Graham (Hugh Dancy) continues his search for Hannibal Lecter (Mads Mikkelsen), making his way to Hannibal's childhood home in Lithuania. Once there he meets the mysterious Chiyoh (Tao Okamoto), former attendant to Hannibal's aunt. Meanwhile, Jack Crawford (Laurence Fishburne) arrives in Italy, hoping to find Will and intervene before tragedy strikes again, and Bedelia (Gillian Anderson) warns Hannibal against unraveling his new life. TV-14 V

TGM 06-19-15 05:58 AM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
icepick!

http://i.imgur.com/HDI7mnQ.jpg

Seven%Solution 06-19-15 11:17 AM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
I audibly gasped at that! Jesus! They're really pushing what they can get away with, and I support them 100%.

RichC2 06-19-15 11:19 AM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
With fewer than 2m viewers, I feel like they could have an explicit gangbang and it wouldn't register to the greater masses.

onebyone 06-19-15 05:07 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Another beautiful episode. I loved all the scenes with Hannibal and Bedilia, especially when she asked him how his sister tasted. She is one strange female character. Love it!

It seems like the music was even more on point that usual.

The only negative I have for this show is that they have fake killed one character too many. I am basing this on the trailer for last week, maybe they will prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12513463)
With fewer than 2m viewers, I feel like they could have an explicit gangbang and it wouldn't register to the greater masses.

They should try your theory, just to be sure....

hdnmickey 06-19-15 09:43 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by Seven%Solution (Post 12513460)
I audibly gasped at that! Jesus!
But technically, it was Bedilia that killed him. :lol:

Great episode. Wonder if they will ever tell us who the prisoner was, and if Hannibal killed and ate his sister, what the dude really did to deserve it all.

sleepyhead55 06-19-15 11:11 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 12514089)
But technically, it was Bedilia that killed him. :lol:

Great episode. Wonder if they will ever tell us who the prisoner was, and if Hannibal killed and ate his sister, what the dude really did to deserve it all.
Yeah, that dialogue during the icepick scene was pretty hilarious.

I think it's pretty obvious that Hannibal killed and ate his sister. The prisoner I believe was a psychological test for Chiyo. Basically, Hannibal wanted to see whether or not Chiyo could kill a person.

The scenes set in Eastern Europe had a very mystical feel to them and I enjoyed them alot.

And I'm still trying to figure out what Bedalia's "end game" is here. That is going to be real interesting to see as the season goes along.

andicus 06-20-15 01:35 AM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
I don't want to spoil anything, but has anyone read Hannibal Rising?

This show certainly seems to be borrowing from that.

Jay G. 06-20-15 10:37 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by andicus (Post 12514171)
I don't want to spoil anything, but has anyone read Hannibal Rising?

This show certainly seems to be borrowing from that.
Yeah, they've stated that the first half of this season is basically a mash-up of the Hannibal and Hannibal Rising novels.

mwbmis 06-21-15 01:35 AM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
I actually didn't care for this episode. While the style of the show has always been as important as the storytelling, I feel like it's starting to overshadow it this season. The show has to have at least some narrative push.

I assume that this episode will end up being a piece in the larger story, but that doesn't mean I didn't spend most of it looking at how much time was left til the end.

hdnmickey 06-21-15 09:55 AM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by andicus (Post 12514171)
I don't want to spoil anything, but has anyone read Hannibal Rising?

This show certainly seems to be borrowing from that.
What do you specifically see coming from that novel? Other than the name of the sister, and the castle, they seem to be going in a different direction with the plot.

Jay G. 06-21-15 03:06 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 12514698)
I actually didn't care for this episode. While the style of the show has always been as important as the storytelling, I feel like it's starting to overshadow it this season. The show has to have at least some narrative push. .
Interestingly, these first three episodes have all been directed by Vincenzo Natali. Maybe it's a case of not liking his particular style.

Supermallet 06-21-15 03:30 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
I assumed they were taking elements from Hannibal Rising without explicitly doing an adaptation of Hannibal Rising, because frankly the last thing anyone wants to see is teenage Hannibal.

Thrush 06-21-15 08:56 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
So who exactly was the girl in the house? Hannibal's adopted sister? Did he eat his real sister? Was the guy in the cage his father?

I'm thoroughly confused.

andicus 06-21-15 09:39 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 12514786)
What do you specifically see coming from that novel? Other than the name of the sister, and the castle, they seem to be going in a different direction with the plot.
Spoilered talk about Hannibal Rising:
Spoiler:
The name of his sister.
His sister being cannibalized.
Chiyo could potentially be used in the Lady Murasaki role, i.e. using her to draw Hannibal in. We'll see how that progresses.

