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DJariya 10-20-13 12:10 PM

The Walking Dead -- "Infected" -- 10/20/13
 
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Synopsis:

As the group faces a brand new enemy, Rick and the others must fight to protect the livelihood they worked so hard to create at the prison.


Written by: Angela Kang
Directed by: Guy Ferland



Episode 2 of 16

DthRdrX 10-20-13 06:13 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Infected" -- 10/20/13
 
I've never seen so many different previews on AMC in a given week for a single episode. I have a feeling shit hits the fan tonight.

chowderhead 10-20-13 06:26 PM

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MTV is on crack if they think TWD will kill Darryl off this episode.

DthRdrX 10-20-13 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chowderhead (Post 11878614)
MTV is on crack if they think TWD will kill Darryl off this episode.

Yea, I just can't see them killing him now with the ratings they are getting. Very risky. That plus they sort of hinted at a ongoing storyline with Beth last week.

Keith6601 10-20-13 08:36 PM

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The only way Darryl dies if he gets a spinoff as a zombie just killing everyone taking over the world.

Gizmo 10-20-13 09:31 PM

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Tough crowd tonight, eh?

Dragon Tattoo 10-20-13 10:19 PM

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Those poor pigs.

covenant 10-20-13 10:22 PM

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Yeah, had a hard time with that part. My wife definitely didn't like it.

redrum 10-20-13 10:23 PM

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Pretty good episode even though it really didn't advance anything

fumanstan 10-20-13 10:43 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Infected" -- 10/20/13
 
Everything kind of happened as predicted from last week, the zombie pushing through the fence and cutting his face was pretty cool. Season is starting a little slow for me, but glad to see some fat trimmed with all the people in the prison.

The pigs was definitely sad and tough to watch.

sven 10-20-13 11:24 PM

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Why don't the stupid fuckers just go outside the gates and kill the zombies out there? It would be much faster and easier to take them out in open ground and it would take the stress off the fence. Rick's plan was just fucking stupid as was their plan at that store. They should be exterminating every one they see not just moving them around.

fumanstan 10-20-13 11:32 PM

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I also didn't get why they didn't have people killing zombies at the fence all day, what with all the adults they brought in that could do it. I know they were being attracted by the rats, but it really doesn't make sense that there were more then they could kill along the fence to me.

Draven 10-20-13 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sven (Post 11878852)
Why don't the stupid fuckers just go outside the gates and kill the zombies out there? It would be much faster and easier to take them out in open ground and it would take the stress off the fence. Rick's plan was just fucking stupid as was their plan at that store. They should be exterminating every one they see not just moving them around.

What? On the open ground you can easily get swarmed. At the fence the fucking kids can help if they have to.

And they are killing a lot of them. The problem is more are coming all the time and someone in the prison is drawing them to specific parts of the fence.

Not sure I get the "not much happened" critiques. Between the infection, Rick getting his gun out again, Tyrese losing his lady (to the "mole" in the prison), Carol basically getting her "kids" back, and a few other things, I'd say quite a bit happened.

RocShemp 10-20-13 11:57 PM

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Spoiler:
The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the preview for Tyrese in the next episode. I'm glad his balls will finally drop but dismayed that they're using the tired "I will the kill the person who killed my woman" plot device. That's almost as overused a plot device as amnesia.


Mod Note: Please put discussion of future episodes, including previews, in spoiler tags.

sven 10-21-13 12:02 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Infected" -- 10/20/13
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11878867)
What? On the open ground you can easily get swarmed. At the fence the fucking kids can help if they have to.

The walkers are so damned slow it would be pretty hard to get swarmed unless you are just completely and utterly inept physically. With that much open space it would be hard for 60 able bodied people to catch me. This would be more like trying to keep away from 60 extra stupid 4 year olds.


Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11878867)
And they are killing a lot of them. The problem is more are coming all the time and someone in the prison is drawing them to specific parts of the fence.

No the problem is their stupid fence method is way too slow. 6 people could have cleared out that entire bunch in an hour instead of standing there all day waiting for each one to stick it's face up to the fence only to kill 1/3 of the pack.

jacob_b 10-21-13 12:06 AM

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Oh my, totally forgot Carol had kids. Good point about that. And season, to me, is kind of picking up. It's only 2 episodes and Carl already has his gun back and the relationship with his father is repaired. Wondering what happened to Carol and Daryl though. Wonder who burned the bodies and feeding the zombies rats, though. And for everyone crying about the pigs last episode, well you got the answer. It was tough to watch as others have said, though.

45 people were in the prison at the start (thank you Talking Dead) and about 14 are dead.

Draven 10-21-13 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sven (Post 11878880)
It would be pretty hard to get swarmed unless you are just completely and utterly inept physically. With that much open space it would be hard for 60 able bodied people to catch me. This would be more like trying to keep away from 60 extra stupid 4 year olds.

A location where they will line up and stand there when you jab them in the head versus running around a field trying to clear them out before one comes up behind you? Good luck with your method.



