Re: The Walking Dead -- "Internment" -- 11/10/13
 

Enjoyed the episode, except for the the before mentioned "no plan for zombies" thing. Good action, although I didn't like that they weren't able to address Carol with Daryl yet and I also hated the Governor showing back up. I too, would love if they kill him off right away. Or a zombie just comes up and eats him and thats that.

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It's easy to say you'd be a heartless monster during the zombie apocalypse on the internet, but some people just aren't like that.

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I think that Lizzie's actions in this episode may give some credence to the thought that it was Lizzie who killed the two infected people.

As for Carl, I've always found him to be annoying. He has become increasingly annoying with each episode this season.

I found it interesting that Rick felt the need to immediately start gaining support for his decision to banish Carol. Moments after entering the prison he is telling Maggie about it and then asks her for her approval. I don't think he is as comfortable with his decision as he initially was.

I'm interested to find out Daryl's response to the news.

As for the appearance of the governor... yawn.

I think this season so far has been extremely good. The first season is still by far the best, but this season is a very close second.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Internment" -- 11/10/13
 

Really liked this ep. Lots of tension in the sick ward. Found myself wondering if they were actually going to kill off either Hershel or Glenn this week.

While a strange place to store weapons, the scene with Rick and Carl assault-rifling those zombies was pretty badass.

Don't really care about the governor coming back. Wish they had killed him last season. But I'm really interested in the Rick/Daryl conversation that will be happening soon. :thumbsup:

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"Heartless Monster?? Its called surviving. Are you saying that they haven't had to "put down" walkers in the past? Are you saying that you would think that a person that has died is still the same "person" that has now risen back up and is looking to kill you?

Its got nothing to do with being "heartless". I know this isn't real and that there is no possiblitly of anything like this ever happening but come on and get real here. A walker is nothing but animated flesh. It is the same no matter "who" the walker was before they died. If you have put down one of them then you shouldn't have a problem putting down any of them. And you certainly shouldn't be a part of a group if you are going to hazard all of their welfare by not being able to put down a walker that was a person you liked.

The closest equivalent I can call on in the real world would be a murderer. Someone says murdering people is wrong but then their wife/husband/child murders someone and oh boy its not so wrong anymore. Murdering is either always wrong or it is never wrong. Its got nothinhg to do with being heartless. I know people for the most part love their families but wrong is wrong. And understand I am talking about MURDER not killing.

And with putting down the walkers, its the same. If you can put down any of them, you shouldn't have a problem putting down all of them. Do you think it is killing a loved one? Do you think if the loved one was alive they would be saying "don't kill my corpse, let it eat you." You would be doing them a favor by ensuring that they are buried and not walking around hurting others.

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I don't think he was trying to gain support. But then again I don't think he banished her. He stated facts. She killed people, he didn't want her around anymore, he thought she would be killed if she came back. In my opinion he did exactly what he should have. Would it have been better if he said nothing or told them that she was killed on the run? What would you have him do? There weren't alot of options on exactly what he could do or say. I think the truth was the best way to go.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Internment" -- 11/10/13
 

For those that don't watch The Talking Dead, here's an interesting tidbit from the scene they showed from next week's episode:

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Herschel gave that guy the option of dealing with it. He's still on a moral path of shielding the ugliness of having to take care of those that turn. The guy was going to have to kill his zombie bro much the way they allowed Andrea to be the one to kill her sister when she turned. That shit went down probably distracted the guy enough and he didn't have the chance to take care of his bro.

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The other guys that went with him?

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That's how I saw it. He immediately asked Maggie what she would do. Given the dire situation that everyone is in with the infected on the verge of dying, the fact that Rick immediately fills Maggie in on what happened to Carol and asks her for her opinion is very telling. He was more concerned with Maggie's opinion than if Carl and Judith were still okay.

Rick banished Carol. It wasn't some persuasive argument. He wasn't concerned about Carol's safety... that was just a smokescreen. After Carol told Rick that she wasn't affraid of Tyreese, Rick flat out told Carol that if it were just her and he and the kids, he would force her to leave that he couldn't be with her. THAT is the point that she went grudgingly.

Here's a clip of that interchange...

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The first thing he asked about was Carl and Judith. Once he knew they were OK he moved on to the Carol talk.

