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dex14 02-03-15 08:27 AM
The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
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LOVE IS IN THE AIR - Caitlin (Danielle Panabaker) decides that she and Barry (Grant Gustin) need to move on from Ronnie (guest star Robbie Amell) and Iris (Candice Patton) and find new loves so she takes him for a night out at the local karaoke bar. Caitlin doesn't have any luck making a love connection but Barry meets Linda Park (guest star Malese Jow), a sports reporter for the Central City Picture News, and asks her out on a date. When Barry tells Iris he has a date, Iris is surprised by her reaction. Meanwhile, Cisco (Carlos Ramon) considers Hartley's (guest star Andy Mientus) dangerous offer and the team searches for Shawna (guest star Britne Oldford), a meta-human with teleportation powers, who just busted her boyfriend Clay (guest star Micah Parker) out of Iron Heights. When Henry (guest star John Wesley Shipps) snoops around in an attempt to help Joe (Jesse L. Martin) and Barry solve the crime, he ends up in the infirmary after getting roughed up by inmates. Rob Hardy directed the episode written by Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing (#112). Original airdate 2/3/2015.

Deftones 02-03-15 01:04 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Spoilers about changes in the show:

Spoiler:
[QUOTE]
The CW's hit series "The Flash" is slated to introduce a time travel element in the fifteenth episode of the season. Ahead of that, executive producer Andrew Kreisberg tells Entertainment Weekly that this new power will have consequences both good and bad for the characters:

"There's an episode coming up where there is inadvertent connection to the Speed Force that results in probably our funniest hour as well as our darkest hour as the dangers of time travel come to light. It's a mashup between Back to The Future and Terminator-the good version of time travel and the bad version of time travel."

The show's star Grant Gustin says the episode is also influenced by the 1993 comedy "Groundhog Day" which will see Barry accidentally traveling at first, and then coming to realise the power that comes with what he's doing:

"It's a complete accident the first time [he time travels]. It's really confusing because now we're playing with timelines and we're having to shoot things a couple different ways. It's like a Groundhog Day-type element. It's really funny and really exciting.

He's not handling it incredibly well. It's freaking him out a little bit. He realizes, 'Holy shit, this an opportunity to change things with my family's past.' He doesn't know yet to maybe not do that, but that's where Barry's at when he realizes what he's just learned that he can do, that he can maybe save his mom."

Kreisberg also adds that: "After that episode, things are never going to be the same on The Flash." No air date has been set for the time travel episode yet.

Kdogg 02-03-15 10:23 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Is it weird that they have Linda Park as a love interest for Barry? They couldn't have named her something else.

Not a bad episode. A lot of cute moments but it seems the main purpose was to lay more backstory for future episodes (Grood, Firestorm, Piped Piper, Barry's love square)

Draven 02-03-15 10:32 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Fun seeing Grant Gustin channel his Glee powers for the karaoke number.

Peek-a-boo was a neat character to see but she also suffers from Flash's terribly named rogues gallery.

Also cool that Cisco has a little bit of fighting ability - not something that I expected to see. Of course, he's still a fuck-up and let out the Pied Piper for no good reason, but hey...one less mouth to feed in their prison I suppose.

And I guess we'll see how Grodd is in full light. It wasn't a bad appearance tonight but I am worried that he's going to come across really cheesy on a TV show budget.

mrhan 02-03-15 10:41 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Kdogg (Post 12385417)
Is it weird that they have Linda Park as a love interest for Barry?
I was thinking the same thing. Sort of creepy knowing Flash's history.

PhantomStranger 02-04-15 12:38 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Even when Wally is added to the show, presumably he'll be in his teen years. Unless this show is on for 12 years or something, I don't think we'll have enough time in which Wally would be old enough to seriously consider marriage. So the Linda Park character doesn't bother me that much. This is just the much older sister of that Linda Park. I should get a no-prize.

I think they dragged this Firestorm thing out too long. It's not like his addition was a big secret, almost everyone knew he was coming. It will feel anti-climatic when he does appear as himself.

Jackskeleton 02-04-15 01:43 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
As a Wally Fanboy, I disliked the Linda Park thing.

As a Flash fanboy, that end scene had me marking out.

RocShemp 02-04-15 01:45 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12385491)
I should get a no-prize.
I think you meant to ask for a Baldie Award. ;)

PhantomStranger 02-04-15 02:25 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Were they implying that Caitlin was falling for Barry?

RocShemp 02-04-15 04:43 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12385962)
Were they implying that Caitlin was falling for Barry?
That's what I thought.

Slightly off topic, this show had me wondering whatever happened to Danielle Panabaker's sister, Kay. Is it true that she retired from acting to pursue a career as a zoologist?

Spiderbite 02-04-15 08:56 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
I find it odd that they have basically made Iris into a carbon copy of Lois Lane.

hdnmickey 02-04-15 09:59 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Another episode with multiple scenes in their special prison with nothing explaining how it supposedly works logistically. Really try to enjoy the show, but there is just no getting around how badly that was laid out. Since they have improved on the here one fight, gone in the next, use of his powers the prison is the only element that takes away from their story.

