Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Hopefully, Vince Gilligan will correct his mistakes and issue a 'special edition' version of Breaking Bad with added scenes that show what was going on at HHM at key points during the Breaking Bad timeline. Maybe some of those characters were on the planes that collided? Also, they can film a scene to be shown at the very end of Breaking Bad that shows the people at HHM finding out that Heisenberg has been killed and the celebration that follows. This new version of Breaking Bad would then be considered canon and the old version would no longer be available.
Yeah because that's obviously what I was saying. Again people are reading too much into what I wrote. I think what's likely to happen is at some point in Better Call Saul we may see a flash-forward to the Breaking Bad years of Saul as a cold open or something and people from his past could be acknowledged that way. It really isn't that complicated of a question I had, but apparently its way too much for certain people to wrap their heads around.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Yeah because that's obviously what I was saying. Again people are reading too much into what I wrote. I think what's likely to happen is at some point in Better Call Saul we may see a flash-forward to the Breaking Bad years of Saul as a cold open or something and people from his past could be acknowledged that way. It really isn't that complicated of a question I had, but apparently its way too much for certain people to wrap their heads around.Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
God I hope not.
Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
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#54
Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
What I liked about this episode was that Saul was actually up front with the friend (for the most part) and she actually accepted his story.
In a lot of situations where the main character has to cover for something, he would be lying his ass off while trying to do four things at once, or if he do come clean, the other person would freak out. The friend was pretty rational considering her closeness to the situation.
In a lot of situations where the main character has to cover for something, he would be lying his ass off while trying to do four things at once, or if he do come clean, the other person would freak out. The friend was pretty rational considering her closeness to the situation.
#55
Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
That's true, even when he was in full blown Saul mode working with Walt, he still wanted to quit while they were ahead, a notion that Walt would have none of.
#56
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Saul was a mix of a jester and voice of reason throughout Breaking Bad.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
"You're about to have no heart inside of your chest" was the best threat on Saul's life since "I'll send you to Belize"
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
God I hope not.
Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
Assuming 10 episode seasons and this show lasting 4-5 seasons, I'd like every scene on BCS to be meaningful. Don't waste valuable screen time needlessly coming up with an explanation for why a character in a prequel show wasn't mentioned in the original.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
It was a simple Chicago Sunroof!
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Well...getting back to actually discussing the merits of the show rather than wondering why Saul wasn't on Breaking Bad constantly mentioning people from 6 years in his past...
I'm really loving this show. It just has this great vibe about it and Jimmy/Saul has proven a very interesting character to base a series around. I like how everyone underestimates him, but when his ass is on the line he pulls it together to do what needs to be done. And while he's obviously a flawed character he's got some sense of morality as seen by not letting Tuco kill the kids. It makes for some compelling television.
I died when he busted into the tent saying "Here's Johnny!" I was surprised when the credits started to roll; the episode really just flew by. I wish Netflix had just picked this up so I could watch all of the episodes in one sitting.
I'm really loving this show. It just has this great vibe about it and Jimmy/Saul has proven a very interesting character to base a series around. I like how everyone underestimates him, but when his ass is on the line he pulls it together to do what needs to be done. And while he's obviously a flawed character he's got some sense of morality as seen by not letting Tuco kill the kids. It makes for some compelling television.
I died when he busted into the tent saying "Here's Johnny!" I was surprised when the credits started to roll; the episode really just flew by. I wish Netflix had just picked this up so I could watch all of the episodes in one sitting.
#65
Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Netflix will be putting them all up very soon after they finish airing, for the lucky bastards who don't watch but will start in a few months.
#67
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
I'm not sure this was the original point, but considering how VG and PG work, that these new characters had no part to play in BB could speak to how their stories mature in BCS. For example, Saul will not end the series riding off into marital bliss with blonde lawyer lady, or starting a McGill & McGill law practice with a freshly recovered brother, because that would have no relation to the Saul introduced in BB. There is a constraint that BB establishes on BCS that outstanding storytellers like Gilligan will not ignore. Again, not sure that was the argument but it is a valid point.
