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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
How was this not the pilot? Did they dump it completely and start over? It has a total pilot vibe.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by Rex Fenestrarum
(Post 11988396)
Given that the Australian original is one of my favorite shows of this century (after Mad Men and Breaking Bad), this remake was... actually better than I thought it would be. It still has way too much of the "sanitized for US broadcast TV" vibe, though. Given all the drinking, whoring and drug use in the original series, I think it'd fare much better on HBO or Showtime. And although I'm one of the 17 people in the US who actually likes Greg Kinnear, he just can't hold a candle to Richard Roxburgh's Cleaver Greene. I guess that's not a problem, since I've never met anyone else who's seen the original.
I have several thoughts about the pilot, but they might be spoilery, so I'll keep them to myself. |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by mphtrilogy
(Post 11989802)
What's the original.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by Sewso
(Post 11989984)
Season 3 of the Australian series begins Feb. 9, Richard Roxburgh is awesome!!
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by Gizmo
(Post 11989978)
How was this not the pilot? Did they dump it completely and start over? It has a total pilot vibe.
The early episodes will be aired out of order as the original pilot, written by Peter Duncan and directed by Sam Raimi, had "an overload of not drama ... but maybe a little sadness," according to producer Peter Tolan. He added, "[it] worked against the episode. And so we refigured it, sort of toning that down." The episode originally portrays Keegan Deane (Greg Kinnear) in an unhealthy mental and physical state |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Kind of interesting, kind of boring. Sort of on the fence. I like Kinnear, so I'll give this a few more shots. I think the biggest problem is that this should've been a 30 minute show, not a full hour.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
So they either dumped the pilot and this season will only be 12 episodes, or they just randomly air the pilot and hope no one notices.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Sounds like it will get the Firefly treatment. I thought the first episode was reasonably promising.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
I was looking forward to this, but I thought the first episode was very painful. I hate this guy. Kinnear's constant babbling is very annoying.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
I thought that it was okay. I'd probably watch it when I could, but it's not a show I would consider a must see. The bitchy assistant aggravated me.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
I watched the first episode which was OK. I'm going to give it a bit more time on my DVR. Thanks to Rex, I grabbed the Season 1 DVD set of the original show and I'm making my way through that. I initially had no idea this was a remake. Now that I've seen (via DVD) the tone and progression of the original, it's obvious to me this remake will never live up to the original, which is a much more adult show. I suspect it would have been a much better show on pay TV. As it is, it feels like watching the airline version of an R-rated movie.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Definitely interested in catching the original as well. Don't think that it airs here in Canada, but if anyone knows for sure, let me know.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by movieking
(Post 11994461)
Definitely interested in catching the original as well. Don't think that it airs here in Canada, but if anyone knows for sure, let me know.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by MScottM
(Post 11988776)
I watched the show and had fairly high expectations. I like Kinnear. But this show didn't work for me. If he is supposed to be a "lovable" anti-hero it didn't work. All i saw was an asshole.
Originally Posted by MScottM
(Post 11988776)
I find it truly hard to believe that his brother would put up with him and no way would his sister-in-law.
In the original series, his name is "Barney" and he's Greene's solicitor (the series is set in Sydney, which is in New South Wales, which is one of two Australian states that still has separate solicitors and barristers, like the UK's legal system: basically, Barney goes out and gets the clients, does the research, hires investigators, etc, while Greene does all the arguing in court). In the original series (spoilered because it might impact the plot down the road): Spoiler:
For what it's worth (spoilered, contains speculation about previous spoilered content): Spoiler:
Originally Posted by MScottM
(Post 11988776)
Was it supposed to be funny that he borrowed the car without a license? And that he had his niece and nephew and a couple of neighbor children taken into child protective services? And all he had to say about it was that the mother should have answered her phone?
Also, in the original, Greene gets around almost exclusively by taxi. I can't remember if we know why that is (I think he sold his car to pay off his bookies but don't know for sure if that was the case). I guess cars are so integral to Los Angeles culture that the writers felt they needed to set up why he no longer has a car. [QUOTE=MScottM;11988776]Absent minded people are one thing and you can get some comedy out of them. Irresponsible people and people that care about no one but themselves ar |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Last night it got a 1.3. I give it....2 weeks before it ends up on Fridays.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
It's survived. I guess as an Olympics sacrificial lamb. Poor Michael Imperioli. Guest starring in the latest episode. His career has cratered.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
It got a 1.0. Poor show.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
The original is supposed to be coming to Netflix soon
http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/netf...rsion-of-rake/ |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 12021268)
The original is supposed to be coming to Netflix soon
http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/netf...rsion-of-rake/ |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 12021268)
The original is supposed to be coming to Netflix soon
http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/netf...rsion-of-rake/ |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Watched the first episode and didn't realize anymore had aired. Guess my PVR missed them.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Moved to Fridays. Not a good sign.
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
DOA.
Original showed up on Netflix though, so I'll check it out when I get a chance. I know that I've seen him in other things, but the only thing that I associated Roxburgh with is Moulin Rouge. |
Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Catching up on some of these episodes and am enjoying it but I think that I missed some plot points. Did they show the kid taking the Sherlock pipe and I miss it?
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Re: Rake (FOX) Season 1 Thread - S: Greg Kinnear
Originally Posted by movieking
(Post 12060486)
Catching up on some of these episodes and am enjoying it but I think that I missed some plot points. Did they show the kid taking the Sherlock pipe and I miss it?
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