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Old 03-24-15, 04:26 PM
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The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15




"Rogue Time" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)

CAPTAIN COLD AND HEAT WAVE RETURN TO CENTRAL CITY; PEYTON LIST GUEST STARS AS LISA SNART - The Flash (Grant Gustin) learns that Captain Cold (guest star Wentworth Miller) and Heat Wave (guest star Dominic Purcell) have returned to Central City. This time Snart has brought along his baby sister Lisa (guest star Peyton List) to help wreak havoc on the city. John Behring directed the episode with story by Grainne Godfree and teleplay by Brooke Eikmeier & Kai Yu Wu (#116). Original airdate 3/24/2015.

Episode 16 of 23


Nice Peyton List back on The CW. Kind of ironic that she and Robbie Amell are back on the same show
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Not as good as last week, but then again no way it was going to be.
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So the Snark siblings go and rob a casino truck for millions of dollars when they now have a gun that turns things ... anything to Gold! Yeah, I would just retire on my beach and make gold all day.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by anomynous
Not as good as last week, but then again no way it was going to be.
My thoughts exactly. Last week was some of the best TV ever. I thought they'd go through almost all the same events with Barry making different choices. Instead, he puts away the bad guy in the first five minutes!
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Which is smart. Would be really annoying and make him look stupid letting things go on as they did knowing what the outcome is.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Instead, he puts away the bad guy in the first five minutes!
Thank you show!

I love when they make people smart!
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Waiting for them to retcon these events too.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Interesting bit on potential future casting.

Spoiler:
Tom Welling Might Appear on The Flash as Superman

Now normally we don’t report on rumors, but this one seems to be based on a semi-confirmation. According to Comic Central City Greg Berlanti talked at a CW Event stating that Superman may appear in Season 2 of The Flash and he will be played by Tom Welling, who is known for playing Clark Kent/The Blur on The WB/CW’s Smallville for 10 Seasons.




Apparently the events of the Season Finale will cause Barry to end up in an alternate universe (the Smallville Universe), not only that but Cisco and Caitlin will develop meta-human abilities
Now the idea of Tom Welling appearing as Superman makes sense in the context of the story, when Barry changes his mother’s fate he returns to another version of the universe, Smallville introduced us to the multi-universe concept and with Infinite Crisis being a developing story on The Flash it’s not too far off.

Unfortunately Tom Welling has found very little in the way of acting roles since he played Clark Kent and was even considered to play Superman when Bret Ratner was attached to Superman Returns, so maybe its about time.

It’s important to note that Geoff Johns spoke a while back that Batman & Superman were off-limits “right now” but never said they would never appear and if they were to go along with it would already be established that he was completely different from Man of Steel version of the character.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Nevermind. Seems it was a BS rumor.

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That Tom Welling On The Flash Story? Not True.

There’s an article circulating from a not very reputable website claiming that Tom Welling is going to be playing Superman in the season finale of The Flash, and that Flash Executive Producer Greg Berlanti (who is also doing Supergirl) told reporters this during a CW event.

Some variations of this “story” claim that Barry Allen will end up in the Smallville universe at the end of Season 1, which sounds like something a fanfiction writer would come up with.

This is not true.

There was no CW event in which Greg Berlanti said this – we would have been there, plus, aside from the TCA press tour and the Arrow/Flash crossover event, Berlanti hasn’t done a lot of press as he’s been so busy producing new TV including Supergirl.

Secondly, Tom didn’t even really put on the costume for the Smallville finale – unless there’s been a change of heart, it’s doubtful that he’d put on the suit for another show.

Next, the article in question cites a “Comic Central City” as their source – a website that does not exist.

We aren’t going to link to the original article – that website has gotten enough traffic off of making up fake news anyway – but also keep in mind this source has promised Comic-Con trailers happening that never do, and now they’re saying Tobey Maguire will be Marvel’s Spider-Man in the next Captain America movie. They’ll say stuff that some people want to hear, but it doesn’t make it any more true, and sharing articles like that don’t make them suddenly become reality.