No the problem is their stupid fence method is way too slow. 6 people could have cleared out that entire bunch in an hour instead standing there all day waiting for each one to stick it's face up to the fence.
I believe the point is that they DO clear them out, and then a bunch more come back to the same location.

This is not a great example but I did a "zombie run" 5K a few years back and one of the things we did was run across a wide open field where about 50 "zombies" were trying to catch us. We didn't all make it across without getting tagged and it was extremely tiring trying to constantly dodge everyone. But hey, have fun running all over a field for an afternoon.

ddrknghtrtns 10-21-13 12:17 AM

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Did anybody else catch next weeks preview at the end of Talking Dead?

Jeremy517 10-21-13 12:25 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Infected" -- 10/20/13
 

Originally Posted by sven (Post 11878880)
No the problem is their stupid fence method is way too slow. 6 people could have cleared out that entire bunch in an hour instead of standing there all day waiting for each one to stick it's face up to the fence only to kill 1/3 of the pack.

The fence method would easily be enough, but it is failing on the show in order to manufacture some drama. A small group of people could easily kill enough walkers to keep things in order. Whether or not another method might be better is irrelevant, because the writers want you to ignore the fact that in reality, it would be really easy to keep the fences from being overburdened.

dave94 10-21-13 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ddrknghtrtns (Post 11878888)
Did anybody else catch next weeks preview at the end of Talking Dead?

Hell yeah, can't wait to see where they go with it.

Mr. Salty 10-21-13 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11878867)
Not sure I get the "not much happened" critiques.

I agree. A lot happened in this episode to set up various characters for the rest of the season. The only way you'd think nothing happened is if you weren't paying attention.
  • Carol is being secretive and manipulative, and taking an extra-aggressive stance to protecting the people in the prison. This isn't going to end well.
  • Tyrese has been given a reason to take a more active role.
  • We now know Michonne had a baby.
  • The little girl (Lizzy?) is being set up as a sociopath. She was more concerned with the death of the walker, Nick, than her own father.
  • Someone inside the prison is drawing the walkers to the fence by feeding them.
  • We're reminded that there were plenty of things in the world that killed people before modern advances in medicine. Now that things like clean drinking water are a thing of the past, those old diseases have returned as a threat on top of the zombie apocalypse.
  • Rick has to go into a cell full of infected children and kill them, which leads to him strapping on his gun again and giving Carl his gun back. I'd say his post-Lori pacifism is over with.

That's off the top of my head.

andicus 10-21-13 12:42 AM

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My nitpick for the episode is why the hell would Rick use gas to start his fire? And to top it off, they show the piles of hay in the background. What an idiotic waste of a resource.

boredsilly 10-21-13 12:53 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Infected" -- 10/20/13
 
Yeah, don't get the "not much happened" complaint either. I found this episode to be pretty dense.


Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11878895)
The fence method would easily be enough, but it is failing on the show in order to manufacture some drama. A small group of people could easily kill enough walkers to keep things in order. Whether or not another method might be better is irrelevant, because the writers want you to ignore the fact that in reality, it would be really easy to keep the fences from being overburdened.

Yup. I'm cool as long as the characters don't do things that are completely asinine, and I don't think they have this season. Also, it is easy to talk about how it would be fine to go out in the field to take out some zombies from the comfort of your lazy boy (I'm guilty of this too, not judging), but I think if in this actual situation the idea of staying safe behind the fence would be preferred. The only nitpick I would give the fence scenario is that the patrol could be bigger. There are a lot of people in the prison, so you could have more people working the fence. That would spread the zombies out a bit as well. But I fully admit this is nitpicking.

boredsilly 10-21-13 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by andicus (Post 11878902)
My nitpick for the episode is why the hell would Rick use gas to start his fire? And to top it off, they show the piles of hay in the background. What an idiotic waste of a resource.

Didn't even think about this, but good point. But it seems like the crew doesn't cherish resources like they once did. I'm not sure how the water rationing works, but the one woman got some water just to splash on her face.

Did the show establish that they have a replenishable fresh water source or something? Not that it really matters, I'm just curious. Also, I would be hella nervous about drinking from a fresh water stream because you never know what's dead in it upstream. Everything would get boiled if that option was there.

Dragon Tattoo 10-21-13 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sven (Post 11878852)
Why don't the stupid fuckers just go outside the gates and kill the zombies out there? It would be much faster and easier to take them out in open ground and it would take the stress off the fence. Rick's plan was just fucking stupid as was their plan at that store. They should be exterminating every one they see not just moving them around.

Please tell me you're joking. What you just suggested is too stupid for words. :lol:

"Hey yeah, why don't they just go get swarmed by zombies instead of stabbing them through a fence!?"