Baron Of Hell 02-04-15 10:13 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
The prisoner's needs are taken care for by the computer AI. When needed a bed, toilet, shower or whatever comes out of the walls. Once the object is not needed it goes back into the wall to be cleaned by machines. Wells being from the future knew a prison would be needed so he made sure he had one ready. I'm not sure why he made the prison inside his energy thingy but why not kill two birds with one stone. Also before you ask Wells did get permission from the government to housed these bad guys. This prison is no different than the hundreds of private prisons where we send people we never want to hear from again. You might think it is illegal but terrorist have no rights and besides they will get their day in court some day. They might have to wait 40 or 50 years but they will get their day in court.

PhantomStranger 02-04-15 10:13 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 12386411)
Another episode with multiple scenes in their special prison with nothing explaining how it supposedly works logistically. Really try to enjoy the show, but there is just no getting around how badly that was laid out. Since they have improved on the here one fight, gone in the next, use of his powers the prison is the only element that takes away from their story.
I don't think we will see a change in the prison design until next season. They are stuck with that set for at least season one.

will travel 02-05-15 01:35 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
I thought Peek-A-Boo 1st comic book appearance in FLASH #180 2nd series was rather BLAH.
But I enjoyed her on the TV series.

Ending scene was a Killer.

Kal-El 02-05-15 10:34 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Sorry, not really familiar with the significance of Linda Park. Can someone enlighten me? In spoilers if needed.

majorjoe23 02-05-15 10:56 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Kal-El (Post 12386733)
Sorry, not really familiar with the significance of Linda Park. Can someone enlighten me? In spoilers if needed.
She was the girlfriend/wife of Wally West in the comics.

Deftones 02-05-15 10:57 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 12386411)
Another episode with multiple scenes in their special prison with nothing explaining how it supposedly works logistically. Really try to enjoy the show, but there is just no getting around how badly that was laid out. Since they have improved on the here one fight, gone in the next, use of his powers the prison is the only element that takes away from their story.
it's a show about a guy who can run 600+ MPH and had a character that could teleport, and we are hung up on if there is a shitter in the special prison? really?

Draven 02-05-15 11:05 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 12386758)
it's a show about a guy who can run 600+ MPH and had a character that could teleport, and we are hung up on if there is a shitter in the special prison? really?
If Caitlin suddenly started flying, would you expect an explanation? After all, it's a show about a guy who can run 600+ MPH.

They established this bizarre logistical nightmare and brushed it off like it was no big deal. They are now running the equivalent of Iron Heights Prison with 3 people, none of whom have any experience dealing with prisoners. That's a really strange thing to not explain in any way.

Deftones 02-05-15 11:10 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Draven (Post 12386765)
If Caitlin suddenly started flying, would you expect an explanation? After all, it's a show about a guy who can run 600+ MPH.

They established this bizarre logistical nightmare and brushed it off like it was no big deal. They are now running the equivalent of Iron Heights Prison with 3 people, none of whom have any experience dealing with prisoners. That's a really strange thing to not explain in any way.
sure, i'd expect an explanation if she could start flying because that would be integral to the story and her character. whether or not if they have a sink or a crapper in their prison is irrelevant to the plot of the show.

anomynous 02-05-15 11:28 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
At least it's not the level of not really adressing how a certain character in another in-universe show is alive

Draven 02-05-15 01:08 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 12386774)
sure, i'd expect an explanation if she could start flying because that would be integral to the story and her character. whether or not if they have a sink or a crapper in their prison is irrelevant to the plot of the show.
Ok, what if this prison was in an alternate dimension and they had to step through a mystical portal to get there? That wouldn't necessarily be integral to the story but you'd expect someone to address it, right?

The easier thing to do would be to have Wells donate money to the city to build out Iron Heights as the superprison it's actually supposed to be. Sticking every evil metahuman they capture in their basement and forgetting about them until the plot dictates otherwise is pretty lazy.

Kdogg 02-05-15 02:26 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 12386756)
She was the girlfriend/wife of Wally West in the comics.
...who is the nephew of Iris and the next Flash after Barry.

Red Dog 02-05-15 04:33 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 12386758)
it's a show about a guy who can run 600+ MPH and had a character that could teleport, and we are hung up on if there is a shitter in the special prison? really?
Yeah, I must admit I briefly wondered about it too, but it's one of those things you just put aside, given the universe/genre we're talking about.

hdnmickey 02-05-15 05:40 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Draven (Post 12386906)
The easier thing to do would be to have Wells donate money to the city to build out Iron Heights as the superprison it's actually supposed to be. Sticking every evil metahuman they capture in their basement and forgetting about them until the plot dictates otherwise is pretty lazy.
Lazy is too kind. They have taken multiple steps to explain powers, and make everything else pretty grounded in reality. To just sluff off the prison logistics is just bad show running. We all can still enjoy the whole, but there is no getting around the faults (again, I admit they have done a better job with the fights after the first few hiccups in logic, but those still happen as well).

