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Old 10-19-15 | 11:15 AM
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Effie is clearly insane, or has been told to act that way.
Old 10-19-15 | 01:24 PM
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Regarding the issue between Effie and Jason and car flip scene ... doesn't the scene we saw with their conversation clearly show that Jason is right? Effie tells Jason that they're able to do the scene as he envisioned it (her exact words) by "stealing from Peter to pay Paul". Did she then go back and undo that because she didn't feel Jason gave her enough thanks (for doing her job)?

How many episodes is this? 10? Clearly the "manufactured" drama of the season is all about Effie (with and the rest of the cast/crew supporting characters).

The cast seems to be working well with Jason (and I'm sure if they had negative things to say, it would've made the tv show). Though Jason is portrayed as being entitled, tunnel-visioned and unrealistic regarding his "vision", I bet a lot of successful directors could be seen as having the same traits (especially if the worst moments were cherry-picked for a reality tv show).

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Old 10-19-15 | 01:29 PM
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I can't see anyone wanting to hire her after this.
They won't. Then she'll cry racism or something else stupid, and sue the show for ruining her career.

It's an 8 episode season so two more.

This has got to be a ridiculous cheap show for HBO, the budget of the movie being made is all of $3m?
Old 10-19-15 | 01:35 PM
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And I'm not sure running promos for the actual movie during PG is a good idea. I mean, everything turns out OK, right? No drama on if they finish it on time.
Old 10-19-15 | 04:04 PM
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I was glad to see that Bridget Regan is in the movie. I know of her from her recurring roles in White Collar, Agent Carter, and her small role in John Wick. She's gorgeous.
Old 10-19-15 | 04:09 PM
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She was so hot in John Wick. She definitely caught my attention. I didn't recognize her as the same person when watching Agent Carter, but she was good on that too.
Old 10-19-15 | 04:41 PM
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Effie is clearly insane, or has been told to act that way.
I doubt that anyone is behaving out of character for the sake of the show. After all, these people have real professions they have to go back to, and I doubt they'd willingly sabotage their future career for a minor TV show. Of course, Jason said on last night's episode that any thing you don't like about him is because of the editing.
Old 10-20-15 | 09:52 AM
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Her edit makes her way too antagonistic to be a good producer, imho a good producer needs to be hand in hand with the directors vision. She's all about the budget etc., doesn't seem at all like they are on the same page.

Who goes to see a movie based on what producer was involved? It's all about the directors vision and communication for that vision.

She can't be happy with the way she is coming across.

Great season so far....
Old 10-20-15 | 09:54 AM
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I think Effie is doing a fine job, just Jason doesn't want to hear anything she has to say and tries to avoid her all the time...which makes the situation worse.
Old 10-20-15 | 10:36 AM
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Yea. Clear case of communication avoidance.
Old 10-20-15 | 12:23 PM
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I am in the process of watching this and up to episode 3. Effie is one of the worst people i have ever seen on TV. Totally unprofessional, wants everything to be according her own pathetic agenda, not acting in the role of a Producer AT ALL....she is acting like a bean counter accountant. A Producer is supposed to help the director and guide them. If something is not feasible then they are supposed to either a). find a way to do it within restrictions or b) offer alternatives. She just shoots Jason down every time he brings up shooting on Film. I understand the reason why and the costs involved, but i am sure in a $3 million budget they could make this happen. The way she went off on Peter after he tried showing Jason the benefits of Digital just showed how fucking stupid she is. He was doing her a favor and she felt that he was stepping over the line. He was doing something really beneficial for her and she was too arrogant about boundaries and what not. Just idiotic. By the end of episode 2 i had gotten sick of hearing her say she has worked on 17 movies......yeah i checked them on IMDB.....utter shite. I truly hope this woman never works again as she is a cancer for any director or production with potential.

Oh, and Jason is not exactly fantastic either. He seems to be pretentious, and what is it with him always using English actors? He looks like a rich kid who has never had to work for anything and feels he can always get what he wants. The guy who did the Living with Jigsaw short should have won. That was awesome and i even liked his Speed dating video.

