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Old 03-25-15 | 09:46 PM
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by dex14
Yes. I understand that. In the context of this show, it would be too confusing for a general audience.
No, it wouldn't be confusing.
What is a general audience anyway. At least for a show like this the audience would love to see an appearance like that.
Not many people remember any of that other stuff anyway.

People have been recast on tv shows all the time and no viewer has ever
lost his mind from confusion.

Wasn't an actor on Arrow recast with some one else?
Old 03-25-15 | 10:38 PM
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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Altering the time line to "retcon" last week's events really didn't bother me. Going from a great storyline last week to those dumbasses with their fancy ray guns was the real letdown.
The only problem I have with the current Rogues on this show is Heatwave played by Dominic Purcell. I get that the character is supposed to be edgy and needs to be reined in by Captain Cold. Purcell has played him way over the top, too much even for a superhero show.
Old 03-25-15 | 11:26 PM
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

You have a gun that turns anything to gold and you use it to rob people?

Ok episode I guess, although I found that Barry's trust in the Doctor turned a bit too quickly.
Old 03-25-15 | 11:30 PM
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You have a gun that turns anything to gold and you use it to rob people?
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Old 03-26-15 | 12:47 AM
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by whotony
No, it wouldn't be confusing.
What is a general audience anyway. At least for a show like this the audience would love to see an appearance like that.
Not many people remember any of that other stuff anyway.

People have been recast on tv shows all the time and no viewer has ever
lost his mind from confusion.

Wasn't an actor on Arrow recast with some one else?
Yes, Sara Lance was played by a different actor in the Pilot episode. Once they brought her back as a guest star, they recast her with Lotz.

I would have liked to have seen some more damaging effects to Barry's actions from last week. It almost made last week pointless. Sucked for Liam McIntyre to have an awesome guest starring role last week to being in it less than 5 minutes and taking a backseat to Miller and Purcell. But, it was still an entertaining episode.

Curious to see how they segue Miller and Purcell from this show to the new potential spinoff.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by Eric F
You have a gun that turns anything to gold and you use it to rob people?

Ok episode I guess, although I found that Barry's trust in the Doctor turned a bit too quickly.
I hope they explain what he saw or thought to turn him so quickly. I can't imagine they won't elaborate on what happened in a future episode.

And I also thought the gold gun was silly. They could have explained it was just a gold colored substance, which I guess it still could be.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Another solid episode, even if it made last week's a waste. My main gripe is still Iris. That actress and the actor who plays Barry literally have negative chemistry. Every time they talk it feels beyond forced.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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Another solid episode, even if it made last week's a waste. My main gripe is still Iris. That actress and the actor who plays Barry literally have negative chemistry. Every time they talk it feels beyond forced.
They have the type of romantic chemistry one might expect to find between a brother and sister -- oh wait. I get it that Barry and Iris aren't technically related and that the comics have preordained their union but it still comes across on screen as creepy.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Iris in those thigh high boots
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They have the type of romantic chemistry one might expect to find between a brother and sister -- oh wait. I get it that Barry and Iris aren't technically related and that the comics have preordained their union but it still comes across on screen as creepy.
That's my main complaint. Barry grew up with the West's since he was a little kid and is in almost all respects, a member of the family.

I have an adopted sister and even though were not blood related, any kind of romantic involvement doesn't even come to mind. Super gross.
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I hope they explain what he saw or thought to turn him so quickly. I can't imagine they won't elaborate on what happened in a future episode.
Spoiler:
It was the fact that the newspaper man who the evidence against Wells disappears the day before he releases the article.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by Eric F
You have a gun that turns anything to gold and you use it to rob people?
They should have thrown in some explanation that it turned objects into fool's gold, ala iron pyrite. Having Cisco whip up a gun in hours that could transmute items to gold was probably overstepping the limits of comic book science.

The original Golden Glider had rocket-powered ice skates that created their own ice surface as she committed crimes. I could understand why they stayed away from that power set.
Originally Posted by starseed1981
Another solid episode, even if it made last week's a waste. My main gripe is still Iris. That actress and the actor who plays Barry literally have negative chemistry. Every time they talk it feels beyond forced.
I think some posters here need to come to grips with Iris. Her and Barry will eventually get married one day, no matter what anyone thinks of their chemistry. I don't see the same issues others have with their relationship, though Iris could show more interest at times. Barry has done a better job "selling" his romantic interest in Iris to the audience, than vice-versa.

