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Old 09-14-15 | 01:00 AM
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Damn, why did they pick that guy?? He was the definition of pretentious douche. I agreed with Peter Farrelly. I wish they would have picked Chris who made the Saw spoof.

I was laughing at all the requests he was making to Ben and Matt after he won. at shooting on film and a hiring a writer for a re-write. Ben looked annoyed.
Old 09-14-15 | 07:35 AM
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It's amazing how they continue to pick someone who may be the best choice "technically", but not the best choice for the film they are trying to make.
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Originally Posted by dex14
It's amazing how they continue to pick someone who may be the best choice "technically", but not the best choice for the film they are trying to make.
In the past they would have all sorts of reasons to justify it, but this season they aren't even trying. They all said he wasn't right for this film yet picked him anyway.
Old 09-14-15 | 10:53 AM
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As soon as he showed up and showed how difficult he could be in the interview, I knew they would pick him. Call me cynical, but he was chosen not just because of his talent, but because he and his ego will make for more dramatic television than if they had gone with someone who plays well with others.

That said, a broad comedy called "Not Another Pretty Woman" didn't really sound like a movie I'd want to watch, so maybe getting this guy to turn it into a different kind of movie will be a good thing.


My favorite moment was when that one hopeful director--tall, dark haired dude, born in Bosnia--came in and was really polite and friendly and spoke with a lot of heart about why he wants to be a director. And then right after he leaves Peter Farrelly quips, "I'm just going to say it--that guy is an asshole."
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That said, a broad comedy called "Not Another Pretty Woman" didn't really sound like a movie I'd want to watch, so maybe getting this guy to turn it into a different kind of movie will be a good thing.
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This is why it could benefit from being on HBO, instead of trying to make money in a theatre.
Old 09-14-15 | 02:50 PM
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Just watched this. I had forgotten who the teasers revealed as winning, but I guess I could've seen that coming

Originally Posted by DJariya
I was laughing at all the requests he was making to Ben and Matt after he won. at shooting on film and a hiring a writer for a re-write. Ben looked annoyed.
Not just hiring a writer ... firing the current one they had on the project, who was none other than the winner of the first Project Greenlight (and established collaborator with the Farrelly brothers)

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In the past they would have all sorts of reasons to justify it, but this season they aren't even trying. They all said he wasn't right for this film yet picked him anyway.
Originally Posted by Cellar Door
Call me cynical, but he was chosen not just because of his talent, but because he and his ego will make for more dramatic television than if they had gone with someone who plays well with others.
Sometimes cynical and correct are the same thing. Though I agree ... his version of the movie sounds like something I could find interesting (instead of a generic rom-com).

At least that line producer didn't get her way. Essentially saying talent didn't matter to her, but the director's sex and color of skin were the most important things

Originally Posted by dex14
This is why it could benefit from being on HBO, instead of trying to make money in a theatre.
And it's not like making money in theaters was something Project Greenlight movies were ever good at. The three previous movies combined grossed a little more than $1 million (with most of that coming from Feast, which made a lot more from home video).

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Old 09-14-15 | 03:25 PM
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Glad to see the director is getting stuck with a script of the studio's choosing...didn't prior versions have separate screenplay contests and/or the director also worked on the screenplay?
I'm commenting on my own post. The asshole director they chose (whom I honestly believe they picked not because of talent, but because he'll cause the most 'problems', thus making the show entertaining) doesn't have the job 60 seconds and he's asking for a new writer.
Old 09-14-15 | 03:33 PM
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The first PG had the winner both write and direct. The 2nd and 3rd had separate contests for writing and directing.
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Originally Posted by dex14
It's amazing how they continue to pick someone who may be the best choice "technically", but not the best choice for the film they are trying to make.
I think its clear that they are trying to find the best filmmaker. Rather than trying to make the best movie.
Old 09-16-15 | 08:07 AM
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After watching the chair on starz, he def could be the correct choice. Sounds like the screenplay is mediocre, so why bring in a director who will just make a cheesy snoozefest comedy. Take a flyer on an original guy, even if he is a jerk, it makes for good tv. And maybe he can have a strong POV and create a watchable film.
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I think its clear that they are trying to find the best filmmaker. Rather than trying to make the best movie.
I think it's clear they are trying to make the best TV show.
Old 09-16-15 | 05:15 PM
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No mention of Shia LaBeouf and the Battle of Shaker Heights in the opening?