Jason 02-05-15 05:52 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 12387248)
Lazy is too kind. They have taken multiple steps to explain powers, and make everything else pretty grounded in reality. To just sluff off the prison logistics is just bad show running. We all can still enjoy the whole, but there is no getting around the faults (again, I admit they have done a better job with the fights after the first few hiccups in logic, but those still happen as well).
I'm more concerned about the ethics of four civilians running a private prison with no due process and indefinite solitary confinement. The cop who's in on all this doesn't seem to mind at all. Granted, Ironwood, the "I can't believe it's a prison" of the DOC, could hardly hold them, but this seems like something that will come back to haunt them in many ways.

Red Dog 02-05-15 05:54 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Like a cop would care. :lol:

Deftones 02-05-15 05:57 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 12387248)
Lazy is too kind. They have taken multiple steps to explain powers, and make everything else pretty grounded in reality. To just sluff off the prison logistics is just bad show running. We all can still enjoy the whole, but there is no getting around the faults (again, I admit they have done a better job with the fights after the first few hiccups in logic, but those still happen as well).
prison logistics? rotfl

you are seriously trolling us, aren't you? you can't be serious, can you?

hdnmickey 02-05-15 07:01 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Jason (Post 12387260)
I'm more concerned about the ethics of four civilians running a private prison with no due process and indefinite solitary confinement.
I get where you're coming from, but I have to agree with the "it's a comic show" people on that one. Seems pretty routine for people in comics to make up their own rules when it comes to due process. So I get it, but I do just accept that one.

But not even touching on how the prisoners could stay alive while our heroes play judge and jury? Nope, going to have to try harder show runners. :D

PhantomStranger 02-05-15 09:33 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Wells looks loaded and his lab is apparently a gigantic facility with multiple levels. I imagine it has other staff that is looking after the prisoners.

RocShemp 02-05-15 11:22 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
On the subject of S.T.A.R. Labs, they still haven't had any work done to remodel the exterior of the building? One of the establishing shots showed chunks of the building are still broken.

Original Desmond 02-07-15 09:46 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Never thought i'd say this but i think this show is cycling through the gallery of villians way too quickly. Completely opposite problem to Agent Carter

We are now getting multiple villians per episode

they don't need to show ever character in the Flash DC universe in the first season !

and i really don't like this every villian was created in the reactor explosion stuff

I would prefer different origins for some of the villians

PhantomStranger 02-08-15 12:19 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by Original Desmond (Post 12389170)
Never thought i'd say this but i think this show is cycling through the gallery of villians way too quickly. Completely opposite problem to Agent Carter

We are now getting multiple villians per episode

they don't need to show ever character in the Flash DC universe in the first season !

and i really don't like this every villian was created in the reactor explosion stuff

I would prefer different origins for some of the villians
I agree for the most part. I wish we got a few villains tied to alternative origins, though television has shown a tendency in the past to tie everything to a common origin. Smallville rarely if ever went beyond meteor rock as an explanation for all the characters with super powers.

They need to start occasionally showing villains escaping, the Flash can't imprison every single villain he defeats.

dex14 02-09-15 12:24 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
For all those TWD Beth fans out there... Emily Kinney will be on The Flash as the Bug Eyed Bandit

http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/40...ug-eyed-bandit

PhantomStranger 02-09-15 01:47 PM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 12390446)
For all those TWD Beth fans out there... Emily Kinney will be on The Flash as the Bug Eyed Bandit

http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/40...ug-eyed-bandit
The CW and producers are spending money like crazy now that the Flash is a big hit.

Eric F 02-09-15 10:25 PM
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Grodd is a dick.:lol:

mwbmis 02-16-15 01:48 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12385962)
Were they implying that Caitlin was falling for Barry?
Given the relative easy chemistry between Panabaker and Gustin (in contrast to the chemistry between he and Patton), I thought this was the obvious way to go months ago. Then I googled Caitlin Snow.

RocShemp 02-16-15 06:05 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 12396653)
Then I googled Caitlin Snow.
Given they've essentially inverted Firestorm, I wonder if/how they will handle
Spoiler:
Killer Frost.
And I wonder if the Barry's
Spoiler:
time travel shenanigans will have a hand in her turning evil.

JuryDuty 02-16-15 09:38 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Just watched this episode. Did anyone else notice the scenes in the previews for this episode never took place? They showed Barry and the girl from the bar making out on a couch, and another scene with her upset at him. They never even went there.

Oh, and Barry has a good voice. :)

DJariya 02-16-15 11:02 AM
Re: The Flash (S1E12) - "Crazy for You" - 2/3/15
 
Originally Posted by JuryDuty (Post 12396815)
Just watched this episode. Did anyone else notice the scenes in the previews for this episode never took place? They showed Barry and the girl from the bar making out on a couch, and another scene with her upset at him. They never even went there.

Oh, and Barry has a good voice. :)
You're 2 weeks behind. Barry and Linda hook up in episode 13.


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