People have to understand that Iris was an aloof girlfriend in the comics. She never deserved Barry.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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I think some posters here need to come to grips with Iris. Her and Barry will eventually get married one day, no matter what anyone thinks of their chemistry. I don't see the same issues others have with their relationship, though Iris could show more interest at times. Barry has done a better job "selling" his romantic interest in Iris to the audience, than vice-versa.

People have to understand that Iris was an aloof girlfriend in the comics. She never deserved Barry.
I don't know why more people here don't like Iris. She's a beautiful actress and I totally buy their chemistry.

She's a far cry from Laurel on Arrow.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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I don't know why more people here don't like Iris. She's a beautiful actress and I totally buy their chemistry.

She's a far cry from Laurel on Arrow.
I like her and I was prepared to dislike the casting in the beginning. I agree she meshes far better with Barry than Laurel does with Oliver on Arrow.

They probably have pushed that brother and sister dynamic too much in season one.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

I like Iris and the actress who plays her. I just don't like they made her Barry's de facto sister and then try to make a romance out of it. Feels even creepier that Joe seems to be all for it.

Maybe it would have felt less gross if Barry moved in with them when he was 16 or something rather than a little kid...I don't know.

How was it in the comics?
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

They probably have pushed that brother and sister dynamic too much in season one.
This is the problem right here. That not really related but still really close brother/sister dynamic is just a bit of a level of creepy.

I mean, not really for Geoff Johns, given that he's had such a hardon for his dead sister and it's pretty clearly coming out in this show, but still a little awkward for most.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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I like Iris and the actress who plays her. I just don't like they made her Barry's de facto sister and then try to make a romance out of it. Feels even creepier that Joe seems to be all for it.

Maybe it would have felt less gross if Barry moved in with them when he was 16 or something rather than a little kid...I don't know.

How was it in the comics?
In the comics, they met as adults.
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Even though they are not related growing up for so many years starting at a younger age makes it feel a bit odd. If they went this way they likely should have just left it as a really close friendship.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

Originally Posted by johnnysd
Spoiler:
It was the fact that the newspaper man who the evidence against Wells disappears the day before he releases the article.
Spoiler:
That's what I thought, but I also thought it was too simple an answer for why Barry would completely lose trust in Wells. You'd think this reporter would have made enemies if he was the type of reporter who investigated these types of things. Guess I thought there would be more to it than that.
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Spoiler:
That's what I thought, but I also thought it was too simple an answer for why Barry would completely lose trust in Wells. You'd think this reporter would have made enemies if he was the type of reporter who investigated these types of things. Guess I thought there would be more to it than that.
It's a combination of several episodes. There was what happened last episode, what happened this episode, Joe's suspicions about him, and he was suspicious about Simon Stagg disappearing also.

Come to think of it, the idea of Barry and Iris getting together never really bothered me but now that I think about it, it does remind me of how creepy it was on Dexter when they tried going that same route.
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Huge season ending(?) spoiler for The Flash & Arrow:


Spoiler:



Old 03-26-15 | 07:26 PM
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Yeh that was posted over at bluray.com. I asked why it was put in spoiler tags.

I don't see that need but what do I know I guess.
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Yeh that was posted over at bluray.com. I asked why it was put in spoiler tags.

I don't see that need but what do I know I guess.
They're confronting
Spoiler:
an unmasked Reverse Flash.
That's a pretty big spoiler.
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RF has already been revealed, several times on the show.

I was told, over there, that the Arrow's costume is a reveal.
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Re: The Flash (S1E16) -- "Rogue Time" -- 3/24/15

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I like Iris and the actress who plays her. I just don't like they made her Barry's de facto sister and then try to make a romance out of it. Feels even creepier that Joe seems to be all for it.

Maybe it would have felt less gross if Barry moved in with them when he was 16 or something rather than a little kid...I don't know.

How was it in the comics?
Comic book superstar Geoff Johns and now Flash television producer made some major revisions to Barry Allen when the character returned from the dead about a decade ago. Johns added the entire thing about Reverse Flash killing Barry's mother when he was a child.

This version of Iris doesn't resemble the comics history at all. Barry and Iris met as normal adults in the comics. This brother-sister dynamic seems to have been invented so they could more plausibly make Joe his father figure by adopting Barry after the murder.

I actually thought the entire relationship with Joe was going to be a disaster before Flash aired but he might be my favorite character on the show after Barry. Jesse Martin has been great in the role.
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Spoiler:



It is taking the combined force of the Spectre and Nabu to hold me back from checking that spoiler tag.


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