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Old 02-17-15 | 01:07 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by windom
Hopefully, Vince Gilligan will correct his mistakes and issue a 'special edition' version of Breaking Bad with added scenes that show what was going on at HHM at key points during the Breaking Bad timeline. Maybe some of those characters were on the planes that collided? Also, they can film a scene to be shown at the very end of Breaking Bad that shows the people at HHM finding out that Heisenberg has been killed and the celebration that follows. This new version of Breaking Bad would then be considered canon and the old version would no longer be available.
Yeah because that's obviously what I was saying. Again people are reading too much into what I wrote. I think what's likely to happen is at some point in Better Call Saul we may see a flash-forward to the Breaking Bad years of Saul as a cold open or something and people from his past could be acknowledged that way. It really isn't that complicated of a question I had, but apparently its way too much for certain people to wrap their heads around.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by Mike86
Yeah because that's obviously what I was saying. Again people are reading too much into what I wrote. I think what's likely to happen is at some point in Better Call Saul we may see a flash-forward to the Breaking Bad years of Saul as a cold open or something and people from his past could be acknowledged that way. It really isn't that complicated of a question I had, but apparently its way too much for certain people to wrap their heads around.
God I hope not.

Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
Old 02-17-15 | 01:39 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
God I hope not.

Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
Its not like they'd have to devote a bunch of time to doing that. The cold opens are generally under five minutes so if they did a couple just to link things together or whatever it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Plus I'm betting eventually AMC will up the order for the seasons following the first one to more than ten episodes to probably twelve or thirteen like Breaking Bad. Also it wouldn't be to give explanation to why they weren't mentioned simply to give us an idea of the fates of certain characters during the events of Breaking Bad. Seriously I don't get why that's such an out there idea.

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Old 02-17-15 | 01:55 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by bluetoast
What I liked about this episode was that Saul was actually up front with the friend (for the most part) and she actually accepted his story.

In a lot of situations where the main character has to cover for something, he would be lying his ass off while trying to do four things at once, or if he do come clean, the other person would freak out. The friend was pretty rational considering her closeness to the situation.
Same thing I've said since the first episode. They are trying to hammer home the point that this was a good guy who made some bad choices. Unlike Walt who decided to do all of his crimes, Saul so far seems to be pushed into all of his choices via outside forces. Should be interesting to see how Saul's story wraps up. If I had my guess, he will come full circle and turn himself in.
Old 02-17-15 | 01:58 PM
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That's true, even when he was in full blown Saul mode working with Walt, he still wanted to quit while they were ahead, a notion that Walt would have none of.
Old 02-17-15 | 02:11 PM
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Saul was a mix of a jester and voice of reason throughout Breaking Bad.
Old 02-17-15 | 03:29 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

"You're about to have no heart inside of your chest" was the best threat on Saul's life since "I'll send you to Belize"
Old 02-17-15 | 03:36 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
God I hope not.

Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
Season 2 is already set for 13 episodes.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Oh man, that tent scene was awesome.
Old 02-17-15 | 05:25 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

It was a simple Chicago Sunroof!
Old 02-17-15 | 05:45 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Like Marie's kleptomania?
Or Hank's minerals.
Old 02-17-15 | 05:54 PM
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Or Hank's minerals.
they're rocks ..... oh wait
Old 02-17-15 | 06:16 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by Me007gold
Or Hank's minerals.
That basically ended when Hank got well enough to go back to work because it wasn't really needed anymore. The minerals were basically just something keeping him occupied, there wasn't a larger story behind it.
Old 02-17-15 | 07:43 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Well...getting back to actually discussing the merits of the show rather than wondering why Saul wasn't on Breaking Bad constantly mentioning people from 6 years in his past...

I'm really loving this show. It just has this great vibe about it and Jimmy/Saul has proven a very interesting character to base a series around. I like how everyone underestimates him, but when his ass is on the line he pulls it together to do what needs to be done. And while he's obviously a flawed character he's got some sense of morality as seen by not letting Tuco kill the kids. It makes for some compelling television.

