Actor Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Children
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I don't really understand some of the arguments being made here.
Yes, what he did was worse, but how can it NOT be a crime as well to know that someone is sexual molesting a child (or children) and not reporting for whatever reason...personal gain, helping some cover something up, etc?
It's beyond horrific to think of someone not having a duty to report knowledge of sexual abuse like that and it's not just a moral thing either. It sure seems like it should be criminal to just sit on that knowledge.
Yes, what he did was worse, but how can it NOT be a crime as well to know that someone is sexual molesting a child (or children) and not reporting for whatever reason...personal gain, helping some cover something up, etc?
It's beyond horrific to think of someone not having a duty to report knowledge of sexual abuse like that and it's not just a moral thing either. It sure seems like it should be criminal to just sit on that knowledge.
If I watch my neighbor touch a kid through his window, shrug, and say it isn't my place, I am probably not going to ever be in criminal trouble. If it's my husband (yay same sex marriage being legal so we'll go with that), I would be much more worried about me being complicit in his crime.
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There are rwo additional qualifications to majorjoe's statment.
1. Collins is a "low degree" pedophile. There are ultra sick pedophile's who have sex with children, and then there are pedophile's who put the hands of children onto their genitals.
2. His wife held onto the tape, and used it to extort money. She didn't just fail to report it, she failed to report it and used it for monetary gain.
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This stuff actually makes sense in your head when you think it? What Collins did is beyond the moral event horizon. That there are worse pedophiles out there doesn't change the fact that he's in the top 1% of evil here. Even if Faye Grant did exactly what you say -- which is contrary to the reports I've read -- she's nowhere near close to Collins.
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majorjoe's statment is the closest to what I was trying to say.
There are rwo additional qualifications to majorjoe's statment.
1. Collins is a "low degree" pedophile. There are ultra sick pedophile's who have sex with children, and then there are pedophile's who put the hands of children onto their genitals.
2. His wife held onto the tape, and used it to extort money. She didn't just fail to report it, she failed to report it and used it for monetary gain.
There are rwo additional qualifications to majorjoe's statment.
1. Collins is a "low degree" pedophile. There are ultra sick pedophile's who have sex with children, and then there are pedophile's who put the hands of children onto their genitals.
2. His wife held onto the tape, and used it to extort money. She didn't just fail to report it, she failed to report it and used it for monetary gain.
i don't think i would like my kid to be babysat by a "low degree" paedo.
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majorjoe's statment is the closest to what I was trying to say.
There are rwo additional qualifications to majorjoe's statment.
1. Collins is a "low degree" pedophile. There are ultra sick pedophile's who have sex with children, and then there are pedophile's who put the hands of children onto their genitals.
2. His wife held onto the tape, and used it to extort money. She didn't just fail to report it, she failed to report it and used it for monetary gain.
There are rwo additional qualifications to majorjoe's statment.
1. Collins is a "low degree" pedophile. There are ultra sick pedophile's who have sex with children, and then there are pedophile's who put the hands of children onto their genitals.
2. His wife held onto the tape, and used it to extort money. She didn't just fail to report it, she failed to report it and used it for monetary gain.
wow.
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So, Collins really isn't that bad of a guy because he's only a "low degree pedophile" who's only real crime is being attracted to "really young girls," but Faye Grant is worse than Stephen Collins because she failed to report what a horrible monster Collins is?
wow.
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wow.
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ETA: Also we apparently have to ask ourselves if she did actually report this at divorce which makes her terrible in one way or if she continued to keep the secret which makes her terrible in quite another, since she now denies releasing the recording.
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I tend to consider this situation to be like trying to decide if John Wayne Gacy or Jeffrey Dahmer was worse (they're both horrible so why the fuck does it matter?), but I do think you are missing a lot of why Grant was so terrible -- she was content for love and/or money reasons to stay with Collins and cover this up until it was time for divorce. That's pretty twisted.
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I tend to consider this situation to be like trying to decide if John Wayne Gacy or Jeffrey Dahmer was worse (they're both horrible so why the fuck does it matter?), but I do think you are missing a lot of why Grant was so terrible -- she was content for love and/or money reasons to stay with Collins and cover this up until it was time for divorce. That's pretty twisted.
ETA: Also we apparently have to ask ourselves if she did actually report this at divorce which makes her terrible in one way or if she continued to keep the secret which makes her terrible in quite another, since she now denies releasing the recording.
ETA: Also we apparently have to ask ourselves if she did actually report this at divorce which makes her terrible in one way or if she continued to keep the secret which makes her terrible in quite another, since she now denies releasing the recording.
I think a more reasonable comparison would be Jerry Sandusky and Joe Paterno. Jerry Sandusky raped kids. Joe Paterno in his own words "didn't do enough" to stop it.
Joe Paterno is no angel.
Jerry Sandusky is much worse. I don't even see how it's debatable.
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Did he expose himself to these girls or have sex with them? Because there's a big difference, if his only crime is being naked in the presence of underage girls than give him a slap on the wrist and make him go to counseling. If he had actual sex with them then lock him up.
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Is that you John Grisham?
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Well, good for him.
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#140
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I'd imagine he's ever so grateful for Bill Cosby taking the heat off of him and making him look like an OK dude in comparison.
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I'm sure he's freely admitting it because the statute of limitations is long gone on these crimes.
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His career and reputation is already ruined. He can't go out without being recognized as a scumbag child molester. He might as well pack his bags and leave the U.S. for some small secluded island.
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Or he could merge with V'ger and the bald chick and disappear into a ball of light.
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Re: Seventh Heaven reruns, they can just give the footage to George Lucas to tinker with. He's already got a digital replacement for Collins lined up:
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Holy Crap this is the dude from Tales of the Gold Monkey. I really liked that show.
I also saw him play the dad of that moron whose name I cant remember, on the Office
I also saw him play the dad of that moron whose name I cant remember, on the Office
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I just watched All the President's Men for the first time and was surprised to see his name in the credits. Had to go back to the scene and even then I barely recognized him (I also did not recognize Meredith Baxter as his wife the first time through, although that was a lot more obvious once I knew)
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