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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Damn Fitz gots some big balls. Awesome. Been loving this kid these past few episodes.
Great twist with Garret. Best episode of the series. |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Loved Coulson geeking out over the old Howling Commando tech. The large file transfer line was classic.
Ward's action at the end was very vague. Did he intend to terminate Fitz and Simmons or did he know they would survive and intentionally save them? |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
I am thinking that it was meant to show that Ward is an ass. However, they were vague with both that and whether or not he killed the dog. Though I doubt he would have fired in the air to scare it off then pick up a rifle with a scope and aim it for no reason.
If he is truly a bad guy, I like it that way better than redemption. Mainly because the actor isn't that great and I don't want to see him trying to do any conflicted stuff that requires a range. :) |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
"speak up, son, I'm not a mind-reader." rotfl
May and Coulson as nerds was funny. :up: |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by Lord Zarak
(Post 12099215)
Loved Coulson geeking out over the old Howling Commando tech. The large file transfer line was classic.
Ward's action at the end was very vague. Did he intend to terminate Fitz and Simmons or did he know they would survive and intentionally save them? |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
But Ward is still a killer, he just can't pull the trigger on those he's attached himself to. Not sure how you can redeem yourself from killing SHIELD agents.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by devilshalo
(Post 12099472)
But Ward is still a killer, he just can't pull the trigger on those he's attached himself to. Not sure how you can redeem yourself from killing SHIELD agents.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
:thumbsup: Liked May and Coulson going undercover.
I see they were using this episode to try to give some back story on Ward and how he became Hydra along with adding some sympathy factor for him. I hope they keep him the way he is as a cold blooded Hydra agent as opposed to fighting his "Good" and "Evil" sides. The stuff with Garrett and that device which was apparently keeping him alive was really weird. |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Cool reveal about Garrett, didn't expect that at all. It will be interesting to see what that drug does to him.
I'm glad the episode wasn't all about Ward like the preview seemed to indicate, but the ending confused me a little as well. Seemed like he let the dog run off, but then you see the scope. It would be neat if this show had the balls to kill off a major character from the season, but i'm doubtful it will happen, even if it's Ward. |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Ming-Na looks even younger when nerded up.
Skye's parents were monsters? Can one hope for a Fin Fang Foom appearance? -pray- |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Garrett was obviously watching Ward and the dog, and when Ward didn't kill the dog Garrett took it upon himself to do it.
They did a good job NOT showing Fitz and the other chick in the previews for the next episode, but I still doubt they are dead, and I feel Ward knew they'd survive the drop into the ocean. |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
I knew Garret's ultimate plan for Buddy as soon as he left him with Ward and just spent the whole episode dreading it. I'm going to believe Garret missed the shot though.
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Originally Posted by SteelWill
(Post 12099668)
I knew Garret's ultimate plan for Buddy as soon as he left him with Ward and just spent the whole episode dreading it. I'm going to believe Garret missed the shot though.
And there's frigging Star Wars in the preview for the next show. It's chasing me. |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
(Post 12099676)
I thought the implication was that he initially refused to do it, then changed his mind and killed the dog later?
The "file transfer" was perfect. When they put the files back after hearing the guards, I was thinking "why aren't they taking those with them" - then they shove the whole cabinet out the window :lol: Perfect. |
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Garret made a comment that Ward hadn't followed all his orders before the flashback and I assume that's what he was referring to.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by SteelWill
(Post 12099759)
Garret made a comment that Ward hadn't followed all his orders before the flashback and I assume that's what he was referring to.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
I guess that whole sequence depends on how you view the flashbacks. If it's from Ward's point of view, then he would be the one looking at the dog through the scope. I viewed it as an objective point of view and that Ward let the dog go and Garrett may or may not have killed the dog. Either way makes sense and the overall point was that Ward has a weakness.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by Draven
(Post 12099931)
Maybe. Again, they could have been clearer.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by SteelWill
(Post 12099958)
If they meant to take Ward from good soldier for a bad side to outright terrible human being I think they would have.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by Draven
(Post 12100115)
Honestly, I was hoping they would commit to Ward really being a bad guy. So when he didn't shoot Buddy, I thought "ah well, I figured they wouldn't go there." But then they tacked on the sniper scope view, so I thought maybe they did commit. They should have showed who was on the scope to make it 100% clear.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by TomOpus
(Post 12100123)
I wouldn't be surprised if they do show who the sniper is during the finale. Either to drive home a point or to completely surprise viewers when it's neither Ward nor Garrett.
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
I can't believe this is a debate. Garrett shot the dog. It's rather obvious...
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by dalbowski
(Post 12100133)
why would someone else shoot the dog? It knew too much?
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by TGM
(Post 12100143)
I can't believe this is a debate. Garrett shot the dog. It's rather obvious...
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "Ragtag" -- 5/06/14
Originally Posted by TGM
(Post 12100143)
I can't believe this is a debate. Garrett shot the dog. It's rather obvious...
Yes, he missed! |
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