Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
#201
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
Why would the Cersei actress use CGI? To hide imperfections or to hide her body in general? Her body surely looks something like that so why bother?
How can Melisandre make evil smoke babies but be so wrong about Stannis' fate - unless she actually knew his fate and thats why she bailed early.
How can Melisandre make evil smoke babies but be so wrong about Stannis' fate - unless she actually knew his fate and thats why she bailed early.
Melisandre is not infallible. She does have sight, but unfortunately for Shireen, she doesn't always correctly interpret what she has seen.
#203
DVD Talk Limited Edition
#204
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
As for Lena Headey "not wanting to do it", what is CGI really hiding? Made her breasts better? Made her skinnier? Like I said, I'm pretty sure her body is similar to what was seen.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
#205
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
As for Lena Headey "not wanting to do it", what is CGI really hiding? Made her breasts better? Made her skinnier? Like I said, I'm pretty sure her body is similar to what was seen.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
#206
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
Yep, any wide shot where you could see the goods didn't appear to be her.
#209
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
I don't recall The Mountain's resurrection. Was the last time we saw him when he fought in the trial by combat?
Would, say, 10 feet of snow save a person jumping from that height? I don't think so. Maybe.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EksaafuZhl0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I remember tons of people were doing it in Boston too this last winter.
#210
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
I just rewatched the episode. I was surprised to realize how much of that scene shows Cersei only from the shoulders up. There are many wider shots interspersed throughout--in which you can definitely tell they CGI'd her face onto another's body, or the shot is from behind--but a large part of the walk of shame is relatively close-up on Cersei's head and bare shoulders.
#211
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
As for Lena Headey "not wanting to do it", what is CGI really hiding? Made her breasts better? Made her skinnier? Like I said, I'm pretty sure her body is similar to what was seen.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
I don't really remember how specifically Melisandre has talked about her actual visions on the show, but it's obvious at this point she was misinterpreting what she saw. In her point of view chapter in the fifth book, she was struggling to figure out what she was seeing. Her outward confidence is at least partially an act. I think Thoros of Mir as much as said in season 3 that he thought she misinterpreting what she was seeing.
#212
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
There have been stories of people falling from thousands of feet in the sky, and surviving by falling through branches/snow etc.
#213
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
#214
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
As for Lena Headey "not wanting to do it", what is CGI really hiding? Made her breasts better? Made her skinnier? Like I said, I'm pretty sure her body is similar to what was seen.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
As for Melisandre, she was pretty convinced for a few seasons, well before the Shireen incident, that Stannis was going to be the victor in a bloody battle in the snow.
#216
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
I don't really remember how specifically Melisandre has talked about her actual visions on the show, but it's obvious at this point she was misinterpreting what she saw. In her point of view chapter in the fifth book, she was struggling to figure out what she was seeing. Her outward confidence is at least partially an act. I think Thoros of Mir as much as said in season 3 that he thought she misinterpreting what she was seeing.
It just wasn't Stannis doing it
Last edited by Shazam; 06-15-15 at 03:30 PM.
#217
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
Wasn't the news report during filming that they Croatian church they were filming at wouldn't let them film the scene with a nude woman walking through the streets? I wonder if that's why we get more shoulders and up scenes (besides allowing for more emotion). Or did they eventually work that out?
#218
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
Kit Harrington was on some late night shows last week. His hair is still pretty long. It's not like he got a buzz cut. I actually took his hair length as a positive sign for his return.
The question I have is why kill Jon after you let a bunch of Wildlings through the gate? Why even open the gate to begin with? Now, you have them all on your side of the wall, and you've murdered the only person in black that they somewhat trust. Killing Jon is somewhat short-sighted. Of course the same issue exists in the book.
I was disappointed that they had Alliser Thorne do it though. I always viewed Thorne as an asshole, but not a treasonous asshole.
The question I have is why kill Jon after you let a bunch of Wildlings through the gate? Why even open the gate to begin with? Now, you have them all on your side of the wall, and you've murdered the only person in black that they somewhat trust. Killing Jon is somewhat short-sighted. Of course the same issue exists in the book.
I was disappointed that they had Alliser Thorne do it though. I always viewed Thorne as an asshole, but not a treasonous asshole.
Having said that I think GRRM is degenerating into an asshole and I bet the show ends up being better than the books. Unless you like the cooking channel.
#219
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
Stop it, I can't stand it when people push this theory. Syrio and Jaqen are NOT the same person.
Syrio was going to kill or be killed in his confrontation with Meryn Trant. He wasn't going to surrender or run away, nor was Trant going to take him prisoner. Syrio, while a very talented swordsman, was fighting with a broken stick and no armor, while Trant is a Kingsguard (has to be a great swordsman) wearing full armor and has his broadsword.
Trant walked away from that encounter, Syrio didn't. He's dead.
Syrio was going to kill or be killed in his confrontation with Meryn Trant. He wasn't going to surrender or run away, nor was Trant going to take him prisoner. Syrio, while a very talented swordsman, was fighting with a broken stick and no armor, while Trant is a Kingsguard (has to be a great swordsman) wearing full armor and has his broadsword.
Trant walked away from that encounter, Syrio didn't. He's dead.
We don't know how or why Jaqen ended up in the cells. It could have all been a plan to recruit Arya.
Last edited by chowderhead; 06-15-15 at 03:37 PM.
#220
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
That "swordsman guy" was one of Arya's favorite people in the world.
He's been in Qyburn's lab since then. They had a few shots of him like under a tarp or something and Qyburn makes some cryptic remark that hints he's working on The Mountain.
Here's a Russian jumping into snow from a 5 story building:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EksaafuZhl0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I remember tons of people were doing it in Boston too this last winter.
He's been in Qyburn's lab since then. They had a few shots of him like under a tarp or something and Qyburn makes some cryptic remark that hints he's working on The Mountain.
Here's a Russian jumping into snow from a 5 story building:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EksaafuZhl0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I remember tons of people were doing it in Boston too this last winter.
#221
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
It is very possible that Meryn killed Syrio. I will grant that. If Meryn did kill Syrio, Arya should have been justified in avenging his death. But Jaqen H'ghar said that Arya had taken the wrong life and only death can pay for life. It could be that Jaqen meant Arya isn't Arya anymore and shouldn't seek out old grievances or that she was to kill the gambler guy but it could also mean Meryn didn't kill Syrio so she shouldn't have killed him. I interpret it one way, you can interpret it another. If I don't see the body or head on a spike, I will not assume the person is dead and even then we have FrankenMountain and Beric Dondarrion coming back.
We don't know how or why Jaqen ended up in the cells. It could have all been a plan to recruit Arya.
We don't know how or why Jaqen ended up in the cells. It could have all been a plan to recruit Arya.
#222
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
So, who actually drank the poison and died, since it wasn't Jaqen?
Seems like it would be tough to get somebody to volunteer to do that.
Seems like it would be tough to get somebody to volunteer to do that.
#223
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
#224
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15
Jaqen told her to go to the docks and see what she finds. She found the gambling man and told him about the man. But Arya also found Meryn a few days later. Seems strange the Many-Faced God doesn't allow them to multi-task.
Last edited by chowderhead; 06-15-15 at 03:51 PM.
#225
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Game of Thrones (S5E10) - Season Finale - "Mother's Mercy" - 6/14/15