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mikehunt 05-07-14 07:26 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
loved when the guy opened the suitcase and Coulson went all nostalgic

ATX 05-07-14 09:39 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
when rayna started taking about skye and how "monsters" killed everybody looking for their baby, she literally meant monsters you seen wards face and wonder what he was thinking

speaking of reyna it was funny when garret made that comment about her because you watch her and i always wonder are those her natural "do me" eyes and her maneurisms or is it acting

Draven 05-07-14 10:26 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by TGM (Post 12100143)
I can't believe this is a debate. Garrett shot the dog. It's rather obvious...

Do you think there is any way that could have been made clearer?

PhantomStranger 05-07-14 10:44 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
It wasn't brain-dead obvious who shot the dog, though I think the audience was supposed to be misled into believing Ward did it when it was really Garrett. Ward is an evil guy, he just has a soft spot. He's still evil.

I'm not sure how they can bring Ward back on the team after his actions. It really wouldn't make much sense, no matter how much backstory they reveal on him.

majorjoe23 05-07-14 11:53 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12100351)
It wasn't brain-dead obvious who shot the dog, though I think the audience was supposed to be misled into believing Ward did it when it was really Garrett. Ward is an evil guy, he just has a soft spot. He's still evil.

I'm not sure how they can bring Ward back on the team after his actions. It really wouldn't make much sense, no matter how much backstory they reveal on him.

Ward dies in an act of self sacrifice. They use TAHITI to revive him, erasing his memories of betraying the team. He's back, but no one trusts him.

johnnysd 05-08-14 02:23 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by Xiroteus (Post 12099475)
Not sure why they would bother now. He killed a few SHIELD agents, shot them right in the face at times. He may like be thrilled with some of what he is doing yet he's still doing it. The best he could do is die for a good cause and even that may be odd as why do what he is doing now just to try and stop it.

He akso killed several regular police agents. If theytry to redeem him and everyone is OK with him again that will be uber lame. Whedon loves redeemed bad guys so they probably reporgram him without the evil memories or Skye does something with whatever power she has

johnnysd 05-08-14 02:26 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by ATX (Post 12100316)
when rayna started taking about skye and how "monsters" killed everybody looking for their baby, she literally meant monsters you seen wards face and wonder what he was thinking

speaking of reyna it was funny when garret made that comment about her because you watch her and i always wonder are those her natural "do me" eyes and her maneurisms or is it acting

she's pretty but her movements and looks make her ridiculously sexy

Giantrobo 05-08-14 02:35 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
Raina is delicious.....

Navinabob 05-08-14 12:38 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
Killing the twins won't be successful. "Was it his error?", or "Did he give them a way out on purpose?" will be the question brought up and debated by the team. Then we, the viewers, will get the info that he never killed Buddy. Basically setting up the idea that he is evil... but he also has a "soft spot".

Giantrobo 05-08-14 01:38 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
I don't like this Evil with a soft spot shit.

SteelWill 05-08-14 02:27 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
It's the new vampire with a soul.

https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019...g0kio1_500.gif

PhantomStranger 05-08-14 03:01 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12100432)
He akso killed several regular police agents. If theytry to redeem him and everyone is OK with him again that will be uber lame. Whedon loves redeemed bad guys so they probably reporgram him without the evil memories or Skye does something with whatever power she has

That's an angle I hadn't thought of with Skye's unrevealed powers. They keep hinting she has amazing power but we've seen nothing but fancy hacking skills. Her feelings for Ward drive her to "reprogram" his mind.

Lord Zarak 05-08-14 03:16 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
To echo what others have said, I do not want to see a redemption of Ward. He's killed way too many for that. The highest note he can possibly go out on is to sacrifice himself to take out Garret. He should not be welcomed back to the team, even if mind-wiped. Which, I don't see how that is possible. TAHITI was destroyed earlier in the season.

Jcheckel 05-08-14 09:50 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
Looks like it was picked up along with the Agent Carter show as well. Haven't sen how they're going to do it yet, but hopefully they do a split season with Agent Carter running in the winter so we have less off weeks to kill momentum.

DJariya 05-08-14 10:44 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
Renewed for a second season. Also ABC picked up Agent Carter.

Eric F 05-09-14 01:11 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12101511)
Renewed for a second season. Also ABC picked up Agent Carter.

Well this is interesting. Agent Carter is about the founding of SHIELD, and as we now know Hydra was part of SHIELD from the beginning. I wonder if they'll deal with that in the show?

Rocketdog2000 05-09-14 01:53 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 12100792)
Killing the twins won't be successful. "Was it his error?", or "Did he give them a way out on purpose?" will be the question brought up and debated by the team. Then we, the viewers, will get the info that he never killed Buddy. Basically setting up the idea that he is evil... but he also has a "soft spot".

Who the hell are the twins you speak of? Do you mean Fitz and Simmons? They aren't even related, let alone twins. Do you even watch this show, or are you just being facetious?

Orbi-Wan Techno 05-09-14 04:57 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 12101581)
Well this is interesting. Agent Carter is about the founding of SHIELD, and as we now know Hydra was part of SHIELD from the beginning. I wonder if they'll deal with that in the show?

It's like the Star Wars prequel series. We know the Empire will eventually come into power, so we get to watch all the little threads, hints and Easter eggs come together.

SteelWill 05-09-14 05:55 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by N2DVD (Post 12101611)
It's like the Star Wars prequel series.

Man I hope it's not like those.

Lord Zarak 05-09-14 07:54 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
I watched the episode again and made some observations:

While it can be assumed that Garrett shot the dog, it is very ambiguous. Nothing from that scene is solid, even who was at the other end of the scope. Heck, there wasn't even a sound effect to imply a bullet was fired. Just a cut to Ward dumping Fitz and Simmons.

Raina's lines were very carefully orchestrated to make be believe she's talking about Inhumans. The whole "inside" remark was very clear. That being said, I think that the GH alien is not an alien, rather another Inhuman. Its DNA can heal other Inhumans without adverse effects (Skye), but cannot safely heal humans.

So Fitz and Simmons were dumped in an air-tight box into the ocean. We already established that Coulson's team was three hours away (and that was before the army of Deathloks), so even with the homing beacon Fitz has, I'm not sure how they get out of this one.

Hailey G 05-09-14 09:26 AM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
^So Skye has to be exposed to the
Spoiler:
Terrigen Mists
to unlock her power? :)

PhantomStranger 05-09-14 01:44 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni (Post 12101759)
^So Skye has to be exposed to the
Spoiler:
Terrigen Mists
to unlock her power? :)

That is a huge spoiler that should probably be covered from naive eyes. It's almost certainly where the story is headed.

slop101 05-09-14 02:42 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 12101581)
Well this is interesting. Agent Carter is about the founding of SHIELD, and as we now know Hydra was part of SHIELD from the beginning. I wonder if they'll deal with that in the show?

Not really. It would take a good decade or two, after getting the Nazi scientists and stuff for Hydra to really get any sort of foothold in SHIELD. In the meantime, we can have Carter staving them off at first.

BGPu 05-09-14 02:55 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 12101581)
Well this is interesting. Agent Carter is about the founding of SHIELD, and as we now know Hydra was part of SHIELD from the beginning. I wonder if they'll deal with that in the show?

When May's mother came and picked her up a couple episodes back, I wondered if she's going to be tied to Sharon Carter somehow since she seemed to have a knowledge of how SHIELD works.

Eric F 05-09-14 03:05 PM

Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
 
Either way, we get to see more of Hayley Atwell and that's fine by me.:wub:


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