How was this not the pilot? Did they dump it completely and start over? It has a total pilot vibe.

Season 3 of the Australian series begins Feb. 9, Richard Roxburgh is awesome!!

Based on an Australian TV series also with the same name. It was airing on Directv.

Sweet. I figured it was over after S2. Hope DTV continues airing it.

Doesn't even seem like they will air the pilot:

Kind of interesting, kind of boring. Sort of on the fence. I like Kinnear, so I'll give this a few more shots. I think the biggest problem is that this should've been a 30 minute show, not a full hour.

So they either dumped the pilot and this season will only be 12 episodes, or they just randomly air the pilot and hope no one notices.

Sounds like it will get the Firefly treatment. I thought the first episode was reasonably promising.

I was looking forward to this, but I thought the first episode was very painful. I hate this guy. Kinnear's constant babbling is very annoying.

I thought that it was okay. I'd probably watch it when I could, but it's not a show I would consider a must see. The bitchy assistant aggravated me.

I watched the first episode which was OK. I'm going to give it a bit more time on my DVR. Thanks to Rex, I grabbed the Season 1 DVD set of the original show and I'm making my way through that. I initially had no idea this was a remake. Now that I've seen (via DVD) the tone and progression of the original, it's obvious to me this remake will never live up to the original, which is a much more adult show. I suspect it would have been a much better show on pay TV. As it is, it feels like watching the airline version of an R-rated movie.

Definitely interested in catching the original as well. Don't think that it airs here in Canada, but if anyone knows for sure, let me know.

It airs at http://www.amazon.ca/Rake-Richard-Ro.../dp/B007W144RK

Yeah, in the original series, Roxburgh's Cleaver Greene is much more charming than Kinnear's Deane. In an odd way, Roxburgh's Cleaver Greene is kind of like Don Draper, while Kinnear's Deane is more like Pete Campbell.... at least as far as "likeability" goes.

Who are his brother and sister-in-law? Do you mean Ben and Scarlet (Red)? Because I thought they made it clear that Ben was his best friend from law school.

In the original series, his name is "Barney" and he's Greene's solicitor (the series is set in Sydney, which is in New South Wales, which is one of two Australian states that still has separate solicitors and barristers, like the UK's legal system: basically, Barney goes out and gets the clients, does the research, hires investigators, etc, while Greene does all the arguing in court).

In the original series (spoilered because it might impact the plot down the road):



For what it's worth (spoilered, contains speculation about previous spoilered content):



See, that's the thing. In the original, he mostly hurts himself, or maybe others who are equally as screwed up as he is. I found the scene with the kids mildly amusing, but not especially "funny".

Also, in the original, Greene gets around almost exclusively by taxi. I can't remember if we know why that is (I think he sold his car to pay off his bookies but don't know for sure if that was the case). I guess cars are so integral to Los Angeles culture that the writers felt they needed to set up why he no longer has a car.

[QUOTE=MScottM;11988776]Absent minded people are one thing and you can get some comedy out of them. Irresponsible people and people that care about no one but themselves ar

Last night it got a 1.3. I give it....2 weeks before it ends up on Fridays.

It's survived. I guess as an Olympics sacrificial lamb. Poor Michael Imperioli. Guest starring in the latest episode. His career has cratered.

It got a 1.0. Poor show.

The original is supposed to be coming to Netflix soon
http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/netf...rsion-of-rake/

Good to see that DTV will have S3.

Thanks for that, I bailed on this American version, but will check out the original

Watched the first episode and didn't realize anymore had aired. Guess my PVR missed them.

Moved to Fridays. Not a good sign.

DOA.

Original showed up on Netflix though, so I'll check it out when I get a chance.

I know that I've seen him in other things, but the only thing that I associated Roxburgh with is Moulin Rouge.

Catching up on some of these episodes and am enjoying it but I think that I missed some plot points. Did they show the kid taking the Sherlock pipe and I miss it?

I think they are showing things in the recaps that weren't actually in the previous eps.