So, don’t always believe everything you read on websites you’ve never heard of! Unless it’s April 1, in which case, everything is true.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Nevermind. Seems it was a BS rumor.
I think I may have been responsible for that rumor. I suggested that exact scenario on this board in one of the earliest Flash episode threads. It would be fun if Barry got to visit parallel dimensions. I would probably break down and cry tears of joy if they ever had Earth 2 on this show.

Cisco has a future as a weapons designer. Under the threat of death he came up with a gun for Golden Glider.

I am not sure I like the deal Barry cut with Snart to preserve his secret identity but he's starting to realize villains would threaten his loved ones with an open identity.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

That wouldn't make sense, as it would conflict with who plays Arrow and the other Flash that was on Smallville. If anything, they'd use the guy they cast for the Supergirl show.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by anomynous
Not as good as last week, but then again no way it was going to be.
I was just bummed how much less it was than last week. Even the scenes dealing with the time travel aftermath were less than wonderful.

Only redeeming part of the whole episode was the scene between Flash and Cold given the dialogue. And even that contained to much camp after the prior episode being all but totally camp free.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

This wasn't as good as last weeks episode but I like how they switched things up and showed how Barry's decisions effected everyone else in the show. Next week's episode looks like it's going to be really, really fun.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by robin2099
This wasn't as good as last weeks episode but I like how they switched things up and showed how Barry's decisions effected everyone else in the show. Next week's episode looks like it's going to be really, really fun.
I hope you're right. But I have concerns given the little time they showed in the preview could have been taken from the Adam West Batman series. This series is best when it's more grounded and not amping up the camp factor.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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I am not sure I like the deal Barry cut with Snart to preserve his secret identity but he's starting to realize villains would threaten his loved ones with an open identity.
I thought that was an interesting way for Snart to eventually move toward the Hero side of things (perhaps in the other series).

If Barry had only realized that going bowling was the key to the relationship changes. At least that's how it appeared to me.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by dex14
That wouldn't make sense, as it would conflict with who plays Arrow and the other Flash that was on Smallville. If anything, they'd use the guy they cast for the Supergirl show.
Flash can cross parallel universes with the help of the Cosmic Treadmill. It wouldn't conflict at all with Arrow's continuity.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by Goldberg74
Waiting for them to retcon these events too.
You can just stop watching and retcon them in your head!
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
Flash can cross parallel universes with the help of the Cosmic Treadmill. It wouldn't conflict at all with Arrow's continuity.
The point I'm making is they had Oliver Queen on Smallville played by a different actor. They also had Barry Allen. Using Tom Welling as Superman would be too confusing because those shows aren't connected to that at all. They would be better to use the Superman they are casting in the Supergirl show, since that is connected to the CW shows.

The discussion is moot since the rumor was refuted.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by dex14
The point I'm making is they had Oliver Queen on Smallville played by a different actor. They also had Barry Allen. Using Tom Welling as Superman would be too confusing because those shows aren't connected to that at all. They would be better to use the Superman they are casting in the Supergirl show, since that is connected to the CW shows.

The discussion is moot since the rumor was refuted.
Prepare yourself for this revelation- multiple versions of the same character exist in comic books. Welling would be playing the Smallville Superman, not The Flash's Superman if that guy even exists. Our Barry might even meet another Barry. The two Supermen could meet and be separate characters. Television has been deftly afraid of introducing that comic book trope but if any show does it, it will be The Flash.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Yes. I understand that. In the context of this show, it would be too confusing for a general audience.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

From my vague recollection they only used Bart Allen and Impulse in Smallville, there was no Barry.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Good episode. Nice to see things play out a lot differently, rather than Barry just changing past events as they happen.

What exactly was the deal Barry made with Snart? Barry letting him do his crimes as long as no one dies?
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by JuryDuty
My thoughts exactly. Last week was some of the best TV ever. I thought they'd go through almost all the same events with Barry making different choices. Instead, he puts away the bad guy in the first five minutes!
Barry Allen is the worst time traveler ever.

Altering the time line to "retcon" last week's events really didn't bother me. Going from a great storyline last week to those dumbasses with their fancy ray guns was the real letdown.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by Nth Power
What exactly was the deal Barry made with Snart? Barry letting him do his crimes as long as no one dies?
More like he can try, with Barry knowing that he can easily stop any normal human like him pretty easily.


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