#68
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Oh, as far as the episode goes it was another big winner (though I did see the "they kidnapped themselves" twist coming early on). I like that blonde lawyer lady isn't a caricature and serves a purpose other than fleshing out the demographic. Once again the episode was shot beautifully. And thank you for being a show that gives the audience a little credit and keeps the spoon feeding to an absolute minimum.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
I think they should do a series of Webisodes in which the action continues after established BB scenes featuring Saul showing him calling his old friends and telling them about the events of BB, looking at photos of them as an interior dialogue VO of Saul's reminiscences plays etc. It would really rectify Gilligan and Co's shocking and blatant disregard for continuity.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
I don't know why people have such a problem with what I said. I guess it is completely out there to wonder what happens to some of the people from Saul's past. I actually never even said any of them needed roles on Breaking Bad or had to be constantly mentioned or anything. Just the fact they never were poses questions to what the future may hold for some of them. Granted yes Better Call Saul was created after Breaking Bad so that's part of it.
Finally someone who gets it. It really wasn't that complicated of a question/observation I made.
I'm not sure this was the original point, but considering how VG and PG work, that these new characters had no part to play in BB could speak to how their stories mature in BCS. For example, Saul will not end the series riding off into marital bliss with blonde lawyer lady, or starting a McGill & McGill law practice with a freshly recovered brother, because that would have no relation to the Saul introduced in BB. There is a constraint that BB establishes on BCS that outstanding storytellers like Gilligan will not ignore. Again, not sure that was the argument but it is a valid point.
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
I don't know why people have such a problem with what I said. I guess it is completely out there to wonder what happens to some of the people from Saul's past. I actually never even said any of them needed roles on Breaking Bad or had to be constantly mentioned or anything. Just the fact they never were poses questions to what the future may hold for some of them. Granted yes Better Call Saul was created after Breaking Bad so that's part of it.
Finally someone who gets it. It really wasn't that complicated of a question/observation I made.
Finally someone who gets it. It really wasn't that complicated of a question/observation I made.
#73
Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
Hopefully, Vince Gilligan will correct his mistakes and issue a 'special edition' version of Breaking Bad with added scenes that show what was going on at HHM at key points during the Breaking Bad timeline. Maybe some of those characters were on the planes that collided? Also, they can film a scene to be shown at the very end of Breaking Bad that shows the people at HHM finding out that Heisenberg has been killed and the celebration that follows. This new version of Breaking Bad would then be considered canon and the old version would no longer be available.

I think they should do a series of Webisodes in which the action continues after established BB scenes featuring Saul showing him calling his old friends and telling them about the events of BB, looking at photos of them as an interior dialogue VO of Saul's reminiscences plays etc. It would really rectify Gilligan and Co's shocking and blatant disregard for continuity.

Anyway, I'm surprised at how likeable and sympathetic Jimmy is so far. He really seems like someone who does things with the best of intentions (even more than Walt ever did). He clearly believes in helping people.
I like that they've been changing up the little 10 sec title sequence each week.
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#74
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
I think that the original plan was to have Marie steal the Walt Whitman book from the White house, and then Hank would find it and confront Marie about where she lifted it from.
But at some point it was decided that it would be better for Hank to find at Walt's home himself.
But at some point it was decided that it would be better for Hank to find at Walt's home himself.
#75
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Re: Better Call Saul (S1E03) -- "Nacho" -- 2/16/15
More like people took a simple post and blew it out of proportion. Also I don't see what's obvious, we don't know what will happen to characters from Better Call Saul and I was essentially just thinking out loud that I wonder what potentiality happens to some of them if an explanation isn't given on the series given the rather intricate writing style of the two shows. Really rather simple. I didn't say anything about constant references or anything like people keep going on about and essentially putting words into my post that weren't there.