I think Project Greenlight is responsible for discovering Shia before he did the Transformers movies and had a nice run of movies.
Old 09-16-15 | 07:20 PM
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Re: Project Greenlight -- Season 4 Thread - returning to HBO -- 9/13/15

Yeah, but it was after Holes, which was a moderate hit in theaters.
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Originally Posted by pjflyer
I think it's clear they are trying to make the best TV show.
If that was their sole concern they should have selected that couple that used to date but are now broken up and cant look each other in the face.
Old 09-16-15 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
I think Project Greenlight is responsible for discovering Shia before he did the Transformers movies and had a nice run of movies.
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Yeah, but it was after Holes, which was a moderate hit in theaters.
And before both of them was the Disney series "Even Stevens", which ran for 3 years and starred Shia.
Old 09-16-15 | 09:31 PM
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They were right, Chris' video was MUCH funnier than Jason's

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And they were also right that with the Speed Dating script, Jason's film works better than Chris'

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- and I think Chris made a HUGE mistake there by casting somebody who at least looks physically challenged in the lead. Maybe he's not and is just real short, but it feels like he wants you to laugh at a dwarf who's unable to get a date and that just feels wrong.
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And before both of them was the Disney series "Even Stevens", which ran for 3 years and starred Shia.
And for which he won an Emmy. So he was a fairly big deal before PG.
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I think Project Greenlight is responsible for discovering Shia before he did the Transformers movies and had a nice run of movies.
As others have said, he was known before PG. I specifically remember when he was cast thinking that they got a relatively known person for this.
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Re: Project Greenlight -- Season 4 Thread - returning to HBO -- 9/13/15

Some people were ticked off about what Matt Damon said on the premiere episode


On Sunday, Matt Damon became the poster child for Hollywood's lack of diversity after a tense exchange on HBO's Project Greenlight with the African American filmmaker Effie Brown.

On Wednesday, Damon apologized for his comments, saying in a statement that he was "sorry that they offended some people."

During the show, Damon appeared to disregard Brown's call for diversity on Project Greenlight, which offers filmmakers a chance to direct a $3 million feature film.

Brown advised a group of white film makers to be cautious of which director to select because "the only black person" in the film they're producing is "a hooker who gets hit by her white pimp," and suggested that a woman and an Asian man take on the script,

Damon interrupted and said, "When we're talking about diversity, you do it in the casting of the film, not in the casting of the show."

"I am sorry that they offended some people, but, at the very least, I am happy that they started a conversation about diversity in Hollywood," Damon said. "That is an ongoing conversation that we all should be having."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ogizes-n428591

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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
No mention of Shia LaBeouf and the Battle of Shaker Heights in the opening?

I think Project Greenlight is responsible for discovering Shia before he did the Transformers movies and had a nice run of movies.
One of my favorite moments on Project Greenlight Season 2 is when LaBeouf's people are explaining that he might need some time away from the project for his potential Oscar nomination for Holes.
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
Some people were ticked off about what Matt Damon said on the premiere episode




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ogizes-n428591
He was frank, but I was totally fine with what he said. His point was that they were tasked to find the best director for their project and that color shouldn't enter into their decision. He was right in that regard (besides the fact that she was arguing diversity on behalf of a Vietnamese immigrant who wasn't among anyone's top choices anyway).
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He was frank, but I was totally fine with what he said. His point was that they were tasked to find the best director for their project and that color shouldn't enter into their decision. He was right in that regard (besides the fact that she was arguing diversity on behalf of a Vietnamese immigrant who wasn't among anyone's top choices anyway).
Completely agree. Nothing about what he said was wrong or controversial.
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Just watched all the finalist shorts. Yeah, Chris's was by far the best. Didn't like Jason's that much, but the rest... oof. Not very good. For the speed dating scene, I thought they were pretty close to even between Chris and Jason. Just watching those two things that Jason did make me feel like he's a one-trick Fincher wannabe.
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Originally Posted by pjflyer
One of my favorite moments on Project Greenlight Season 2 is when LaBeouf's people are explaining that he might need some time away from the project for his potential Oscar nomination for Holes.
I remember that now! I was impressed they were able to get as decent a cast as they did for the first season too. Sure, no A listers. But for a low budget indie by a first time director and a pretty generic script, Aidan Quinn, Brian Dennehy, Bonnie Hunt, and Kevin Pollack wasn't too shabby. Though given that the aim of the series turned out to be to make the production seem as incompetent as possible, they may have regretted their decision.

I had to laugh at Pete Jones during the casting process. He's thinking he's going to get all these top stars in his movie, asking for scripts to be sent to A listers like Sean Penn. And Pete seemed genuinely shocked when told "Sean Penn passed on it".

Originally Posted by Decker
He was frank, but I was totally fine with what he said. His point was that they were tasked to find the best director for their project and that color shouldn't enter into their decision. He was right in that regard (besides the fact that she was arguing diversity on behalf of a Vietnamese immigrant who wasn't among anyone's top choices anyway).
Exactly how I saw it. It sounded like the woman was arguing for special consideration based on sex and race. It pisses me off when the PC Police get all over someone's shit for something like this, while there are plenty of real instances or racism and sexism out there. Damon shouldn't have to apologize for anything ... but I know PR calls for the carefully worded apology that he did issue.
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Re: Project Greenlight -- Season 4 Thread - returning to HBO -- 9/13/15

Damon was in the right completely - especially at THAT STAGE. If that was going to be a primary concern, it should have been addressed before the top 10 were selected.


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