Jay G. 06-21-15 09:50 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by Thrush (Post 12515167)
So who exactly was the girl in the house? Hannibal's adopted sister? Did he eat his real sister? Was the guy in the cage his father?

I'm thoroughly confused.
They didn't explain much in the episode; presumably they may explain more now that she's traveling with will. Or not.

Outside of the episode, based on news about the show and info on the novel Hannibal Rising, the woman was...
Spoiler:
Chiyo, the attendant of Hannibal's aunt, Lady Murasaki, whom he goes to live with after Mischa dies. Chiyo does not have a larger role in the books; her role has been expanded for the TV show, essentially taking over for Lady Murasaki herself, which they felt was too old a character for what they wanted to do.

The man may be one of five people that killed and at Mischa (they were German deserters during WWII in the book, this will likely be changed). Or he may be someone Hannibal simply decided to torture and test Chiyo with, using his dead sister as a pretense.


I think this season is doing a bit of a slow burn with these first few episodes, setting up characters and history for the later episode to play out.

alfredog1976 06-22-15 04:02 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Canceled:
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/22...celed-nbc?adsf

NBC is killing off Hannibal.

The network is canceling the show after three seasons.

“We have been tremendously proud of Hannibal over its three seasons,” NBC said in a statement. “[Showrunner Bryan Fuller] and his team of writers and producers, as well as our incredible actors, have brought a visual palette of storytelling that has been second to none in all of television — broadcast or cable. We thank Gaumont and everyone involved in the show for their tireless efforts that have made Hannibal an incredible experience for audiences around the world.”

Showrunner Fuller also had a statement: “NBC has allowed us to craft a television series that no other broadcast network would have dared, and kept us on the air for three seasons despite Cancellation Bear Chow ratings and images that would have shredded the eyeballs of lesser Standards & Practices enforcers. Jen Salke and her team have been fantastic partners and creatively supportive beyond measure. Hannibal is finishing his last course at NBC’s table this summer, but a hungry cannibal can always dine again. And personally, I look forward to my next meal with NBC.”

majorjoe23 06-22-15 04:05 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
This really sucks, but every renewal was a surprise.

Jay G. 06-22-15 04:13 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by alfredog1976 (Post 12515955)
At least the full 3rd season will air. From the same article:
NBC will still air all 10 episodes of the current season, which is running on Thursdays at 10 p.m.
I guess we'll see if they'll shop it around. This certainly gives them time to do so.

DJariya 06-22-15 04:14 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
I'm not shocked because the show was living on borrowed time, but

Why the fuck was no one watching it??

Was it just too dark for network TV?

Jay G. 06-22-15 04:19 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12515967)
I'm not shocked because the show was living on borrowed time, but

Why the fuck was no one watching it??

Was it just too dark for network TV?
I think many people dismissed it because it was on a network, and probably thought they couldn't do the dark subject matter justice.

Conversely, the people that regularly watch network procedurals were likely turned off by the dark subject matter and deeply serial storyline.

Also, the most recent Hannibal Lector properties (Hannibal Rising, Red Dragon remake) didn't lead people to think it would be good.



I got the "The Art and Making of Hannibal: The Television Series" book recently. As I was showing it to someone, they looked at the images and asked, "so it's a cable show, like on HBO?" and were surprised it was on NBC.

Bob_Bobbson 06-22-15 04:30 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Tweeted by the Delaurentiis Co just a few minutes ago:

"Second, we are exploring other options for future seasons. #Hannibal"

https://twitter.com/DeLaurentiisCo/s...93600256102400

-pray-

The Valeyard 06-22-15 04:36 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
^ I certainly hope so. I fucking love this show.

Deftones 06-22-15 04:41 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
Originally Posted by Bob_Bobbson (Post 12515987)
Tweeted by the Delaurentiis Co just a few minutes ago:

"Second, we are exploring other options for future seasons. #Hannibal"

https://twitter.com/DeLaurentiisCo/s...93600256102400

-pray-
If it does go anywhere, it'll be Amazon. They already paid for it once and I thought I read somewhere it did fairly well for them.

chowderhead 06-22-15 04:44 PM
Re: Hannibal (S3E03) - Secondo - 6/18/15
 
hopefully, it gets picked up elsewhere. I want to know more about Bedelia


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