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Thought it was a really exciting and tension filled episode. Hershel was the man in this episode. Surprised how much mobility he had running all over that area, up and down the stairs and fighting off the walkers.

:lol: at Rick and Carl putting up logs to hold up the fence against hundreds of walkers. Their assault against all the walkers was pretty badass.

So Hershel isn't sick I assume? I don't see any symptoms on him.

Looks like practically all of the new group of people who came to the prison at the end of season 3 is dead.

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ok, thanks for that... I must've spaced out while looking in on the "2nd screen experience" on my Surface RT. :D

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Maybe you and I don't agree on the term banishment. I just watched the clip again. He said, "they might have survived but you killed them. Tyrese will kill you when he finds out. I don't want (trust) you. If it was only up to me, I wouldn't have you around. You have a chance to live out there with others that don't know what you did. You will survive."

To me, banishment means, get out and don't come back or I will killl you. Nowhere did I see him say that or even imply it. He did state that Tyrese would kill her for what she did when he found out but not that he (Rick) would. There is also the problem that she has a car and knows where the prison is. Banishment only works if the person that is banished believes they will be punished for returning to the place there have been banished from, ususally by the person that banished them. Are you stating that Rick will use violence against her is she just shows up at the prison? I didn't get that from what he said.

I think he was just giving her a chance. There was no way that her killing the people would have stayed secret. Rick knew and in knowing she did it realised that he COULD NOT trust her ever again. But he didn't want to kill he so he gave her a chance at a new life with others that didn't know what she did. There is NOTHING that stops her from returning to the prison right now.

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Internment" -- 11/10/13
 

Does Rick know about Carol and Daryl? Does he know that he act of saving Carol from Tyrese is going to put him directly at odds with one of his own?

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The kids are still around.

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The pan out of the governor at the end seemed like an odd way to reintroduce the character. Weave him into the storyline somehow, don't just have a random ending shot with him in frame.

Everyone seems to be fairly annoyed with Carl, but I don't see it. He just seems eager to help his father and take on a bigger role.

I agree with others about the ill planning leading them into these unfortunate situations. It seems like they make deliberate poor choices so put themselves at risk. I prefer when the circumstances are less contrived.

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Yeah, you'd think one of the very first rules they would have established would be if anyone dies, you knife them in the head immediately. You don't wait around. They've already shown they can turn at any moment, and you have people casually wheeling them around on gurneys. And Hershal, God bless him, sees two feet sticking out of the cell but fails to notice the girl with her face melting onto the floor.

And the fence thing... again? Wasn't this already a big action set piece like, 2 episodes ago? Why do they continually let those things pile up like that? Why were they just getting around to reenforcing the fence with those logs?

I mean I get it, they are short handed because of the disease and deaths. But at least give them a sense of urgency. People are just walking around and sitting around talking like they have nothing to do. I mean, Carl just seems to be hanging out in a dark hallway somewhere. His father insists he stay there though, he needs him there. Not helping with the fence, or dealing with the zombie horde outside.

Not thrilled with the governor either. Way too soon, I agree. His character isn't even interesting anymore. They made him a fool and a buffoon last season, if a sadistic one, and now no one cares about him as a threat. Move on.

I'll let the rest of you go on about the rest.

The one good thing about this episode was Rick and Carl with machine guns mowing down all the walkers. Too bad the lead up to it was so contrived.

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Since the zombies' bodies are so "soft" on the inside, wouldn't they all just end up smooshing each other before the fence gave way?

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The director REALLY needs to STOP playing his friends' songs during the show. Three times this episode, they took me right out of the "moment" by having some fake emotive acoustic crap going on.

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Agreed. Songs really have no place in a program like The Walking Dead.

I figured they were sticking songs in because they want to sell soundtrack albums.

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That prison sure is a zombie magnet! They need to find a better way to disperse them because they build up.

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I wonder if Daryl will give Rick the tough guy closeup stare like he gave the other guy last week.

So, is Carol done with the show? Or is this just a storyline so she can redeem herself later in Rick's eyes?

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Thanks, Shane. ;)

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Everything they did with Carol indicates she will come back in the future, possibly saving the day. It wouldn't surprise me if the eventual plan is to make her the group's leader when they finally abandon the prison down the road.