Update: Onto episode 6. Effie complaining about the lack of diversity in the crowd at the wedding scene. What a joke. Its supposed to be a wedding for a rich white family. I am positive that in reality there would be a great chance that the majority of [eople attending would be white. Also her saying she refuses to allow any minority actor portray a servant role is pathetic. Its unrealistic to imagine a world where an entire populace does not occupy certain roles, and if its got anything to do with the history of blacks in america then she needs to get rid of the fucking chip on her shoulder and get into the 21st century. She even says something about this movie being about rich white peoples problems, and she must hate that. She truly does anything she can to screw this production over.

And Jason is actually seeming more competent as the series is progressing. The two lead guys in the movie seem to actually be pretty piss funny though and its selling the movie better than anything else so far.

Update to Update: This woman is simply a lying ,manipulative bitch. She tells people what she chooses and then acts crazy when people call her out on not telling them things. How the hell did this woman ever get employed. Total scumbag of a woman. If i were Jason i would have called her out on her bullshit every time. She never likes people talking as well and always feels others are interrupting her. At least the crew generally seems to be on Jasons side.

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Old 10-20-15 | 08:06 PM
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I agree in general on Effie. She doesn't come across well. Some of that is surely editing. But a bunch of that seems to be her. And to add in that I don't believe anyone is really "playing up" to the cameras. That's true of many reality shows, but I highly doubt that's the scenario here.

Jason doesn't come off great either, but I can get where he's coming from. He seems to be a perfectionist and stubborn, but he also seems talented and competent. He might now always be easy to work with, but I think people would work with him in spite of some difficulties. Effie, on the other hand, doesn't seem worth the bother. That's the gist I get.
Old 10-21-15 | 07:33 AM
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People alway blame these things on the editing, and sure it can be manipulated to create a false picture. However, no amount of editing can change the words that come out of your mouth, the attitude you display and the actions you make. The phone call with Peter was a clear example of editing not distorting the picture. You could see she already had a problem with him and she took this as a great excuse to try and have a show of force. Peter seems pretty laid back, so she probably knew this and took an opportunity to try and chew him out. If she ever comes across an Alpha Male in a power position she would never have it so easy. Personally i think Peter made a mistake in backing off. He needed to get a team meeting and make an example of her in front of everyone. She is a cancer on any set and her attitude will only ever mean a problematic at best production.


As i said, Jason started off appearing quite prickish, but he has continued to show he might actually have talent and he seems to know what he is talking about. When he talks about removing the lens in digital Effie is completely lost and she even says she has no idea what he is talking about. But she treats it in a condescending fashion. Anyone with a passion for movies would be impressed by his knowledge, bit she is just in it for the business factor and couldn't give a shit. He is not following ner plan so no matter what he said would not convince her otherwise....even though he knows more about the film process than she does.
Old 10-26-15 | 12:34 AM
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I'm glad this episode was more focused on Jason as that's really what the show is supposed to be about, and I was growing tired of Project Effie. He certainly seems to have a better handle than his PG predecessors on what his vision for the movie is. I guess we'll see how he handles putting the movie together next week.
Old 10-26-15 | 12:43 AM
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I was commenting to my wife that Jason seems so much more competent than the other first time directors.
Bummer about the stunt but what can you do? They show it in the movie trailer and it looks okay there. Hearing Jason lament that it could have been so much better is kind of a dickish thing to complain about considering all he's been given, but as an artist, you can respect that's the way he feels.

Effie keeps acting like she is shocked that the director isn't falling to his knees to thank her, but she was there for her own agenda (admittedly an admirable one - showing a "diverse" crew working competently together) rather than participating because she believed in the project. I can respect that, but not if she keeps acting like this was the worst experience in the history of film making. I used to think that Jason had just ingratiated himself to the famous folks involved in the production like Matt, Ben and Pete, but really the actors and crew members who worked directly with him all seem to like and respect Jason.
I think Effie has made her feud way too personal.
Old 10-26-15 | 09:31 AM
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Just watched the trailer for it. Meh. Looks to be shot fine, but it looks like a story that been visited many times before.

Jason i think has talent and could become a half decent director, but he would need support and the ability to work as he sees fit. Also a decent script/story would help.