I died when he busted into the tent saying "Here's Johnny!" I was surprised when the credits started to roll; the episode really just flew by. I wish Netflix had just picked this up so I could watch all of the episodes in one sitting.
Old 02-17-15 | 07:51 PM
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Netflix will be putting them all up very soon after they finish airing, for the lucky bastards who don't watch but will start in a few months.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Yeah I couldn't wait that long knowing it was out there.
Old 02-17-15 | 08:23 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by xraybies
Geez talk about over thinking it. BCS wasn't planned until late in BB's existence, VG and PG had to create new characters for BCS, characters which did not exist until writing for BCS started. Thus these characters did not appear in BB.
I'm not sure this was the original point, but considering how VG and PG work, that these new characters had no part to play in BB could speak to how their stories mature in BCS. For example, Saul will not end the series riding off into marital bliss with blonde lawyer lady, or starting a McGill & McGill law practice with a freshly recovered brother, because that would have no relation to the Saul introduced in BB. There is a constraint that BB establishes on BCS that outstanding storytellers like Gilligan will not ignore. Again, not sure that was the argument but it is a valid point.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Oh, as far as the episode goes it was another big winner (though I did see the "they kidnapped themselves" twist coming early on). I like that blonde lawyer lady isn't a caricature and serves a purpose other than fleshing out the demographic. Once again the episode was shot beautifully. And thank you for being a show that gives the audience a little credit and keeps the spoon feeding to an absolute minimum.
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I think they should do a series of Webisodes in which the action continues after established BB scenes featuring Saul showing him calling his old friends and telling them about the events of BB, looking at photos of them as an interior dialogue VO of Saul's reminiscences plays etc. It would really rectify Gilligan and Co's shocking and blatant disregard for continuity.

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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

I don't know why people have such a problem with what I said. I guess it is completely out there to wonder what happens to some of the people from Saul's past. I actually never even said any of them needed roles on Breaking Bad or had to be constantly mentioned or anything. Just the fact they never were poses questions to what the future may hold for some of them. Granted yes Better Call Saul was created after Breaking Bad so that's part of it.

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I'm not sure this was the original point, but considering how VG and PG work, that these new characters had no part to play in BB could speak to how their stories mature in BCS. For example, Saul will not end the series riding off into marital bliss with blonde lawyer lady, or starting a McGill & McGill law practice with a freshly recovered brother, because that would have no relation to the Saul introduced in BB. There is a constraint that BB establishes on BCS that outstanding storytellers like Gilligan will not ignore. Again, not sure that was the argument but it is a valid point.
Finally someone who gets it. It really wasn't that complicated of a question/observation I made.

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Old 02-17-15 | 10:17 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by Mike86
I don't know why people have such a problem with what I said. I guess it is completely out there to wonder what happens to some of the people from Saul's past. I actually never even said any of them needed roles on Breaking Bad or had to be constantly mentioned or anything. Just the fact they never were poses questions to what the future may hold for some of them. Granted yes Better Call Saul was created after Breaking Bad so that's part of it.


Finally someone who gets it. It really wasn't that complicated of a question/observation I made.
If that was your only point, it is so obvious there was no point in even stating it...
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by windom
Hopefully, Vince Gilligan will correct his mistakes and issue a 'special edition' version of Breaking Bad with added scenes that show what was going on at HHM at key points during the Breaking Bad timeline. Maybe some of those characters were on the planes that collided? Also, they can film a scene to be shown at the very end of Breaking Bad that shows the people at HHM finding out that Heisenberg has been killed and the celebration that follows. This new version of Breaking Bad would then be considered canon and the old version would no longer be available.



Originally Posted by Guru Askew
I think they should do a series of Webisodes in which the action continues after established BB scenes featuring Saul showing him calling his old friends and telling them about the events of BB, looking at photos of them as an interior dialogue VO of Saul's reminiscences plays etc. It would really rectify Gilligan and Co's shocking and blatant disregard for continuity.


Anyway, I'm surprised at how likeable and sympathetic Jimmy is so far. He really seems like someone who does things with the best of intentions (even more than Walt ever did). He clearly believes in helping people.

I like that they've been changing up the little 10 sec title sequence each week.

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Old 02-17-15 | 11:05 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Like Marie's kleptomania?
I think that the original plan was to have Marie steal the Walt Whitman book from the White house, and then Hank would find it and confront Marie about where she lifted it from.

But at some point it was decided that it would be better for Hank to find at Walt's home himself.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15

Originally Posted by van der graaf
If that was your only point, it is so obvious there was no point in even stating it...
More like people took a simple post and blew it out of proportion. Also I don't see what's obvious, we don't know what will happen to characters from Better Call Saul and I was essentially just thinking out loud that I wonder what potentiality happens to some of them if an explanation isn't given on the series given the rather intricate writing style of the two shows. Really rather simple. I didn't say anything about constant references or anything like people keep going on about and essentially putting words into my post that weren't there.


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