Axeramm 10-21-13 01:15 AM

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I assumed the girl that named the zombies was the one feeding them. I thought she was treating it like a pet but I am probably wrong.

musick 10-21-13 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by redrum (Post 11878796)
Pretty good episode even though it really didn't advance anything

this would be a great post in any episode from last season

I've soured on this show but this was the one episode in forever where I actually felt stuff happened

johnnysd 10-21-13 01:22 AM

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I think I am out. I really didn't find anything enjoyable this episode really. This one tipped past my gore threshold. I don't see the need really it was gratuitous gore-porn in my view. Coupled with the fact that I really don't like many of the characters much and am really tired of the prison setting, and the fact I did not find anything interesting or enjoyable about this episode I don't see me watching again.

superdeluxe 10-21-13 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 11878922)
I think I am out. I really didn't find anything enjoyable this episode really. This one tipped past my gore threshold. I don't see the need really it was gratuitous gore-porn in my view. Coupled with the fact that I really don't like many of the characters much and am really tired of the prison setting, and the fact I did not find anything interesting or enjoyable about this episode I don't see me watching again.



:wave:

JZ1276 10-21-13 03:16 AM

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This is the 1st season of Walking Dead I am watching weekly. I finished seasons 1-3 in between this season and the last in a couple of weeks. This is def another show that is much more enjoyable marathon viewing.

Baron Of Hell 10-21-13 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11878895)
The fence method would easily be enough, but it is failing on the show in order to manufacture some drama. A small group of people could easily kill enough walkers to keep things in order. Whether or not another method might be better is irrelevant, because the writers want you to ignore the fact that in reality, it would be really easy to keep the fences from being overburdened.

This is pretty much true. One person could easily kill 10 zombies a hour without trying very hard. One person could remove 100 zombies per day by standing in the same spot with a hammer. 10 people could remove 1000 zombies per day with little effort. There shouldn't be any zombies at the fence with 40 plus adults.

I don't hate them for it but they could have thought of something better.

Jackskeleton 10-21-13 05:42 AM

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Shit, why can't they make those spiked up road blocks that they did for the front gate and just put them, one by one, all along the gate exterior as another form of prevention form just letting a group of zombies put too much pressure on a small portion of gate?

TGM 10-21-13 06:07 AM

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There is no job more important than zombie control, so why they don't have people taking shifts around the clock just to kill the zombies pushing up on the fence? dumb.

Fist of Doom 10-21-13 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TGM (Post 11878973)
There is no job more important than zombie control, so why they don't have people taking shifts around the clock just to kill the zombies pushing up on the fence? dumb.

Yep. It's not like there's a lot of stuff to entertain themselves, anyway. The nonchalant attitude to the zombies weakening the fences was ridiculous.

Common-sense problems aside, I really liked this episode. I think they're fleshing out these characters better than prior seasons did. And the makeup dept. continues to do to top-notch work.

Rob V 10-21-13 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeramm (Post 11878918)
I assumed the girl that named the zombies was the one feeding them. I thought she was treating it like a pet but I am probably wrong.

I think you're on to something there.

Krayzie 10-21-13 06:43 AM

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Did Tyrese's girl die from being sick or was she killed by someone? I was assuming that she died from being sick and they burned the body but the preview made it seem like someone just straight up killed the two sick people.

chowderhead 10-21-13 06:53 AM

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There was a blood trail from the cell to where Tyrese found the bodies. Looks like she was killed and dragged to the spot.

darkdaze73 10-21-13 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy517 (Post 11878895)
The fence method would easily be enough, but it is failing on the show in order to manufacture some drama. A small group of people could easily kill enough walkers to keep things in order. Whether or not another method might be better is irrelevant, because the writers want you to ignore the fact that in reality, it would be really easy to keep the fences from being overburdened.


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell (Post 11878959)
This is pretty much true. One person could easily kill 10 zombies a hour without trying very hard. One person could remove 100 zombies per day by standing in the same spot with a hammer. 10 people could remove 1000 zombies per day with little effort. There shouldn't be any zombies at the fence with 40 plus adults.

I don't hate them for it but they could have thought of something better.

My take on things are that each person has a job to do. Obviously we do not see or know what other choirs others are handling each day. They have mentioned needing such and such to help at the fence that day.

It would make more sense to add more people to the fence since there seems to be more and more zombies showing up every day. But I think the writers are trying to emphasize the amount of zombies coming each day.

I have no issues with this episode as I feel it was perfectly fine. The zombies were not much of an issue last season, but they have changed that from the get go this season. Add in the problem of a possible deadly flu outbreak and a person working against the group. The season is being set of with plenty of issues along with the eventual return of the governor.

Shannon Nutt 10-21-13 07:39 AM

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Since I don't believe anyone's brought it up in the thread yet:

I'm pretty sure Maggie's days are now numbered. Glenn takes a photo of her sleeping that - I'm guessing - he'll be staring at and crying over when Maggie is offed at some point during the season. Of course, that's good news for Herschel and Beth, since they'll probably be sticking around. :)

TheMadMonk 10-21-13 07:45 AM

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They should have a truck rigged up with a plow or something to go out and run over zombies when they get too concentrated in one area. It might not kill them, but would certainly break legs/arms. Zombies that are limited to crawling around on the ground won't put pressure on the fences, and can be finished off whenever there is downtime.


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