I am sorry but i have no respect for Effie and her bullshit agenda. Matt put it perfectly when he said the right person for the job is the right person for the job regardless of gender, skin color, ethnicity.....anything. This is exactly right. giving someone job simply because that ethnicity etc is not being represented is sure to doom any project. I laughed when she got all pissy about the role of the butler/driver being played by a black guy. These roles a lot of times are actually played by white guys (Batman movies, Trading Places, anything with snotty blue bloods). The only one that comes to mind with a black guy is the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. A black TV show had no qualms about putting a black actor in a subservient role. Actually surprised they didn't take the opportunity to put a white guy in that role thinking about it.

She takes everything as an affront and she is going to be hell to work with at any time. Looking at her IMDB listings is a joke in itself. Work on some major productions and then maybe your opinion might be worth something, but her resume is craptacular. Tyler Perry will probably all though.
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The unimpressive little car crash (after all that setup and debate) made me laugh. Though I wonder if that's usually the case on set ... things lot less impressive until you sweeten things things up with editing and sound effects.

Originally Posted by james2025a
Just watched the trailer for it. Meh. Looks to be shot fine, but it looks like a story that been visited many times before.
Yeah, though I'll watch it because I've been watching the series by itself the movie doesn't look particularly appealing.

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Matt put it perfectly when he said the right person for the job is the right person for the job regardless of gender, skin color, ethnicity.....anything. This is exactly right. giving someone job simply because that ethnicity etc is not being represented is sure to doom any project.
I laughed when we met the editor. Of course it's another black person. It's just undeniable that Effie has an agenda when hiring the staff for a movie besides getting the best people for the job. If you're in the movie business looking for a job and your skin color is white, don't even bother applying for something Effie is involved with. Unless, of course, it's for some subservient position like driver or janitor.
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I think Effie is doing a fine job, just Jason doesn't want to hear anything she has to say and tries to avoid her all the time...which makes the situation worse.
I'm up to ep 5, and there are a few times when Effie was extra (I think she could have been more diplomatic with Peter -- even if she felt slighted), but for the most part I think she's a great resource on the show, and it just seems like a shame that she and Jason aren't more simpatico.

They never seemed to be on the same page, which is a shame. For whatever reason Jason didn't seem receptive to her or her ideas, and she got frustrated with him being firm on the things he wanted. They were never a great match. Effie's job is to get the movie made and on budget, and Jason's job is to stay true to his vision, and there wasn't a lot of budging going on on either side.


It's been entertaining to watch though, I will say that.

It would be fascinating to see Jason work on his next project since he's getting a lot of concessions since he's on this show that I cannot fathom him getting on his next movie.

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Old 10-31-15 | 07:39 PM
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I laughed when we met the editor. Of course it's another black person. It's just undeniable that Effie has an agenda when hiring the staff for a movie besides getting the best people for the job. If you're in the movie business looking for a job and your skin color is white, don't even bother applying for something Effie is involved with. Unless, of course, it's for some subservient position like driver or janitor.
Agenda or no, nobody ever says "another white person" when watching these types of things.
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The Leisure Class premieres tonight, 11/2/15.
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The Leisure Class premieres tonight, 11/2/15.
And it's getting killed in the reviews. Looks like this Jason Mann guy isn't as much of a creative genius as we were led to believe.
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Can't say I find that at all surprising. The Leisure Class, in the context of PGL, looked very unremarkable. Granted we were only getting snippets, but there wasn't anything in the show that made me think I looked forward to seeing the movie.
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Re: Project Greenlight -- Season 4 Thread - returning to HBO -- 9/13/15

Effie Brown Breaks Down This Racially Charged Season Of “Project Greenlight” http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwiesel...5Y#.rwbDDlp5bO
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great season,

taping the movie tonight, hope i can make it thru it
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Effie Brown Breaks Down This Racially Charged Season Of “Project Greenlight” http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwiesel...5Y#.rwbDDlp5bO
Yeah I read that. I also read an interview with Jason. I guess you shouldn't be surprised at the stuff they embellished.

For instance, apparently Jason did pick a location that both he and Effie liked well in advance, but it fell through b/c of availability and then price so they were left scrambling right before production.


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